Lee Harvey Oswald, Lone Shooter or One of Several?

[renz20003]

If he was the lone shooter he was one heck of a shot, and fast too.

Do you think he acted alone and if not was it the soviets or our own government?

We will never know all the facts but what are your thoughts?

 

[Ns1]

Waffles

 

[IronWing]

Waffles

No, just one magic waffle.

 

[IHateMyJob2004]

Mythbusters proved that he could have been a lone shooter in terms of shooting from the location he was claimed to be and he could have gotten the rounds off fast enough.

But let's be real. There were atleast 2 shooters. I think Oswald was one and a second was near the grassy knoll behind the fence. Sorry, but momentum move your head to the left because a bullet entered on the right. "Back and the left" does not occur because you were shot in the head from behind. Granted god know what would happen to muscles when your body suffers a massive shock on its nervous system.

 

[brianmanahan]

i opened this thread, searched for "grassy knoll" without reading anything - and was pleasantly surprised

and we even have a "back... and to the left"! THIS THREAD IS PUSHING ALL THE RIGHT BUTTONS

 

[Jeeebus]

Shoulder herpes

 

[IHateMyJob2004]

To expand on my previous post.

The US government wanted to get the country as calm as possible as quickly as possible. Even if they knew 100% that there was a second shooter. They had someone pretty damned fast. They let the public know that their government had things under control and that everyone is safe. Stating that there was a second shooter could have resulted in a political nightmare that would only get worse if they could never find the second shooter. So there is a very real reason that the government wrapped things up so fast.

 

[brianmanahan]

To expand on my previous post.

The US government wanted to get the country as calm as possible as quickly as possible. Even if they knew 100% that there was a second shooter. They had someone pretty damned fast. They let the public know that their government had things under control and that everyone is safe. Stating that there was a second shooter could have resulted in a political nightmare that would only get worse if they could never find the second shooter. So there is a very real reason that the government wrapped things up so fast.

aren't they supposed to make secrets unclassified after 50 years?

we should have heard about it back in 2013

 

[renz20003]

aren't they supposed to make secrets unclassified after 50 years?

we should have heard about it back in 2013

Supposedly but with a topic as popular and controversial as the JFK assassination they will never reveal all that they know.

 

[SKORPI0]

JFK Assassination Zapruder Stabilized Motion Panorama HD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sqk3sdfXFkc D:

Spoiler

Someone convince me that the head shot wasn't from the grassy knoll.

 

[sandorski]

It was Obama

 

[Craig234]

Having looked at this issue for decades, I think the evidence strongly suggests:

1. There were massive motives for people with the means to conspire to assassinate Kennedy: the mob, the CIA, and LBJ.

2. However, Oswald was a 'lone nut' who acted alone. He'd wanted to kill a right-wing figure, former General Walker, for a year, and then the motorcade showed up.

The best book: "The assassination of John F. Kennedy: The reasons why", Albert Newman

 

[Craig234]

CIA book: "JFK's War with the National Security Establishment: Why Kennedy Was Assassinated", Douglas Horne, $3 small e-book on Amazon

 

[Printer Bandit]

This guy said he did it. Pretty convincing if you can watch it all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qr4vgHsmNEk

 

[blankslate]

This explains it all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ytv15ono5J0

Roll the film... and it's a shot of the Kennedy assassination from an angle you've never seen before... that looks suspiciously off the grassy knoll... and then the screen goes up and they go to the new President... "Got any Questions?"

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[renz20003]

JFK Assassination Zapruder Stabilized Motion Panorama HD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sqk3sdfXFkc D:

Someone convince me that the head shot wasn't from the grassy knoll.

Theses photos support the shots coming from behind and not from the knoll. Sorry I can't make a link in advance.

http://www.celebritymorgue.com/jfk/jfk-autopsy.html

 

[SSSnail]

Shoulder herpes

Yep, as determined in my other thread, definitely shoulder herpes. Goog thing I didn't contact it, seems very fatal. D:

 

[Brian Stirling]

I've suspected a conspiracy since I read parts of the Warren Commission report back in the late 60's when I was about 12 years old. Then, when we were permitted to view the Zapruder Film and saw the direction of JFK's head after the hit I was even more convinced it came from the front.

Then, sometime in the 80's I read about the analysis done by Luis Alvarez and although I still felt the head shot came from the front I couldn't completely rule out the head movement as being the result of the jet effect. Testing of my own with an AR-15 riffle and jugs of water, not a perfect analogue of a human head I know but a good approximation, and seeing that many of the jugs move towards the shooter convinced me the jet effect is real and may explain his head movement.

In 1993 I traveled to Dallas for the 30th anniversary and it was while there that I came to accept that there are way too many conspiracy types out there. I ran into many dozens of guys with cardboard props and displays that were hawking there pet theories and by the time I left I had come to the conclusion that: I will never know the full truth, that the truth is probably out there but buried within a wall of bullshit, that Oswald may have done it all by himself, and to repeat ... I will never know the full truth!

A frame by frame analysis of the Z film indicates that his head moves forward a bit in the frame before you see the head shot and some interpret this to be the momentum transfer from a rear shot which is then overwhelmed by the jet effect that causes his head to move rearwards. Others believe that the head shot is actually two shots that hit within a single frame of film. I just don't know...

Finally, in the aftermath of 911 it's painfully obvious that there are a shit ton of conspiracy nuts. And sadly, if there had been a conspiracy to kill JFK the conspiracy nuts have so utterly confused the facts to the point where it's hard to know up from down let alone who was involved.

But, I've not completely given up on the idea that there was a conspiracy and the fact that young Oswald was in fact in the company of a guy like David Ferrie and his connection with Guy Bannister does in my view suggest that Oswald was very likely involved with some nasty folks and that some of the conspiracy theories on this subject may in fact be true.

http://www.isgp.nl/miscellaneous/de...iter_David_Ferrie_Oswald_Civil_Air_Patrol.jpg

But, sadly, I do not expect to ever know for sure...


Brian

 

[Rudee]

Such an original topic of discussion.

 

[OutHouse]

Oswald got 2 shots off but the secret service agent accidentally shot him in the head with the third shot due to all the excitement from the first two shots.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2945784/

 

[ImpulsE69]

It was Osama's weapons of mass destruction. What they never told you is one of them was a time machine. Go back and kill JFK to ruin America.

The best take on it still has to be this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6naJ08Tskk

 

[Craig234]

I try to offer info to threads like this but hate the idiots who come and post garbage in them.

Brian, if you want to feel you have a clearer idea, read the book I recommended above.

It leaves little doubt as you get to know Oswald.

 

[disappoint]

So there is a very real reason that the government wrapped things up so fast.

They were afraid of unwanted pregnancies if they kept screwing us with their antics so they wrapped that rascal?

Oswald fired the shots alone, but was influenced by others to do it.

 

[Craig234]

Oswald fired the shots alone, but was influenced by others to do it.

The only known influence on Oswald to murder was his own reading and listening to communist materials and likely Radio Havana.

Oswald visited the Cuban and Russian embassies in Mexico City, but he'd already long had the desire to kill Walker, and it was before there was any idea of the JFK motorcade.

Oswald had contacts such as George de Mohrenschildt, but all the evidence points away from them being any murderous influence.

 

[OutHouse]

the hole in the back of kennedys head was 6mm, Oswalds rifle fired a 6.5mm round. and the trajectory of kennedys headshot does not compute a high angle shot that would have come from oswalds perch. not only that but there were many witnesses including SS agents who reported the smell of gunpower on the street. no way could that have been oswalds gunpowder he was up in a building behind them and upwind. however they were behind and downwind of the the SS car.