LCD HDTV is 1080i

tigersty1e

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I know computer LCD monitors look great at the native res. and relatively bad on a lower res.

My parents just bought a big LCD HDTV and it says the res is 1080i (1920 × 1080) and it also says its 720p (1280 x 720)


To put things in perspective, I'm trying to play computer games on the LCD TV. (BF2 on a 40 incher) :)


1. So does this mean picture quality on 720p is nasty because it's not on the native res?

2. BF2 doesn't support widescreen, so I will have to use a 4:3 aspect ratio. So is 1440 x 1080 still in the native res?

3. I currently play my games at 1280 x 1024 res. How much more computer/video card speed is needed to go from 1280 x 1024 to 1440 x 1080?
 

gramboh

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What is the native resolution of the LCD? If it is 1920x1080 then it is 1080p, LCD does not support interlacing from what I know.

Most likely it was some 1366x768 type resolution, and natively supports 720p and 'supports' 1080i through downsampling to the native resolution but does not display 1920x1200 pixels.

What you want to do is find the native resolution and output that res from your video card. This can be a problem in games that don't support widescreen/custom resolutions properly of which BF is one. Check www.widescreengamingforum.com for info.

For your last question:

1280x1024= 1,310,720 pixels
1440x1080= 1,555,200 pixels or a 18.7% increase in pixel count and thus required video power (roughly).

If you are using a 4:3 resolution on the LCD you will want to use 1:1 pixel mapping if your video card/drivers or LCD support it (e.g. play with black bars on the side). The stretched image will look terrible.
 

tigersty1e

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Originally posted by: gramboh
What is the native resolution of the LCD? If it is 1920x1080 then it is 1080p, LCD does not support interlacing from what I know.

Most likely it was some 1366x768 type resolution, and natively supports 720p and 'supports' 1080i through downsampling to the native resolution but does not display 1920x1200 pixels.

What you want to do is find the native resolution and output that res from your video card. This can be a problem in games that don't support widescreen/custom resolutions properly of which BF is one. Check www.widescreengamingforum.com for info.

For your last question:

1280x1024= 1,310,720 pixels
1440x1080= 1,555,200 pixels or a 18.7% increase in pixel count and thus required video power (roughly).

If you are using a 4:3 resolution on the LCD you will want to use 1:1 pixel mapping if your video card/drivers or LCD support it (e.g. play with black bars on the side). The stretched image will look terrible.

It's the Sony Bravia (not sure what brand exactly), but there was a sticker that said full HD 1080p (1920 x 1080)

If I attach the Computer to the tv, will the res be 1920 x 1080?
 

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Full HD 1080p is 1920x1080 native yes

If it's a bravia 2, even better.. heh.

The native will require quite a good video card to play that in though.

Also, BF2 can support widescreen.

You just need to go to widescreen forums or something like that, and they have utilities and ways to set the resolution in MANY games to 1920x1080.
 

Fraggable

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Originally posted by: tigersty1e
Originally posted by: gramboh
What is the native resolution of the LCD? If it is 1920x1080 then it is 1080p, LCD does not support interlacing from what I know.

Most likely it was some 1366x768 type resolution, and natively supports 720p and 'supports' 1080i through downsampling to the native resolution but does not display 1920x1200 pixels.

What you want to do is find the native resolution and output that res from your video card. This can be a problem in games that don't support widescreen/custom resolutions properly of which BF is one. Check www.widescreengamingforum.com for info.

For your last question:

1280x1024= 1,310,720 pixels
1440x1080= 1,555,200 pixels or a 18.7% increase in pixel count and thus required video power (roughly).

If you are using a 4:3 resolution on the LCD you will want to use 1:1 pixel mapping if your video card/drivers or LCD support it (e.g. play with black bars on the side). The stretched image will look terrible.

It's the Sony Bravia (not sure what brand exactly), but there was a sticker that said full HD 1080p (1920 x 1080)

If I attach the Computer to the tv, will the res be 1920 x 1080?

