Leave it to the LAPD to beat an immigrant protestor!

[J0hnny]

http://panasonicyouth.buzznet.com/user/video/play/13967/

The video isn't really too clear but it looks like what they're saying it is. Can anyone confirm this?

Note: I'm not putting it into P&N because I'm discussing the video quality. nvm...

 

[Specop 007]

Always smart to disregard the police.
Even smarter, if they chase you away you should ALWAYS go back and taunt them.

 

[Meuge]

I don't know - I see the cops being pelted with various objects, and I see the crowd acting very aggressively. Frankly, if I got hit with something hard, I'd probably punch back too.

People are all-too-quick to judge in these cases, and its hypocritical, since few of us have faced an angry crowd. For all we know, this guy punched the cop in the balls when they tried to cuff him.

 

[Steeplerot]

More of the same LAPD, I did not see anyone throwing stuff until the fascists started beating on people and charged in.
Good for them, hopefully something hard landed and those cops think next time about how they do their job before they provoke another riot.

Probably not though, we have to pay for their helmets to beat the crap out of people in street clothes.

 

[jrenz]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
More of the same LAPD, I did not see anyone throwing stuff until the fascists started beating on people and charged in.
Good for them, hopefully something hard landed and those cops think next time about how they do their job before they provoke another riot.

Probably not though, we have to pay for their helmets to beat the crap out of people in street clothes.

Haha..."fascists".... you kids are funny these days.

 

[Starbuck1975]

More of the same LAPD, I did not see anyone throwing stuff until the fascists started beating on people and charged in. Good for them, hopefully something hard landed and those cops think next time about how they do their job before they provoke another riot.
Probably not though, we have to pay for their helmets to beat the crap out of people in street clothes.

Perhaps you missed the part where in several areas around LA and Santa Ana last night, roaming groups of Hispanic men were engaging in vandalism, among other acts of stupidity. In every instance, the police deployed fairly quickly to break-up these groups of thugs before things got out of hand, and in every instance the police were attacked while trying to protect communities, motorists, businesses and peaceful protestors from harm.

These weren't protestors...we saw the protestors demonstrated peacefully all day...a few punks and thugs decided to engage in violent behavior after the sun went down, detracting from the whole message of the day, and got their heads beat in by the police...I say, good for the LAPD.

 

[Steeplerot]

Until it is your head being beaten in labeled a criminal, you all are so whipped.

Lay off the COPS tv shows. :roll:

Police join the force to powertrip just like politicians, why is it that over the past 15-20 years or so everyone suddenly does not question cops but still bash politicians for being corrupt?

Guess what? Cops are just as bad, who police the police in your town?

I bet noone does, they are above the law, and you all are all over them like heros.

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: Starbuck1975

More of the same LAPD, I did not see anyone throwing stuff until the fascists started beating on people and charged in. Good for them, hopefully something hard landed and those cops think next time about how they do their job before they provoke another riot.
Probably not though, we have to pay for their helmets to beat the crap out of people in street clothes.

Perhaps you missed the part where in several areas around LA and Santa Ana last night, roaming groups of Hispanic men were engaging in vandalism, among other acts of stupidity. In every instance, the police deployed fairly quickly to break-up these groups of thugs before things got out of hand, and in every instance the police were attacked while trying to protect communities, motorists, businesses and peaceful protestors from harm.

These weren't protestors...we saw the protestors demonstrated peacefully all day...a few punks and thugs decided to engage in violent behavior after the sun went down, detracting from the whole message of the day, and got their heads beat in by the police...I say, good for the LAPD.

He wouldn't care.. he thinks they have the right to do most anything they want and for their acts to go unpunished.. They are, afterall, being held down by Whitey.

 

[GalvanizedYankee]

TY OP :thumbsup:

Having lived in SoCal most all my life, I say send'em all back. Even the Poles in NYC and the Irish in Boston.

The 13th, 14th & 15th Amendments to our Constitution were enacted at the end of our Civil War. IIRC, the 14th declares to be born here is to be a citizen. In the 50s they were called squat n' drops. Mexican women would jump the boarder just to have a USA anchor baby. Pregnant women are flying in just to have thier children here. This has got to change.

