Leaked documents show what Uber drivers (in Houston) make per hour...UPDATE new info.

[Svnla]

Not as much as you think.

Anyone here is working as Uber/Lyft/etc. driver?

http://www.chron.com/news/houston-t...ts-show-exactly-what-Uber-drivers-8320925.php


New links -

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...how-much-uber-drivers-actually-make-per-hour/

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/how-much-d...suggest-pay-barely-meets-minimum-wage-1567896

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[Sonikku]

You could do worse than 10.75 an hour after expenses for a low skill job. I feel for those making 7.25 before expenses that could see basically half their pay check go to just getting to and keeping said job.

 

[Imp]

Do those expenses include proper insurance?

 

[Jimzz]

There's a reason taxis take you the long way or say the CC machine is broke. Make as much as you can per person and try to keep as much of that under the table. Lyft/Uber/etc... makes sure you take the fastest route and all income is recorded.

 

[Eug]

Not as much as you think.

Anyone here is working as Uber/Lyft/etc. driver?

http://www.chron.com/news/houston-t...ts-show-exactly-what-Uber-drivers-8320925.php

Actually, that's pretty much what I thought they made. We'll maybe more than $8.77, but $10-15 US per hour seems about right.

It's no surprise that Uber drivers often don't want to pay for proper insurance.

 

[DrPizza]

There are no Uber drivers in my area. Heck, there are no cabs in my area either.

However, do people tip Uber drivers? And, does that pay include the tips? I suspect people do get tips, and 99% of them don't claim the tips.

 

[88keys]

There are no Uber drivers in my area. Heck, there are no cabs in my area either.

However, do people tip Uber drivers? And, does that pay include the tips? I suspect people do get tips, and 99% of them don't claim the tips.

Not if they have any sense.

 

[jpiniero]

Do those expenses include proper insurance?

Of course not. Driving for a Rideshare in general is pretty much a bad idea, and they can only really get away with it because the economy is so mediocre. And you know that they will get dumped in favor of self-driving cars if the tech actually progresses that far.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

There are no Uber drivers in my area. Heck, there are no cabs in my area either.

However, do people tip Uber drivers? And, does that pay include the tips? I suspect people do get tips, and 99% of them don't claim the tips.

Tips are handled through the Uber app. No cash exchanges hands with Uber.

 

[manly]

Of course not. Driving for a Rideshare in general is pretty much a bad idea, and they can only really get away with it because the economy is so mediocre. And you know that they will get dumped in favor of self-driving cars if the tech actually progresses that far.

Your assertion that their business model is predicated on a poor economy sounds like total conjecture. If anything, Uber does well in urban areas that are experiencing a tech boom.

The self-driving tech will get there, that's the easy part. But what's the business imperative? Right now, Uber pays serf wages to a large pool of willing contractors. Self-driving cars will ultimately be safer than human drivers, so insurance rates could potentially be somewhat lower. However, Uber would have to own/lease/maintain a fleet of rapidly depreciating assets on its books. That would crush the company's enterprise value.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Wow seems like it's not even worth being a driver, when you could make more money working a minimum wage job, and not put wear and tear on your car. Not to mention gas etc...

I don't imagine we have any ride sharing programs here, I always just call a cab when I need one, never really had a complaint about the cab service here.

 

[Imp]

Your assertion that their business model is predicated on a poor economy sounds like total conjecture. If anything, Uber does well in urban areas that are experiencing a tech boom.

I agree. Their business model is clearly based on taking advantage of people who don't bother to keep track of revenue, expenses, and taxes.

 

[Ns1]

Tips are handled through the Uber app. No cash exchanges hands with Uber.

No this isn't true. Uber used to bill themselves as "tip included" but they were sued because tips aren't included. Now they have an ambiguous policy on tips (meaning they can't say tips are included, but don't really encourage you to tip either). There is still no tipping mechanism within the app but no smart driver will say no to cash tips. There are even some Uber drivers with square readers.

 

[StrangerGuy]

Wow seems like it's not even worth being a driver, when you could make more money working a minimum wage job, and not put wear and tear on your car. Not to mention gas etc...

I don't imagine we have any ride sharing programs here, I always just call a cab when I need one, never really had a complaint about the cab service here.

