Lawyer Argues Sex With Deer Not A Crime.

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OrganizedChaos

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i agree, its not an animal.

eating a cow one bite at a time while alive = cruel
eating a cow one bite at a time while dead != cruel

you shouldn't go changing the meaning of the words depending on what you want to do with it.
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: RapidSnail
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Both the sick guy and his idiot lawyer should be sent to the menatl ward forever immediately.

Neither one of them should be anywhere near society.

Wow, I never thought I'd agree with Dave ever.

Anyway, it disgusts me not only this man's actions, but how people on here are actually taking sides with him or justifying him! Whatever happened to morality in this country?!?!?!?

*shudders*

I'm not taking sides with him, and he disgusts me too. I am, however, saying that we should NOT legislate morality for its own sake. In my opinion, for there to be a crime, there should be a victim.

If he killed this animal specifically for the purpose of having sex with the carcass, then that falls under cruelty to animals or some similar law. However, if he found an already dead carcass for his purpose, then there is no victim and there was no cruelty.

He should probably face a mandatory psych evaluation, and be sent to a mental health institution based on the results of that. But that's not the same thing as being convicted of a crime.
 

aka1nas

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Originally posted by: Amused
In April 2005, Hathaway pleaded no contest to one felony charge of mistreatment of an animal for the shooting death of Bambrick, a 26-year-old horse, to have sex with the animal.

This guy is really sick.

Maybe the horse was old and he was just putting it down... and well, why waste a perfectly good dead horse? :p
 

mercanucaribe

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Originally posted by: aka1nas
Originally posted by: Amused
In April 2005, Hathaway pleaded no contest to one felony charge of mistreatment of an animal for the shooting death of Bambrick, a 26-year-old horse, to have sex with the animal.

This guy is really sick.

Maybe the horse was old and he was just putting it down... and well, why waste a perfectly good dead horse? :p

You can beat a dead horse, but you can't have sex with it?
 

SampSon

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"crimes against sexual morality"
If that is the case I should be in prison for life.

DaShen, your outlook on social morality is incredibly conservative and polarizing, at least in this thread.
 

91TTZ

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Where is there even a law for this?

If some sick freak wants to screw a carcass, who is he hurting and what is the law protecting him from?
 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: Astaroth33

I'm not taking sides with him, and he disgusts me too. I am, however, saying that we should NOT legislate morality for its own sake. In my opinion, for there to be a crime, there should be a victim.

If he killed this animal specifically for the purpose of having sex with the carcass, then that falls under cruelty to animals or some similar law. However, if he found an already dead carcass for his purpose, then there is no victim and there was no cruelty.

He should probably face a mandatory psych evaluation, and be sent to a mental health institution based on the results of that. But that's not the same thing as being convicted of a crime.


Good point and well stated.

 

mooncancook

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Raping corpse, be it human or animal, should be outlawed.

For those who sided with this guy, imagine he living next to your door.
 

classy

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Both the sick guy and his idiot lawyer should be sent to the menatl ward forever immediately.

Neither one of them should be anywhere near society.

So so true. It is clear this guy has some kind of mental disturbance. God it is just so gross thinking about it.
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: classy
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Both the sick guy and his idiot lawyer should be sent to the menatl ward forever immediately.

Neither one of them should be anywhere near society.

So so true. It is clear this guy has some kind of mental disturbance. God it is just so gross thinking about it.

25 years ago many people said the same thing about interracial marriage. Careful where you tread.
 

classy

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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: classy
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Both the sick guy and his idiot lawyer should be sent to the menatl ward forever immediately.

Neither one of them should be anywhere near society.

So so true. It is clear this guy has some kind of mental disturbance. God it is just so gross thinking about it.

25 years ago many people said the same thing about interracial marriage. Careful where you tread.

WTF? You mean to tell me a dumb MFER like yourself is equating inter racial couples with a man having sex with dead animals? Go bleep yourself you racist FVck.
 

classy

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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: classy
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Both the sick guy and his idiot lawyer should be sent to the menatl ward forever immediately.

Neither one of them should be anywhere near society.

So so true. It is clear this guy has some kind of mental disturbance. God it is just so gross thinking about it.

25 years ago many people said the same thing about interracial marriage. Careful where you tread.


And you know what Mill I have read some pretty fvcked up statements, but comparing me to being with my wife is like sleeping with dead animals, you can go a fvcked yourself. And if I seen you face to face right now I would kicked your fvcking ass. B!tch
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: classy
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: classy
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Both the sick guy and his idiot lawyer should be sent to the menatl ward forever immediately.

Neither one of them should be anywhere near society.

So so true. It is clear this guy has some kind of mental disturbance. God it is just so gross thinking about it.

25 years ago many people said the same thing about interracial marriage. Careful where you tread.

WTF? You mean to tell me a dumb MFER like yourself is equating inter racial couples with a man having sex with dead animals? Go bleep yourself you racist FVck.