After Ronald Ray-Guns pushed amnesty through in 86' this right of birth to foreign Nationals should have been declared null&void. Does this Country need a slave based work force in the year 2006. I don't think so.

False documentation can be had here for $300~$500 easy. Most hospitals have closed the ERs because of the over load of unpaying unarmed invaders.

Mexico would be better off today if we had just taken thier whole corrupt Country back in 1848. END RANT Feel better now


...Galvanized

 

[Steeplerot]

Yeah, If squat and drop generalizations were good for klansmen in the 50s they are great for todays bigots to label people today too. :thumbsup:

Good to see the token "they are stealin our gubbernments taxmoney!" and the obligatory "I don't care if it is the irish too." then getting right back on track bashing mexicans, you got it down good it seems.

This place is turning into stormfront more ever day with the immigration issue.

 

[GalvanizedYankee]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Yeah, If squat and drop generalizations were good for klansmen in the 50s they are great for todays bigots to label people today too. :thumbsup:

Good to see the token "they are stealin our gubbernments taxmoney!" and the obligatory "I don't care if it is the irish too." then getting right back on track bashing mexicans, you got it down good it seems.

Yep, sure do. I'm Polish, not even a little bit racist and have fully recovered from liberal guilt (Google it). The race card means nothing to me.

The Mexican asshat truck drivers crash a rig coming out of our harbor, jump the fence, flee the the accident, get new docs and are driving again in a weeks time. I won't start on the public primary & secondary schools.

...Galvanized

 

[CaptnKirk]

If you tell the cops that you are a Pinata, expect them to treat you like a Pinata . . .

 

[Meuge]

Originally posted by: GalvanizedYankee
TY OP :thumbsup:

Having lived in SoCal most all my life, I say send'em all back. Even the Poles in NYC and the Irish in Boston.

The 13th, 14th & 15th Amendments to our Constitution were enacted at the end of our Civil War. IIRC, the 14th declares to be born here is to be a citizen. In the 50s they were called squat n' drops. Mexican women would jump the boarder just to have a USA anchor baby. Pregnant women are flying in just to have thier children here. This has got to change.

After Ronald Ray-Guns pushed amnesty through in 86' this right of birth to foreign Nationals should have been declared null&void. Does this Country need a slave based work force in the year 2006. I don't think so.

False documentation can be had here for $300~$500 easy. Most hospitals have closed the ERs because of the over load of unpaying unarmed invaders.

I love the size of your brush... it's just large enough to paint everyone the same color.

 

[OutHouse]

the cops should have just yanked as many protestors who are illegal off the streets as they could. send them all back.


Lets start a boycott of all mexican vacation spots/cruises until the Mexican government does something on their end to stop the flood of illegals.

 

[piasabird]

I just dont get a bunch of people demonstrating that could be deported if caught and questioned. The sad fact is there is less enforcement under the Bush Presidency than under the Clinton Presidency of immigration law. This is part of a trend of just ignoring the problem on behalf of both Republicans and Democrats in Congress as well as Federal Agencies.

i.e. the US Government caused its own problems!

I am glad I do not live in a border state. Even 20 years ago Texas was populated with an awful lot of Mexican Immigrants.

If you are not going to deport them, then tax them at a higher rate.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
More of the same LAPD, I did not see anyone throwing stuff until the fascists started beating on people and charged in.
Good for them, hopefully something hard landed and those cops think next time about how they do their job before they provoke another riot.

Probably not though, we have to pay for their helmets to beat the crap out of people in street clothes.

Your ignorance says far more than your words. I live in L.A., and this morning, I saw extended footage of the same incident. The crowd was definitely throwing objects that the local reporter described as "rocks and bottles."

For the most part, these protest actions, both in L.A. and across the nation, were pretty peaceful. This isolated incident was anything but peaceful. If the reports are correct, the police were justified in their actions.

I'm about as much a liberal as anyone on the forums, but I disagree with giving amnesty and citizenship to illegal immigrants. The first requirement of citizenship is a commitment to obeying the laws of the country and respect for the rights of others. The first things they did were to trespass into the country and cut in line ahead of those awaiting legal immigration.

