Lawsuit alleges drugs were forcibly administered to migrant children...

esquared

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That fat, lard-ass cheeto will just say "fake news " or try to blame the Democrats.
Disgusting pig.
 

WelshBloke

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I assumed that the drugs were going to be antibiotics or vaccines (theres been some reports of disease outbreaks) and I was going to play devils advocate but reading that it just seems they were just doping the children up with whatever they could get their hands on!
 

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This sounds a lot like what some foster kids have to endure, especially if they've been in legal trouble. They get "rescued" from hellish situation of abuse, are understandably angry and messed up, and often courts order psych reviews that result in the child ordered medicated in foster care. Doesn't mater if it's what's best for the child or if they want to take the drugs or not.

Some disreputable foster parents make a good living housing kids who've been court ordered forcibly drugged to make them easy to deal with. If the kids refuse they get violated back into custody. And at 18 they are often dumped on the street when the government stops paying.

I'm not anti-drug, but it's too often used as a quick and easy way to control kids without addressing their deeper issues. It sounds exactly like what they are doing at the Shiloh Treatment Center to these poor kids if the story is true. Nice to see this is going to court and someone might be held accountable.
 
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This sounds a lot like what some foster kids have to endure, especially if they've been in legal trouble. They get "rescued" from hellish situation of abuse, are understandably angry and messed up, and often courts order psych reviews that result in the child ordered medicated in foster care. Doesn't mater if it's what's best for the child or what they want to take the drugs or not.

Some disreputable foster parents make a good living housing kids who've been court ordered forcibly drugged to make them easy to deal with. If the kids refuse they get violated back into custody. And at 18 they are often dumped on the street when the government stops paying.

I'm not anti-drug, but it's too often used as a quick and easy way to control kids without addressing their deeper issues. It sounds exactly like what they are doing at the Shiloh Treatment Center to these poor kids if the story is true. Nice to see this is going to court and someone might be held accountable.

if this story is true no court was reviewing anything and they were just drugging them.
 

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if this story is true no court was reviewing anything and they were just drugging them.
Yup, very reprehensible. Not that we should feel better about it if a court had. Too many docs have been caught rubber stamping drugs for kids to shut them up and make them easy to manage.
 

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Yup, very reprehensible. Not that we should feel better about it if a court had. Too many docs have been caught rubber stamping drugs for kids to shut them up and make them easy to manage.
I dont see in the article where a medical or mental Health professional was involved
 
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WTF is Casey Anthony running these facilities? Did they dress up Mrs Doubtfire style claiming to be "Zanny the Nanny"?
 

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The scale of the cruelty being inflicted, I'm sure, has barely begun coming to light.

https://apnews.com/afc80e51b562462c89907b49ae624e79

Young immigrants detained in Virginia center allege abuse

Immigrant children as young as 14 housed at a juvenile detention center in Virginia say they were beaten while handcuffed and locked up for long periods in solitary confinement, left nude and shivering in concrete cells.

The abuse claims against the Shenandoah Valley Juvenile Center near Staunton, Virginia, are detailed in federal court filings that include a half-dozen sworn statements from Latino teens jailed there for months or years. Multiple detainees say the guards stripped them of their clothes and strapped them to chairs with bags placed over their heads.

“Whenever they used to restrain me and put me in the chair, they would handcuff me,” said a Honduran immigrant who was sent to the facility when he was 15 years old. “Strapped me down all the way, from your feet all the way to your chest, you couldn’t really move. ... They have total control over you. They also put a bag over your head. It has little holes; you can see through it. But you feel suffocated with the bag on.”


In addition to the children’s first-hand, translated accounts in court filings, a former child-development specialist who worked inside the facility independently told The Associated Press this week that she saw kids there with bruises and broken bones they blamed on guards. She spoke on condition of anonymity because she was not authorized to publicly discuss the children’s cases.


Many of the children were sent there after U.S. immigration authorities accused them of belonging to violent gangs, including MS-13. President Donald Trump has repeatedly cited gang activity as justification for his crackdown on illegal immigration.


But a top manager at the Shenandoah center said during a recent congressional hearing that the children did not appear to be gang members and were suffering from mental health issues resulting from trauma that happened in their home countries — problems the detention facility is ill-equipped to treat.

“The youth were being screened as gang-involved individuals. And then when they came into our care, and they were assessed by our clinical and case management staff ... they weren’t necessarily identified as gang-involved individuals,” said Kelsey Wong, a program director at the facility. She testified April 26 before a Senate subcommittee reviewing the treatment of immigrant children apprehended by the Homeland Security Department.


The child development specialist who previously worked with teens at Shenandoah told AP that many there developed severe psychological problems after experiencing abuse from guards.

“The majority of the kids we worked with when we went to visit them were emotionally and verbally abused. I had a kid whose foot was broken by a guard,” she said. “They would get put in isolation for months for things like picking up a pencil when a guard had said not to move. Some of them started hearing voices that were telling them to hurt people or hurt themselves, and I knew when they had gotten to Shenandoah they were not having any violent thoughts.”
 

Paladin3

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I dont see in the article where a medical or mental Health professional was involved
I didn't say there was. I was basically comparing what is happening now to these immigrant children to what has gone on for a long time with children in the care of our government.
 
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soundforbjt

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If those are drugs without medical order, Republicans need to get off their ass and send people to prison for that. And if they even hesitate, people need to throw them out of office.
Good luck with that happening, republicans support this president more than any other in recent history.
 

ch33zw1z

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If those are drugs without medical order, Republicans need to get off their ass and send people to prison for that. And if they even hesitate, people need to throw them out of office.

Lol, dare to dream, I applaud your optimism
 

UNCjigga

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If this type of treatment had been going on since the Obama administration or earlier, then by all means let's dial up the outrage on Both Sides️ and fix it together. The fact that he can blame Obama should give Trump the courage he needs to see that these practices are undone.
 
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JSt0rm

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Pretty sure this is how terrorist groups are created. The children growing up and seeking vengeance for acts they and their families were subjected to by an over-reaching, ham-handed governmental action against them.

That just feeds trumps America first ethos.
 

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Pretty sure this is how terrorist groups are created. The children growing up and seeking vengeance for acts they and their families were subjected to by an over-reaching, ham-handed governmental action against them.

Yeah, too bad Obama didn't take care of it when it was happening.



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