LeadTek GeForce4 Ti4400 FRIED -- Suggestions?

[BMW330ci]

I built my new Pentium 4 system today and inserted all the components on an Asus P4S533. It booted up fine the first time but I turned it off because it wouldn't recognize my hard drive during the BIOS boot sequence I double checked and re-inserted the cables.
I unplugged one of the 2 fans on the LeadTek GeForce 4 Ti4400 to minimize noise. I turn on my PC again and black screen -- no beeps, just black screen. I tried re-inserting the videocard multiple times. It was originally connected via DVI so then I connected it via VGA and I saw strange colorful artifacts. Installed the GeForce 4 on another computer and the same thing happened -- color artifacts.

Did I fry my videocard just by unplugging one of the fans on its heatsink? Leadtek GeForce 4 owners: Have you unplugged one of the fans before?

Thanks for any suggestions.

 

[pillage2001]

Man, the fans were on the HS for a reason. Cahnces are, you blew it.

 

[BMW330ci]

<< Man, the fans were on the HS for a reason. Cahnces are, you blew it. >>



I actually read on a thread here that owners of the Leadk GF4 have disconnected one of the two fans on the heat sink and has worked fine. I guess I wasn't too lucky. =(

 

[CubicZirconia]

Well, at least you seem to be taking the loss well. I'd become depressed for a couple of months.

 

[PizzaDude]

I'd agree with cubic, I'd be pissed. You don't seem mad.

 

[BMW330ci]

<< I'd agree with cubic, I'd be pissed. You don't seem mad. >>



LOL..well I'm going to RMA it back to Essential Computers. I've installed a GeForce2MX from a Dell to use for now until I receive a new GeForce 4 Ti4400. But, I was frustrated at first.

 

[jaeger66]

That's ethical. You broke it because you don't know what the hell you're doing and they pay for it.

 

[Actaeon]

Uh Oh, I've seen this happen. This is usually a bunch of flames.

"I broke my Part, But I'm going to get it replaced."

"You broke it, and they are paying for it!"


I don't like the sign of this.

 

[5150Joker]

I don't think he broke the card. It shouldn't have died on him by disconnecting one of the fans. All other geforce cards run fine without 2 fans, this one shouldn't be an exception--unless of course he disconnected the one that cools the gpu. Either way, if he RMA's the company will just recycle the card.

 

[Metalloid]

Now before this gets out of hand lets think about it. He didnt for sure break it by unplugging the fan. Like he said many people have done it before and it worked fine. The fair and best thing to do would be to call Leadtek, tell them the whole story, and ask them what they think happened.

 

[BMW330ci]

<< That's ethical. You broke it because you don't know what the hell you're doing and they pay for it. >>



This has nothing to do with ethics. Who would have thought disconnecting one of the two fans would malfunction the card? Besides, like I said earlier, I've asked one of the owners of the Ti4400 if disconnecting one of the two fans was safe before I actually owned the card--- said he has disconnected one of the fans to elimininate some of the noise.

Besides, why do you think they offer RMAs?

Idiot--show some consideration before you sound like a smart ass.

 

[BMW330ci]

<< Now before this gets out of hand lets think about it. He didnt for sure break it by unplugging the fan. Like he said many people have done it before and it worked fine. The fair and best thing to do would be to call Leadtek, tell them the whole story, and ask them what they think happened. >>



That's the next step on the next business day - to contact Leadtek with some more insight. Seems to be a really fragile card.

 

[jaeger66]

<< This has nothing to do with ethics. Who would have thought disconnecting one of the two fans would malfunction the card? >>


Gee, anyone who's ever touched a GF4 at operating temp? They're on there for a reason.


<< Besides, like I said earlier, I've asked one of the owners of the Ti4400 if disconnecting one of the two fans was safe
before I actually owned the card--- said he has disconnected one of the fans to elimininate some of the noise. >>


First, why didn't you just buy a card with 1 fan? Second, you should really know that no two chips are the same.


<< Besides, why do you think they offer RMAs? >>


For defective products, not ones you destroyed.


<< Idiot--show some consideration before you sound like a smart ass. >>


No. It's fools like you that make getting a legitimate RMA more painful than applying for a mortgage.

 

[GrumpyMan]

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<< Now before this gets out of hand lets think about it. He didnt for sure break it by unplugging the fan. Like he said many people have done it before and it worked fine. The fair and best thing to do would be to call Leadtek, tell them the whole story, and ask them what they think happened. >>

That's the next step on the next business day - to contact Leadtek with some more insight. Seems to be a really fragile card. >>




The Athlons must be fragile too, after all if you unplug the fan it burns up in 3 seconds. Must be a product defect or something.

 

[HowDoesItWork]

I'm not sure Leadtek will let you RMA something that you messed with. I mean you disconnected one of the cooling fans. Ok, ok, somebody else claims to have done the same thing, fine. But to me that is like seeing a motor oil commercial on TV were they drain the oil and keep running the engine. You try it at home and then ask BMW when they are sending your replacement car since the engine blew? I don't think so.

What bothers me about it (and probably Jaeger66 as well), is that people OC, tinker, and otherwise destroy parts from doing something they KNEW was not what the supplier intended. Then they just return it, claiming it was broken when they got it (which is lying, btw). This makes it more of a hassle for the rest of us, by driving up costs for one thing.

If you are going to call up Leadtek (or whoever) and tell them you disconnected a fan and they let you return it, then cool. If you are leaving that part of the story out, then you are a liar.

