LCD Help

[Paratus]

My old LCD died and I want to replace it with a 24" 19 x 12.

I've read xtnights LCD thread and I'm trying to decide between the HP H-IPS and the BenQ TN display (the displays du jour in the LCD thread) I game and do office work, while my wife does a lot of photo stuff, (scrap booking not photoshop). We occasionally watch movies or tv on the computer while working.

We'd be coming from a 7 year old Planar 19" 12x10. My machine is a P4 3.2E & x1950pro 512 AGP. I am planning on doing a complete rebuild with a Core i7 later this year.

I like the price on the BenQ at $360, but I'm worried about viewing angle and color accuracy. The HP is around $560, so I'm wondering if it's worth the extra dough.

Also does anyone here own an IPS LCD and like or dislike?

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[dhorn]

I don't personally own one, but I am familiar with them, and they do have noticeably better picture quality and viewing angle then the TN panel (better color reproduction, saturation, etc). The things you gain with TN panels however are speed (virtually no ghosting now a days) and price. It's hard to really say which one is going to be the most useful for you (probably depends on how much you game), but the IPS panels are generally considered better. Up to you to determine the quality/price aspect.

 

[Arkaign]

Dhorn summed it up nicely. Though if you were satisfied with gaming on that old planar LCD, you'll be THRILLED with how far things have come. TN panels are honestly quite good, and offer the cheapest price for the size, but IPS and the others (S-PVA, etc) are a little to a lot better in terms of color accuracy (typically 6-bit pixel color vs. 8-bit).

 

[Paratus]

Are there any other panels you might suggest? I know the Dell 2408 is PVA and it's not priced any worse than the HP.

 

[brblx]

pva is typically not quite as accurate but has many of the general pros of ips- good viewing angles, full color spectrum. though i have a 10ms pva and notice no ghosting, they're generally regarded as not as fast as tn panels, which are commonly 4-6ms (2-3 advertised).

 

[Hadsus]

Originally posted by: Arkaign
Dhorn summed it up nicely. Though if you were satisfied with gaming on that old planar LCD, you'll be THRILLED with how far things have come. TN panels are honestly quite good, and offer the cheapest price for the size, but IPS and the others (S-PVA, etc) are a little to a lot better in terms of color accuracy (typically 6-bit pixel color vs. 8-bit).

My S-PVA is not a whole lot better with color and accuracy than my new TN (Sammy vs. LG....see sig). With gaming the TN is considerably better (quicker, no blurring, input lag). You'll need to sit in front of your TN though so you'll not get off angle washout and color abnormalities. Still, I find myself enjoying my TN more than the S-PVA.

 

[dhorn]

I think if you use it for movies, you'll find something other than a TN panel most beneficial. I have two 22" Dell TN panels and they are good, but it's often hard to sit at the right angle to get good picture quality for a movie. Viewing angle would probably be my main concern with TN panels if that is one of the uses.

 

[IlllI]

a lot of photo stuff = ips. no contest

 

[iandh]

Originally posted by: dhorn
I think if you use it for movies, you'll find something other than a TN panel most beneficial. I have two 22" Dell TN panels and they are good, but it's often hard to sit at the right angle to get good picture quality for a movie. Viewing angle would probably be my main concern with TN panels if that is one of the uses.

This is a good observation. Honestly as long as the seating area isn't way above or below or way off to the side, it should be OK. I used to sit on a futon in my office that was much lower than my computer desk and it was pretty much tolerable although I did get a little but of backlight wash and color warp.

The newest TN's are MUCH MUCH MUCH better than back in the old days, but still don't quite compare to an IPS IMO.

Honestly since your wife is just doing scrapbooking I would spring for something like the Samsung T260HD, the 26" size works GREAT as a TV, it has HDMI, and gaming on it is almost as good as sex. Since it is a high quality monitor the TN panel is better than tolerable.

 

[Jumpem]

S-IPS.

This: http://www.newegg.com/Product/...?Item=N82E16824185010R

 

[Hadsus]

Best thing is to get a good return policy. Order both designs (or whatever alternative to TN) and return the one you don't want. With BB, returning is easy but you're gonna be looking only at TNs. It really sucks that the B&Ms don't carry the higher end designs. I bought my Sammy S-PVA a couple of years ago at Office Depot but they don't carry 'em anymore. If you care about gaming (especially FPSs) you owe yourself the comparison. Because there is a big difference.

 

[Paratus]

Originally posted by: Jumpem
S-IPS.

This: http://www.newegg.com/Product/...?Item=N82E16824185010R

I checked it out but I think 24" is as big as I can go in the space that I have. So I think I'll give the HP H-IPS a shot. It should be good for my wifes photo stuff and multimedia. I don't see it being any worse for gaming than my current LCD, (other than my machine will choke if I try and run any game at native rez )

 

[emilyek]

For some reason the other day I decided to break out my 7-year old 17" NEC LCD and run it in tandem with the Samsung 22" TN I've had for a couple years.

The image quality is inferior on the NEC, but the colors are much, much better.

I'll definitley be looking at stuff besides TN for my next purchase.

 

[Soulkeeper]

Which type of display is easiest on the eyes for reading ?
I do a lot of reading on my crt and my eyes water sometimes and hurt (can read for hours at a time)

 

[Paratus]

I went ahead and ordered it. Newegg had it for $549.99. I post a review when I get it. I also try and run some game benchmarks at 19x12 just for giggles.

 

[Soulkeeper]

Got a link to the one you purchased, for inquiring minds ?

 

[allies]

I'm assuming he picked up the HP:Text

 

[mcvickj]

If the OP did purchase the HP LP2475w I would be interested in hearing his comments when it arrives. I've been looking at purchasing a new LCD and this is one of the few on the short list.

 

[Paratus]

That's the one I bought. Once it gets here I'll post my thoughts on the panel.

 

[LokutusofBorg]

Don't let the initial settings on the panel disappoint you. You're likely going to have to spend some serious time tweaking settings or end up springing for a calibrator to get that HP looking tip top. But once you invest the time and get it set up the way you like it, I think you're really going to like that HP.

 

[Paratus]

I used some of the setting at TFT central to tweak the colors and tone down the brightness. So far I'm very happy with the monitor. It could use a bit more tweaking however. I'll post some thoughts on it in a couple of days once I've used it some more.

 

[nitromullet]

Not sure if these are linked in the LCD thread or not, but prad.de has some thorough LCD reviews (if these are the BenQ and HP panels you are referring to):

BenQ E2400D (TN) review: http://www.prad.de/en/monitore...view-benq-e2400hd.html
HP LP2475W (S-IPS) review: http://www.prad.de/en/monitore...review-hp-lp2475w.html

One thing to note: The HP is a wide gamut display. If you aren't familiar with wide gamut LCD's, I would suggest googling that a bit to see if that is something you want. I ended up with a 96% color gamut LCD, but the Dell 2408WFP with a 107% color gamut was too much. The HP has a 102% color gamut.