Considering I'm in an interracial relationship, I am most certainly not. I am saying that using whether or not someone thinks something is "gross" is a poor standard for laws and locking people up.

25 years ago people still tried to quote bible verses as reasons not to allow couples of other races to marry. Now they are doing it for the homosexuals. I am not saying people should be able to have relations with animals, but that something being "gross" is a very poor standard to use.

You should calm down and re-read what I posted.
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: classy
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: classy
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Both the sick guy and his idiot lawyer should be sent to the menatl ward forever immediately.

Neither one of them should be anywhere near society.

So so true. It is clear this guy has some kind of mental disturbance. God it is just so gross thinking about it.

25 years ago many people said the same thing about interracial marriage. Careful where you tread.


And you know what Mill I have read some pretty fvcked up statements, but comparing me to being with my wife is like sleeping with dead animals, you can go a fvcked yourself. And if I seen you face to face right now I would kicked your fvcking ass. B!tch

Always threatening violence. You'd have assaulted me for zero reason, and I would have shot you. I'm sorry you have a problem with contextual reading, but that's not my fault. I'm in an interracial relationship (soon to be marriage), so I don't know why the hell you are playing some kind of victim card. I wish you could see that what society sees as "gross" isn't a fair or relevant standard to whether or not people should be able to get married, or whom they have sex with. A lot of people say homosexuality is "gross" and they want gay marriage banned, and they quote similar bible verses that they used to use when it came to Interracial Marriage. The standard in our society should be whether or not someone else's rights are infringed upon, or if it harms someone. Neither interracial nor gay marriage harm anyone, and I dare say that fvcking a dead animal does either. It is silly to say that what you find sick or digusting should be the standard that society uses. Lots of people STILL have a problem with interracial marriage/relationships and gay marriage/relationships.

Take a chill pill.
 

shuttleboi

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Originally posted by: DaShen
Originally posted by: Savij
Other than the fact that the dude was outside, why should we care? Does it really affect anyone if I go home and have relatons with my ham sandwich?

Slippery slope.

Interviews with serial rapists, you find that all of them first started with pornagraphy and moved slowly to more kinky things and more porn. Eventually it escalates.

But I understand your point. The fact of the matter is that this guy did do this outside. But the behavior could escalate into even sicker and more harmful behavior. That is one of the reasons these laws are put into place. (of course one can argue that there are religious and personal ethics involved in this, but big picture it limits the "slide" to harmful behavior)


Hi DaShen! Just curious: who the hell do you think you are? There is no way you can extrapolate what this guy will or will not do. I don't care if you think his behaviour could possibly escalate into sicker behaviour. The fact is that has not, and you cannot judge him for something that your own sick mind fears. I personally can conjecture that people like you make this country worse. Now hush and leave the rest of us normal people alone.

 

shuttleboi

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Originally posted by: classy
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: classy
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Both the sick guy and his idiot lawyer should be sent to the menatl ward forever immediately.

Neither one of them should be anywhere near society.

So so true. It is clear this guy has some kind of mental disturbance. God it is just so gross thinking about it.

25 years ago many people said the same thing about interracial marriage. Careful where you tread.

WTF? You mean to tell me a dumb MFER like yourself is equating inter racial couples with a man having sex with dead animals? Go bleep yourself you racist FVck.


Amazing. You know, most high school students would be able to carefully piece together the gist of Mill's analogy, but apparently you cannot.
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: shuttleboi
Originally posted by: classy
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: classy
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Both the sick guy and his idiot lawyer should be sent to the menatl ward forever immediately.

Neither one of them should be anywhere near society.

So so true. It is clear this guy has some kind of mental disturbance. God it is just so gross thinking about it.

25 years ago many people said the same thing about interracial marriage. Careful where you tread.

WTF? You mean to tell me a dumb MFER like yourself is equating inter racial couples with a man having sex with dead animals? Go bleep yourself you racist FVck.


Amazing. You know, most high school students would be able to carefully piece together the gist of Mill's analogy, but apparently you cannot.

I was pretty amazed too. Apparently classy isn't the brightest guy around.
 

herkulease

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I'm surprised the public defender would even go to such lengths and to come up with such an argument.

Plea deal and move on to next case, man.
 

DaShen

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Originally posted by: SampSon
DaShen, your outlook on social morality is incredibly conservative and polarizing, at least in this thread.

;) Sorry about that. I don't want to polarize the situation, but I am just pointing out that most laws have social reasons behind them (laws usually aren't based solely on ignorance but have some grain of truth in them <not all laws though> ).

Because the nature of laws and society, if a law is worthless, society will change the law.

I just find it funny how a person could see this man's behavior as unintrusive to society. He kills animals to have sex with them. :confused: Not only that, he does this in public. Of course the law has every right to try him and prosecute him.