Laws of the Dumb: Hope you aren't a parent in AZ

[Paratus]

Due to some horrifically bad legislation and judging changing a diaper or bathing your child is now a sex crime.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_facto...s_due_process_for_parents_and_caregivers.html

The Arizona Supreme Court issued a stunning and horrifying decision on Tuesday, interpreting a state law to criminalize any contact between an adult and a child’s genitals. According to the court, the law’s sweep encompasses wholly innocent conduct, such as changing a diaper or bathing a baby. As the stinging dissent notes, “parents and other caregivers” in the state are now considered to be “child molesters or sex abusers under Arizona law.” Those convicted under the statute may be imprisoned for five years.

Of course prosecution relies on the prosecutors who won't want to go after your average parent. I'm also sure they will never abuse this law in an effort force to plea bargains or improve their conviction records.

 

[theeedude]

Republican states, just fly over, point and laugh.

 

[trenchfoot]

A law like this can be and probably will be abused for personal or political gain if the language isn't more clearly defined.

 

[openwheel]

Red state. Mostly likely will be carried by Trump in November. Enough said.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Red state. Mostly likely will be carried by Trump in November. Enough said.

Maybe not? As of last week it appears to be pretty much a tie.

"Arizona is a too-close-to-call presidential battleground between Democrat Hillary Clinton and Republican Donald Trump, according to a new statewide Arizona Republic/Morrison/Cronkite News poll.

The live telephone survey found Clinton, the former secretary of State, leading Trump, the celebrity billionaire, 35.1 percent to 33.5 percent among likely voters in the traditional red state, well within the poll's margin of error of plus or minus 3.3 percentage points.

Third-party candidates captured another 8 percent or so: Libertarian Gary Johnson was supported by 6.9 percent; Green Party nominee Jill Stein by 1.5 percent.

Another 22.9 percent haven't decided yet."

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news...etween-hillary-clinton-donald-trump/89919308/

 

[feralkid]

Plus, this year will likely see the largest hispanic voter turnout in decades; needless to say, they're not voting for Donnie.

 

[Paratus]

A law like this can be and probably will be abused for personal or political gain if the language isn't more clearly defined.

In all other states with similar laws the law states contact has to be done for a sexual reason to be prosecuted. Which means they have to prove your guilt.

Here you'd have to prove contact wasn't sexual in effect assuming your guilty from the start. There's no way that would pass
constitutional muster.

How the legislature and the majority of judges got this wrong is mind boggling.

 

[glenn1]

In all other states with similar laws the law states contact has to be done for a sexual reason to be prosecuted. Which means they have to prove your guilt.

Here you'd have to prove contact wasn't sexual in effect assuming your guilty from the start. There's no way that would pass

How the legislature and the majority of judges got this wrong is mind boggling.

WRT the bolded, that's exactly the standard that some progressives are in favor of under different circumstances, such as if you're a rich corporation. And it did pass via court ruling in blue state Wisconsin, the legislature attempting to undo it has some ATPN people up in arms.

https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/gop-eases-lead-paint-laws-after-750-000-in-donations.2486602/

 

[OutHouse]

wow, what a fucked up law. dont those stupid fuck justices have kids?

 

[OutHouse]

Republican states, just fly over, point and laugh.

humm only 2 justices were appointed by a republican governor.


Justice Tenure Selected by
Chief Justice Scott Bales 2005-2021 Gov. Janet Napolitano
Justice Ann Timmer 2012-2017 Gov. Jan Brewer (R)
Justice John Pelander 2009-2019 Gov. Jan Brewer
Justice Robert Brutinel 2010-2021 Gov. Jan Brewer
Justice Clint Bolick 2016-2019 Gov. Doug Ducey (R)

 

[Atreus21]

humm only 2 justices were appointed by a republican governor.


Justice Tenure Selected by
Chief Justice Scott Bales 2005-2021 Gov. Janet Napolitano
Justice Ann Timmer 2012-2017 Gov. Jan Brewer (R)
Justice John Pelander 2009-2019 Gov. Jan Brewer
Justice Robert Brutinel 2010-2021 Gov. Jan Brewer
Justice Clint Bolick 2016-2019 Gov. Doug Ducey (R)

Either I'm reading that wrong or you are. Looks like 4 appointed by R's to me.

 

[glenn1]

wow, what a fucked up law. dont those stupid fuck justices have kids?

The one woman on the court (Timmer) concurred with the ruling. So far wikipedia and other sources don't show if any of those who voted in favor are parents.

 

[Victorian Gray]

humm only 2 justices were appointed by a republican governor.


Justice Tenure Selected by
Chief Justice Scott Bales 2005-2021 Gov. Janet Napolitano
Justice Ann Timmer 2012-2017 Gov. Jan Brewer (R)
Justice John Pelander 2009-2019 Gov. Jan Brewer
Justice Robert Brutinel 2010-2021 Gov. Jan Brewer
Justice Clint Bolick 2016-2019 Gov. Doug Ducey (R)

"Jan Brewer is a former Governor of Arizona. She served from January 2009 to January 2015 and was a Republican. For an extensive profile, see: Jan Brewer."

from your own link.

Are you still humming?

 

[Zaap]

Retarded all the way around. But then, I don't have too much trust in the justice system to begin with.

I don't buy for a minute that this represents the views of the electorate in Arizona. (Does anyone really believe the people of AZ want to be harassed by courts for changing/bathing their children? If you believe so, you're dumb as a fence post.) It's a bunch of out of touch legislators and judges, doing what they want, the will of the people be damned. That attitude is common with legislators and R vs. D has little to do with it.