LCD Monitors

Mongoo

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First off, whats a good dot pitch? Is it better to have a higher or lower dot pitch? Is D-Sub the same as VGA? Is 500 good enough contrast? Is there a big difference between 16m/s response and a 25m/s reponse? How important do you find incresead veiw angle to be? What about refresh rate?

Over all what are the most important qualities you look for in a LCD monitor? How about CRT's too?


I plan on getting two monitors. 1 CRT and 1 LCD to run in dual display. I've heard LCD's would be better for Photo editing because they have more correct geometry. Is that correct? Conversly I've heard CRT is the way to go for gaming.

Any recomendations for one of each?

Thanks

Mongoo
 
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Well I can answer some, and I'm sure there'll be others who can help as well.

D-Sub = VGA DVI>VGA (DVI is better)

A 16ms response time is better for gaming and viewing video. If you don't do those things on the LCD then a 25ms will be fine.

Refresh rates on LCDs don't really matter that much, or at least nowhere near as much as they do on CRTs.

A lot of the specs for LCDs don't mean a whole lot. What I mean is that if you compare specs of LCDs to one another its not that good of an indication, you'd have to compare actually using them to get an idea.

CRTs are typically better for gaming. Not sure about the LCDs geometry thing.

I have a 2001FP that I find to be amazing. Might be a bit too pricey for you though. What price range are you looking at?
 

VIAN

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The smaller the dot pitch the better.

D-Sub is the same as VGA.

Can't trust any numbers.

There is a big difference between those response times. But be very careful of those numbers. If an LCD will work for 1ms at 16ms response, then it is rated 16ms response even tho most of the time, it might be 40ms. Usually they say 16ms(typical), which is better than just 16ms.

Verticle viewing angle is very important to me, unfortunately the LCD matrix, TN+Film, that is great for gaming has a sore spot in that area. PVA is great for anything but gaming.

Refresh rate is unimportant.

Important qualities for LCD:

Good verticle viewing angle. At least 16ms(typical). DVI support. TN+Film matrix.

Important qualities for CRTs:

It must be a Mitsubishi monitor.

I plan on getting two monitors. 1 CRT and 1 LCD to run in dual display. I've heard LCD's would be better for Photo editing because they have more correct geometry. Is that correct? Conversly I've heard CRT is the way to go for gaming.
LCDs lack good color as compared to CRTs. Any color editing should be done on a CRT because they have uniform color throughout the screen. LCDs don't. But the geometry is better on a LCD, but I don't see the relevance.

For gaming CRTs perform better and are much cheaper.

http://www.necmitsubishi.com/p...1&Classification=1
 

Mongoo

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Well if color is better on CRT's, What is the advantage of LCD monitors? I mean besides the obvious depth size.

Overall I plan to use my computer for video/photo/music editing so I can create as close to pro quality media as I can. I also have played my share of games in the past.

Any recomendations for dual set up? I guess $700 max for 2 moniotrs, but less is always better, you know.

Thanks

Mongoo
 

VIAN

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LCDs Pros:
Perfect Geometry
More Accurate Color Placement (a.k.a. crispier/sharper picture)
Lower Space Consumption
Lower Power Consumption
Lower Heat Output
Lower Noticeable Tearing (in games with Vsync Off)
Higher Brightness

CRTs(AG) Pros:
More Accurate Color Reproduction
Quicker Response Time
Cheaper
Higher Contrast
Higher Viewing Angle (if gaming and video is of your concern)
No Dead Pixels
Scale Resolutions Accurately
Returnable
 

Mongoo

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Are LCD better at any paticular applications then? Such as photo, video editing, or 3d modeling?

Whats the difference between color placement and reproduction?

Where is the perfect geometry useful?
 

VIAN

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Color placement is how the colors are placed on the screen. The LCD has immaculate color placement. And that's why it has such clean and clear picture, unlike the CRT where in the center the color placement is just as good, but as you start to head outward the colors aren't placed as well and the picture becomes more blurrier.

Color reproduction is how true the color is to what it's supposed to be.

Perfect geometry's usefulness...? I guess it would add to the clarity of the picture quality.

The LCD being better at any particular application....

If you don't care about games and you don't mind the colors being a bit off - you probably won't notice unless you do color tests or compare against a CRT, then a PVA matrix LCD is much more pleasant to look at considering how sexy it is and it has a killer viewing angle, just as good as a CRT and the crispiness of the picture.