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LCD vs. CRT, is there really a good reason to spend the extra money?

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bgc99

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I see I can get a KDS 19" CRT for about $68 AR. Is there a compelling reason to get an LCD instead? I've never had any first hand experience with an LCD monitor, either one for a desktop or one on a laptop.

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BGC
 
lcds are small and cooler. crt are dying, techwise. id give it a few more years before crts comletely dissapear. NEW GOOD LCDs will give great, but not up to a top of the line CRT pic quality and the "ghosting" effect is signifigantly reduced if you buy the lowest rates, 8ms ,12ms,or 16ms are probably acceptable. Just stay away from 8bit color or 25ms lcds and they will be a good monitor with a light, modern, space saving design.
 
Cheap CRTs are not worth the money IMHO, a good CRT is. A good CRT and LCD have, albeit different strength and weaknesses, very similiar picture quality. LCD's are nice but still cost to much IMHO, so if you want to save money and don't mind the extra size of a CRT buy a good of those.
 
Isn't another advantge of LCD the DVI input, which provides better quality picture? Or do CRTs come with DVI also?
 
Originally posted by: Navid
Isn't another advantge of LCD the DVI input, which provides better quality picture? Or do CRTs come with DVI also?
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dvi on lcds do not give it an advantage over vga on crt. the reason why dvi is a better choice for lcds is because lcds are digital. using a vga connector means it would have to convert the analog signal back to a digital signal. if you used dvi, there is not conversion needed, thus producing better picture quality.
 
Originally posted by: mwmorph
lcds are small and cooler. crt are dying, techwise. id give it a few more years before crts comletely dissapear. NEW GOOD LCDs will give great, but not up to a top of the line CRT pic quality and the "ghosting" effect is signifigantly reduced if you buy the lowest rates, 8ms ,12ms,or 16ms are probably acceptable. Just stay away from 8bit color or 25ms lcds and they will be a good monitor with a light, modern, space saving design.
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You mean stay away from 6-bit colour. LCD's are classified as "6-bit" or "8-bit" because these are the per-channel ratings. So, a 6-bit LCD is 6 bits for Red, 6 for green and 6 for blue, giving 18 bits total on-screen (2^18 = 262,144 colours). An 8-bit panel displays 24 bits total, which is 16.7 Million colours.

I agree on the response times though - 25ms is bad, 16ms is acceptable, 12ms or below is great.
 
if you have the space, for sure get a CRT- LCDs are just 1/10th the size depending on what size you get. when you look into CRTs remember to get a perfectly flat screen(pretty standard now) and they're measured differently than LCDs a 19" crt is about the size of a 17" LCD
 
1) LCD's use less power... save on your bill. The backlight can be replaced more cheaply than replacing a freakin' CRT tube.
2) More stable display... as you open windows and stuff... your CRT is compensating
3) Brighter, Crisper... no burn-in
4) Flatter
5) Thinner, Lighter, Sexier
6) No degausing needed
7) Usually have multiple inputs for multiple PC's
I am sure there's more..lol

Jeff
 
Originally posted by: jiffylube1024

You mean stay away from 6-bit colour. LCD's are classified as "6-bit" or "8-bit" because these are the per-channel ratings. So, a 6-bit LCD is 6 bits for Red, 6 for green and 6 for blue, giving 18 bits total on-screen (2^18 = 262,144 colours). An 8-bit panel displays 24 bits total, which is 16.7 Million colours.

I agree on the response times though - 25ms is bad, 16ms is acceptable, 12ms or below is great.
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oops, my bad. yeah. always buy 8 bit, cause personally, i like seeing the other 90% of the color spectrum.

also how come no one has mentioned Native Resolution? it is basically the number of liquid crystals in the display. for examlpe, a monitior with a native resolution of 1280x1024, it means it only has 1280 horizontal pixels and 1024 vertical pixels, switching to say, 1024x768, screws up the geometry of the screen cause the 1280 pixels are trying to look like only 1024 and the 1024 pixels are trying to look only like 768. CRTs dont have this problem cause they use electron guns, when youre shooting electrons toward a screen, you can imitate any number almost perfectly. it's comparable to how a widescreen tv tries to transform a 4:3 normal television image to 16:9. things look ok, but not quite right.

my personal opinion is lcd for average comps like my family pc and CRTs for my gaming rigs and cad/graphics design rig because no lcd can topple the image quality of a top of the line CRT.
 