Sounds like it's 1920 X 1080 native. You're going to need a beast of a system to run BF2 at high settings though.

Minimum 512MB video card like a X1950XT or XTX, or a 640MB 8800GTS
 

tigersty1e

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Yeah, I know.

1920 x 1080 is going to need a monster system. I have a 6800, so that won't cut it.


If I dont use 16:9 widescreen and try to use a regular window size, what would be the native res on a non-widescreen?



It would be "something" x 1080.
 

Snakexor

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lots of misinformation in this thread.

LCDs by nature are progressive, thus it leads me to believe your tv is a 720p set that accepts 1080i
 

zylander

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Originally posted by: xtwells
Full HD 1080p is 1920x1080 native yes

If it's a bravia 2, even better.. heh.

The native will require quite a good video card to play that in though.

Also, BF2 can support widescreen.

You just need to go to widescreen forums or something like that, and they have utilities and ways to set the resolution in MANY games to 1920x1080.

Yup, go here, widescreen gaming forum, they have hacks to make BF2 wide screen, along with many other games.
 

Fraggable

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1280 X 1024? I don't think you want to try to run at a nonstadard res of something like 1350 X 1080 to get a perfect 4:3 that fits vertically, that's just awkward. It has to be a res that fits below each direction, and you'll have to get your monitor to display it 1:1 pixel ratio because if it stretches the image, thats going to be nasty.

Though your 6800 would be ok at 1280 X 1024. Depends on how much cash you want to spend on upgrades to do it.
 

tigersty1e

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Originally posted by: Fraggable
1280 X 1024? I don't think you want to try to run at a nonstadard res of something like 1350 X 1080 to get a perfect 4:3 that fits vertically, that's just awkward. It has to be a res that fits below each direction, and you'll have to get your monitor to display it 1:1 pixel ratio because if it stretches the image, thats going to be nasty.

Though your 6800 would be ok at 1280 X 1024. Depends on how much cash you want to spend on upgrades to do it.



Yup. I would love to game in 1920 x 1080, but the upgrades need to come later.

It would be great to game in 1280 x 1024, if I could just knock off the 640 off the sides.

It has to have been done before. Is this even possible to keep it 1:1 ?
 

Fraggable

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Originally posted by: tigersty1e
Originally posted by: Fraggable
1280 X 1024? I don't think you want to try to run at a nonstadard res of something like 1350 X 1080 to get a perfect 4:3 that fits vertically, that's just awkward. It has to be a res that fits below each direction, and you'll have to get your monitor to display it 1:1 pixel ratio because if it stretches the image, thats going to be nasty.

Though your 6800 would be ok at 1280 X 1024. Depends on how much cash you want to spend on upgrades to do it.



Yup. I would love to game in 1920 x 1080, but the upgrades need to come later.

It would be great to game in 1280 x 1024, if I could just knock off the 640 off the sides.

It has to have been done before. Is this even possible to keep it 1:1 ?

I think it depends on the monitor, whether it can do 1:1 scaling or not. I'd imagine a Bravia could, they're pretty much top of the line.
 

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Originally posted by: Fraggable
Originally posted by: tigersty1e
Originally posted by: Fraggable
1280 X 1024? I don't think you want to try to run at a nonstadard res of something like 1350 X 1080 to get a perfect 4:3 that fits vertically, that's just awkward. It has to be a res that fits below each direction, and you'll have to get your monitor to display it 1:1 pixel ratio because if it stretches the image, thats going to be nasty.

Though your 6800 would be ok at 1280 X 1024. Depends on how much cash you want to spend on upgrades to do it.



Yup. I would love to game in 1920 x 1080, but the upgrades need to come later.

It would be great to game in 1280 x 1024, if I could just knock off the 640 off the sides.

It has to have been done before. Is this even possible to keep it 1:1 ?

I think it depends on the monitor, whether it can do 1:1 scaling or not. I'd imagine a Bravia could, they're pretty much top of the line.

you can also do 1:1 scaling through the nvidia drivers i think