Beyond that, there's a simple matter of security. The first step in problem solving is to define the problem. If we don't first stop the flood of illegal immigrants at the border and get a handle on those already in the country, we'll never have control of our population again. That's contrary to any conceivable concept of sane governance to provide for the common good.

 

[Steeplerot]

So if the law is the determining factor over citizenship then why should someone prosecuted for speeding as an example not be exiled born here or not?

We have all bent a rule or two to make do, the illegal arguement is missing the point of the matter. Or more like a big distraction from it.

 

[Meuge]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
So if the law is the determining factor over citizenship then why should someone prosecuted for speeding as an example not be exiled born here or not?

We have all bent a rule or two to make do, the illegal arguement is missing the point of the matter. Or more like a big distraction from it.

I see that you're as much of a troll in terms of domestic issues, as the foreign ones.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: jrenz

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
More of the same LAPD, I did not see anyone throwing stuff until the fascists started beating on people and charged in.
Good for them, hopefully something hard landed and those cops think next time about how they do their job before they provoke another riot.

Probably not though, we have to pay for their helmets to beat the crap out of people in street clothes.

Haha..."fascists".... you kids are funny these days.

Didnt you hear? Anybody you dont agree with is a fascist when they are upholding the rule of law!

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Didnt you hear? Anybody you dont agree with is a fascist when they are upholding the rule of law!

Cops do not and do not have to follow the rule of law, they are above that.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: Genx87

Didnt you hear? Anybody you dont agree with is a fascist when they are upholding the rule of law!

Cops do not and do not have to follow the rule of law, they are above that.

How can somebody argue with such a fine example of rational thought?

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
So if the law is the determining factor over citizenship then why should someone prosecuted for speeding as an example not be exiled born here or not?

We have all bent a rule or two to make do, the illegal arguement is missing the point of the matter.

I've heard it said that there are no stupid questions. You just disproved that. :roll:

First, illegal immigrants are human beings, and they have every right to respect, compassion and humane treatment. They are NOT American citizens, and they have no right to claim the rights, privileges and freedom granted to American citizens under the U.S. Constitution.

Second, your example of speeding is a traffic infraction. Trespassing is a crime. Illegal immigrants have no more right to break and enter across the nation's borders than a burglar has to enter your home. Regardless of whether they steal anything, simply entering your private property, or your country, without your permission is wrong.

Third, every illegal immigrant is cutting ahead of every immigrant who showed the respect for our laws and our nation by following the immigration laws to get here. How can we ask them and others who would take the legal path into the country to step aside and wait while we grant any form of amnesty or other reward to those who ignored and disrespected those same laws?

If the laws need fixing, we have a process for doing that. If we abandon those laws when it becomes socially inconvenient, we may as well discard all the laws.

Come to think of it, Bush has already done that with far too much of the U.S. Constitution. What an example! :|

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: Genx87

Didnt you hear? Anybody you dont agree with is a fascist when they are upholding the rule of law!

Cops do not and do not have to follow the rule of law, they are above that.

How can somebody argue with such a fine example of rational thought?

Like I said cops and politicians = both power trippers. Only difference is politicians get slammed still as they have to uphold a shred of accountability to us. (kinda)

Your love of authoritarism will come back to bite us all in the ass, of course the corporate media and their lackeys make heros out of cops, they are the only thing that protects them from being held accountable as the real criminals running the show.

 

[Zebo]

I could'nt be a cop I would just shoot them if they threw something at me. One bottle to the temple/head and you could be dead so to me that's assault with a deadly weapon and justifies full and unequivical protection to preserve my life.

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: Zebo
I could'nt be a cop I would just shoot them if they threw something at me. One bottle to the temple/head and you could be dead so to me that's assault with a deadly weapon and justifies full and unequivical protection to preserve my life.

There is a point when it is not self defense, cops love this analogy as they will always overlook the fact that they are given a free ticket to provoke whatever they want and the consequences are out of their hands.

Cops love to insitgate riots, What could be more boring then to be heavily armed with an attitude and noone to beat on.And it makes them look like they are getting something done = more money for riot gear, air conditioned cops cars, doughnuts, hookers, etc.