If you need desk space(such as I) then the LCD is an awesome option, that is why I'm saving up for it, although comtemplating whether to get the LCD b4 the GPU or vice versa. Also a 16ms LCD and down will basically give CRT a run for its money especially with DVI as long as you don't want the highest possible res. which is only capable on certain expensive LCDs, most CRTs at cheaper can give you that. Overall, go for LCD if you can afford, prices are dropping and its very affordable now.
 
The man has $64 dollars. Why even debate? He only have one choice. He must buy that crappy $64 KDS (Korean Data System) CRT monitor.
 
It really varries from person to person. I've played games on a 25ms panel (Doom 3, Half Life 2, KOTOR) and they look fine to me. I've seen games on 40ms panels and the ghosting is pretty bad.

For me at least 25ms or better is fine.

Originally posted by: jiffylube1024
I agree on the response times though - 25ms is bad, 16ms is acceptable, 12ms or below is great.
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nah, for me, im extra sensitive to ghosting(im the sorta person that cant stand 60hz either). it sorta disorients me so playing even on a 16ms panel UT2K4 is just a bad exprience. I ONLY use CRTs for gaming. LCDs are fine for other general work.
 
I have yet to see an LCD I would buy. Saw one of those Dell ones the 2000 whatever they are, at work, bleh. Was not impressive in the least! The only LCD I have seen that I would own that I have seen is a TV, especially I saw this 15" one that my uncle bought for his kitchen. I'd buy that and use it as a TV.

IMO, space and weight savings are the only benefits I see to an LCD. Owners will say otherwise but wouldn't you if you just spent 300-600 bucks on something? No ghosting is acceptable and personally I don't like looking out a screen door that well. DOOT DOOT DOOT LOOKING OUT MY SCREEN DOOR!

Don't get KDS, they are terrible. JUNK! Get a NEC or Viewsonic unless you have to go that cheap.
 
Yeah, I'd probably avoid KDS (along with Mag and some other budget brands). I think Samsungs are supposed to be pretty good, and they're only a bit more money:

17" $100AR + tax ($130 shipped via PriceGrabber, also in "ivory")
19" $200 + tax (PriceGrabber shows it for $200 shipped, and also in ivory)

Edit: Ah, the KDS is 19". Well, if it looks good to you, you may as well buy it, as you won't beat that price for a new CRT. And even if it only lasts three years, it's still a bargain. But I'd try to see one in person, to ensure the image is good. No point in ruining your eyes with a blurry monitor to save a few bucks.
 
ive had my Viewsonic A90f for about 4 years already and i am going to stick with it until it dies out. all the lcd's i have seen have hirrible ghosting on games and they are still expensive. i really dont mind the extra space and GOOD lcd's are still outta my pricerange. i say let the guy buy the pos KDS and he will have to live with it. if some one is spending $60 on a monitor, the have to know that they wont get quality
 
The man has $64 dollars. Why even debate? He only have one choice. He must buy that crappy $64 KDS (Korean Data System) CRT monitor
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That was just an example, didn't say that was all I could afford. LOL The CRT vs. LCD was the point. Anyway, as another poster said you won't be able to buy a CRT before long. My town is pretty small, my only real choices for buying a monitor locally are a smallish Best Buy or Office Depot. I think Best Buy has about 20 different monitors on display, 2 or 3 of which are CRT.

I might buy an LCD online but I am extremely hesitant to buy a CRT online. Seems to me rough handling would be more likely to affect a CRT. When I say rough I mean the normal handling you would expect from any of the freight companies. (fedexupsdhletc).

BGC
 
Originally posted by: imverygifted
if you have the space, for sure get a CRT- LCDs are just 1/10th the size depending on what size you get. when you look into CRTs remember to get a perfectly flat screen(pretty standard now) and they're measured differently than LCDs a 19" crt is about the size of a 17" LCD
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While I kinda agree..

I have the space, and had a 21" Sony e540 which is a pretty good monitor.

After using my 20.1 Dell I think i'm in love.

Go here to check it out..

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I bought my 19-inch Viewsonic P95f+ online with zero problems. Still going strong after a couple of years. I would always buy a monitor online rather than from a place like BestBuy, because they charge way too much. Why should I pay more just so I can have ten guys in BestBuy shirts come up to me and say "Can I help you, sir?"
 
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