 

[Demonicon]

<< Did I fry my videocard just by unplugging one of the fans on its heatsink? Leadtek GeForce 4 owners: Have you unplugged one of the fans before? >>



Q#1:

Q#2:Fry your card and then ask if it's ok to unplug one of the fans. Brilliant



<< LOL..well I'm going to RMA it back to Essential Computers. I've installed a GeForce2MX from a Dell to use for now until I receive a new GeForce 4 Ti4400. But, I was frustrated at first. >>



You're serious?

Q and A time:
Q:Why do companies put fans on their video cards when they could just not put any and save noise.
A:HEAT

Fans are not put on to create noise, they're put on to keep hot processors and chips from burning up.

Old addage:If others told you to jump off a bridge, would you?

 

[BMW330ci]

[/i] >>



<< Gee, anyone who's ever touched a GF4 at operating temp? They're on there for a reason >>



Quite obvious. Not to mention it never even passed the BIOS sequence. One of the fans should have been sufficient to cool the GPU.



<< First, why didn't you just buy a card with 1 fan? Second, you should really know that no two chips are the same. >>



The Leadtek had the best priced when compared to the Gainward



<< For defective products, not ones you destroyed. >>



I had no intentions to destroy this card.



<< No. It's fools like you that make getting a legitimate RMA more painful than applying for a mortgage >>




It's @ssholes like you who come onboard to blast and criticize rather use online-discussions for its sole purpose. If you don't have anything subjective to say, don't say it at all.

 

[BMW330ci]

<< I'm not sure Leadtek will let you RMA something that you messed with. I mean you disconnected one of the cooling fans. Ok, ok, somebody else claims to have done the same thing, fine. But to me that is like seeing a motor oil commercial on TV were they drain the oil and keep running the engine. You try it at home and then ask BMW when they are sending your replacement car since the engine blew? I don't think so.

What bothers me about it (and probably Jaeger66 as well), is that people OC, tinker, and otherwise destroy parts from doing something they KNEW was not what the supplier intended. Then they just return it, claiming it was broken when they got it (which is lying, btw). This makes it more of a hassle for the rest of us, by driving up costs for one thing.

If you are going to call up Leadtek (or whoever) and tell them you disconnected a fan and they let you return it, then cool. If you are leaving that part of the story out, then you are a liar. >>



I know what being dishonest is and I intend to be completely honest. If they RMA it, good. If they don't RMA it, then fine.

 

[BMW330ci]

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<< Did I fry my videocard just by unplugging one of the fans on its heatsink? Leadtek GeForce 4 owners: Have you unplugged one of the fans before? >>



Q#1:

Q#2:Fry your card and then ask if it's ok to unplug one of the fans. Brilliant



<< LOL..well I'm going to RMA it back to Essential Computers. I've installed a GeForce2MX from a Dell to use for now until I receive a new GeForce 4 Ti4400. But, I was frustrated at first. >>



You're serious?

Q and A time:
Q:Why do companies put fans on their video cards when they could just not put any and save noise.
A:HEAT

Fans are not put on to create noise, they're put on to keep hot processors and chips from burning up.

Old addage:If others told you to jump off a bridge, would you? >>




Brilliant response. Re-read what it says; you even quote what I said. I didn't ask if it was OK. I wanted to make certain LeadTek users were able to run their cards successfully with just one fan oppose to 2.

Like I've said earlier, it should have been sufficient to run with just 1 fan. The 2 fans onboard perhaps implies for overclocking, right? It's given that fans are to cool the processors, stop restating the obvious.

 

[upwardspiral]

wow. there are a bunch of anal pricks on here. he was just asking a question, not for ethical advice on how to lead his life.

relax kids, nothings worth this much stress.

 

[Instagib]

there on there for regular use. I would just RMA it. I wouldn't say you unplugged one of the fans.

 

[jaeger66]

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Brilliant response. Re-read what it says; you even quote what I said. I didn't ask if it was OK.

Like I've said earlier, it should have been sufficient to run with just 1 fan. The 2 fans onboard perhaps implies for overclocking, right?
>>


This is getting sad. If the Leadtek engineers thought it could be cooled with 1 fan, there would be 1 fan. You voided the warranty, damaged
the card, and want someone else to clean up the mess.

 

[BMW330ci]

<<

<<

Brilliant response. Re-read what it says; you even quote what I said. I didn't ask if it was OK.

Like I've said earlier, it should have been sufficient to run with just 1 fan. The 2 fans onboard perhaps implies for overclocking, right?
>>


This is getting sad. If the Leadtek engineers thought it could be cooled with 1 fan, there would be 1 fan. You voided the warranty, damaged
the card, and want someone else to clean up the mess. >>



This is getting ridiculous--the Leadtek engineers thought it could be cooled with 1 fan, there would be 1 fan? Let me put it in a statement instead of a question: The 2 fans onboard implies for overclocking. I don't even want to say anything further.
There you go again, concluding your pathetic point. Read my other responses and think whether I'm asking for someone to clean up my mess. If they RMA it, good. If they don't RMA, fine. I'm going to be completely honest with the situation.

 

[Ganryu]

If you can afford to drive a BMW 330ci then you can afford to just suck it up and buy another graphics card. Or you can be dishonest and RMA it, but you probably shouldn't tell them about disconnecting the fan if you want them to give you a new one.

 

[Barrei]

You guys really jumped on BMW330 , he was merely stating his problem not looking to be shot down, as far as being ethical, who ever said buisness was ethical, you merely have to look at the stock market scandals to see that alot of companies are anything but ethical, and what about all the computer hardware makers who put out garbage products knowing there substandard but will tell you they are quality products when they know they aren't.