Not to mention insurance, risk of getting mugged in the process and no usual employment benefits to speak of. Then again suckers who are clueless about basic finance can be found everywhere.

 

[jpiniero]

The self-driving tech will get there, that's the easy part. But what's the business imperative? Right now, Uber pays serf wages to a large pool of willing contractors.

Google basically. Seems pretty likely that's why they are developing their SDC tech, to build a taxi service that they would then datamine to hell. Even serf wages might be too much to compete with Google.

 

[Imp]

Not to mention insurance, risk of getting mugged in the process and no usual employment benefits to speak of. Then again suckers who are clueless about basic finance can be found everywhere.

Check out the other recent Uber thread a page or so back. Guy who drove for them had to deal with barfors and urinators.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

There are no Uber drivers in my area. Heck, there are no cabs in my area either.

However, do people tip Uber drivers? And, does that pay include the tips? I suspect people do get tips, and 99% of them don't claim the tips.

Its built into the uber rate but I'd say you should tip a dollar or two up to a few dollars.

Ducks head

 

[Ns1]

Its built into the uber rate but I'd say you should tip a dollar or two up to a few dollars.

Ducks head

At $1/mile less 25% fees, the only thing built into the rate is a slow building sense of resentment.

 

[Red Squirrel]

The problem with tips that are built into a service is that they probably end up having to pay tax on it, on top of the tax they already have to pay on the normal rate they get paid at.

I always try to tip services, even regular cabs, with cash to ensure they don't end up having to pay tax on the tip. Though it depends on the situation, like if I order a pizza on credit card I may not have cash on me to pay a tip so I pay with machine Not sure what the laws are, maybe they do get to keep the whole tip but cash guarantees it.

 

[KMFJD]

The problem with tips that are built into a service is that they probably end up having to pay tax on it, on top of the tax they already have to pay on the normal rate they get paid at.

I always try to tip services, even regular cabs, with cash to ensure they don't end up having to pay tax on the tip. Though it depends on the situation, like if I order a pizza on credit card I may not have cash on me to pay a tip so I pay with machine Not sure what the laws are, maybe they do get to keep the whole tip but cash guarantees it.

Why shouldn't they have to pay tax on their earnings like the rest of us....

 

[leper84]

Net or Gross? Isn't Uber 1099?

If so that sucks. You could make more money flipping burgers.

 

[purbeast0]

one of the benefits and reasons to use uber is because you don't have to deal with tipping. i've only used it 3 times but i never once tipped nor will i ever. the beauty of it is that there are no transactions done at all between the driver and rider.

i always assumed uber was not a full time gig and was a part time gig for all drivers that do it. i didn't expect them to be making much anyways. not sure why this is "news" to people that they don't make very much money.

 

[BUTCH1]

Not enough $$ IMO to account for the wear and tear on your vehicle and then you get drunk people, drunk people who hurl in your back seat and I'd imagine assholes bugging you to drive way over the speed limit. The vid on OP link did say that the city of Houston wants UBER drivers to go through a background check and it kinda does make sense.

 

[Imp]

Net or Gross? Isn't Uber 1099?

If so that sucks. You could make more money flipping burgers.

Ah, but you have to be hired by someone to flip burgers.

With Uber, I don't believe there is as much scrutiny or competition at the "membership" level -- you'll compete with the other thousands of drivers for scraps on the road.

 

[Charmonium]

Tips are handled through the Uber app. No cash exchanges hands with Uber.

No this isn't true. Uber used to bill themselves as "tip included" but they were sued because tips aren't included. Now they have an ambiguous policy on tips (meaning they can't say tips are included, but don't really encourage you to tip either). There is still no tipping mechanism within the app but no smart driver will say no to cash tips. There are even some Uber drivers with square readers.

The problem with tips that are built into a service is that they probably end up having to pay tax on it, on top of the tax they already have to pay on the normal rate they get paid at.

I always try to tip services, even regular cabs, with cash to ensure they don't end up having to pay tax on the tip. Though it depends on the situation, like if I order a pizza on credit card I may not have cash on me to pay a tip so I pay with machine Not sure what the laws are, maybe they do get to keep the whole tip but cash guarantees it.

That's what I do. I always tip in cash but then I also tend to pay my bill in cash too. I don't want anyone scanning my credit cards if I can avoid it.