LCD recommendations

[The Green Bean]

I'm in Pakistan and these are some of the choices I have:

http://www.iamextreme.net/product.php?ProductId=253
http://www.shophive.com/shophive/ViewSonic-VX2753mh-p-10664.pakistan.html
http://www.shophive.com/shophive/Samsung-S24A350-p-9945.pakistan.html
http://galaxy.pk/form025.html
http://www.vmart.pk/lcd-monitors-pakistan/

I don't have a budget but I don't want to be overspending on Apple displays. I'm leaning towards the Dell Ultrasharp for $300 but it lacks an HDMI connection. Is there anyway to overcome this by using a convertor? I'm going to connect by DVI but want to have the option of using the monitor as an external display for my Macbook Air. The Dell is the only IPS display I can find.

It's mostly for general everyday use and gaming. I'm currently using a 22" with a 1680 resolution but it's dying so I'm looking for a replacement. I don't mind either 1920x1080 or 1200. Does either resolution have an advantage over the other besides the obvious pixels?

 

[ViRGE]

I'm leaning towards the Dell Ultrasharp for $300 but it lacks an HDMI connection. Is there anyway to overcome this by using a convertor? I'm going to connect by DVI but want to have the option of using the monitor as an external display for my Macbook Air. The Dell is the only IPS display I can find.

You can definitely get around the lack of HDMI ports with a simple converter, however it won't be necessary. The MacBook Air doesn't use HDMI, it uses DisplayPort. Which the Dell happens to have anyhow. So you won't need any converters at all.

 

[The Green Bean]

You can definitely get around the lack of HDMI ports with a simple converter, however it won't be necessary. The MacBook Air doesn't use HDMI, it uses DisplayPort. Which the Dell happens to have anyhow. So you won't need any converters at all.

That's great. I already bought a HDMI convertor for the Macbook Air to connect to the TV. What do I need to connect using DisplayPort.

 

[gpse]

Dell u2312hm, great monitor

 

[ViRGE]

That's great. I already bought a HDMI convertor for the Macbook Air to connect to the TV. What do I need to connect using DisplayPort.

Just a standard miniDisplayPort to DisplayPort cable, e.g. something like this. mDP is on the Mac end, and DP is on the monitor end.

 

[Anarchist420]

Wait for something good to come out.

 

[The Green Bean]

Wait for something good to come out.

So none of the said monitors are 'good?'

 

[Anarchist420]

So none of the said monitors are 'good?'

no they all suck.

 

[Phynaz]

no they all suck.

And you say that out of the years of experience you have had with all of them?

 

[The Green Bean]

no they all suck.

Which would you buy? And if you could buy from the usa? I csn get a decent used crt for $100 but theyre too big.

 

[ViRGE]

Which would you buy? And if you could buy from the usa? I csn get a decent used crt for $100 but theyre too big.

Ignore Anarchist420; he's a grouchy contrarian.

The Dell U2412M is a very nice monitor.

 

[Anarchist420]

Which would you buy? And if you could buy from the usa? I csn get a decent used crt for $100 but theyre too big.

I would wait for something decent to come out. My apple led cinema sucks because of the input lag, poor contrast, and super low color gamut. I got it 3 years ago because at the time a glossy h ips was cool, but it really kind of sucks considering what it could be.

WLEDs are awful... I wish they had never come out because they're never going to go away.

I would actually recommend the newest hazro monitor, but I heard that the flicker from pwm is kind of bad, it doesn't have that great of contrast, and it doesnt have a glossy (glass would be best, but plastic clear would be okay) panel. The input lag on it is low enough that 120 hz input isn't absolute necessary as long as frame rate target and not more than 1 frame to render ahead are set on.

 

[Anarchist420]

And you say that out of the years of experience you have had with all of them?

Hands on experience doesn't matter when all of them add more than 4 ms input lag with vsync off, are non-Ips, have a non glossy coating, display less than 110% of the ntsc gamut, have less than 800:1 cr after calibration, have poor uniformity (like less than 97% overall), have PWM that is less than 1khz at any brightness setting above 40%, have less than 100k hrs life at full brightness and rated input voltage, or any combination of those.

 

[cmdrdredd]

I don't know if a 27" is too much for your desk area or 2560x1440 is too much for your GPU to handle but consider a catleap from the ebay sellers. They really are great monitors for under $400 US. Free worldwide shipping too (I don't know your import fees though).

 

[The Green Bean]

27" might be too big. Besides, I'm not a fan of importing. Takes too long and without tracking you never know if it'll get here.

 

[MontyAC]

You do track the shipments of the 27" monitors from Korea. The shipments are really fast, 2 to 3 days only.

 

[Phynaz]

Hands on experience doesn't matter when all of them add more than 4 ms input lag with vsync off, are non-Ips, have a non glossy coating, display less than 110% of the ntsc gamut, have less than 800:1 cr after calibration, have poor uniformity (like less than 97% overall), have PWM that is less than 1khz at any brightness setting above 40%, have less than 100k hrs life at full brightness and rated input voltage, or any combination of those.

Yeah, right. Most of your post complete bunk.

 

[HOOfan 1]

What happened to the LCD recommendation thread which used to be stickied at the top of this board?

 

[Anarchist420]

Yeah, right. Most of your post complete bunk.

No it's not, most people are just putting up with crappy displays.

 

[cmdrdredd]

27" might be too big. Besides, I'm not a fan of importing. Takes too long and without tracking you never know if it'll get here.

They ship via DHL usually and will have tracking numbers and everything. I got my monitor from Seoul to Miami in about 4 days.

 

[Phynaz]

No it's not, most people are just putting up with crappy displays.

Which doesn't change the fact that your post is still bunk.

 

[The Green Bean]

They ship via DHL usually and will have tracking numbers and everything. I got my monitor from Seoul to Miami in about 4 days.

Can you post a link or two?

 

[cmdrdredd]

Can you post a link or two?

Search ebay for catleap and you'll have a ton of links.

Usually ebay links aren't allowed on many forums, and I'm not 100% sure about the rules on that here.

 

[The Green Bean]

Search ebay for catleap and you'll have a ton of links.

Usually ebay links aren't allowed on many forums, and I'm not 100% sure about the rules on that here.

Are these monitors any good? $300 seems quite cheap for a 27" IPS. Seriously considering them.

 

[kevinsbane]

Are these monitors any good? $300 seems quite cheap for a 27" IPS. Seriously considering them.

They are great screens. I own a 120hz capable, tempered glass version.

That being said, there are several caveats.

They are 1440p (yes, this is a drawback). You will find that HDMI will not drive them at full resolution. (The specs may say they will; reality says otherwise) The majority of the korean 27" IPS are DVI only; the more expensive "multi" ones have HDMI, VGA and displayport (the even more expensive ones). Even the multi ones will not drive the monitor at full 1440p resolution except over DL-DVI or displayport. To drive one of the DVI only ones at full resolution, you'll need a $75-$100 Dual Link active DP->DVI adapter. Which have a reputation for being flaky.

If you're going to be using the monitors with a macbook air, I'd stick with the dell ultrasharp U2412m. I have the 23" version of it and it runs well, has good connectivity and can take HDMI signals via an inexpensive adapter. That and it's got the most pixel real estate and is an IPS screen, and has an excellent stand.