Lawn Darts

JEDI

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawn_darts

On December 19, 1988, the Consumer Product Safety Commission banned lawn darts from sale in the United States due to their hazards as a flying projectile with a sharp metal point.[1]


WTFBBQ? Why are regular darts (ie: in a bar) allowed then?

it's the same principles:
1) flying projectile with a sharp metal point
2) easy access to alcohol
 

Minjin

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Lawn darts were much bigger. Good luck trying to kill someone with a regular bar room dart.
 

GagHalfrunt

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Dart doesn't have the mass to penetrate a skull, a lawn dart does.

I've got two sets of Jarts, picked them up cheap when they were banned. I still use them, they're one of the most fun picnic games ever invented.
 

rudeguy

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those things were awesome!

However did we survive with those evil things???
 

Murloc

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Lawn dart:
kept in house, with the stuff and games you use in the lawn
=> children will use them
children are stupid (inexperienced of the world)
they're heavier than normal darts because they have to travel longer ranges.

Bar dart:
only adults using them (no children at bars usually)
adults are conscious of the injuries and legal consequences of it, even if drinking alcohol.
They're smaller.

I don't think the ban is weird, but I still think I wouldn't have forbidden them.
It's up to the parents to avoid letting children play with them.
Sometimes the state has to take over when the parents aren't responsible enough, but that sucks.

Older people always recall dangerous stuff and games they did when they were children, and ask how they survived.
They did, but many more people got seriously injured in the past.
 

grohl

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A kid in my third grade class had a bad head injury. He was hurt by an adult at a backyard party. Had brain surgery and was never the same again. :(
 

zinfamous

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawn_darts

On December 19, 1988, the Consumer Product Safety Commission banned lawn darts from sale in the United States due to their hazards as a flying projectile with a sharp metal point.[1]


WTFBBQ? Why are regular darts (ie: in a bar) allowed then?

it's the same principles:
1) flying projectile with a sharp metal point
2) easy access to alcohol

I guess this was before your time.

some retard kids killed themselves by throwing them at each other, effectively ruining everyone else's fun.

They were awesome.

:(
 

ahenkel

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I never had the cool impale you darts, I had the much lamer bludgeon you version.
 

mmntech

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I have a theory. Children living in the United States are significantly dumber than their counterparts in other countries. Apparently Kinder Eggs are banned there because kids are choking on the little toys. When I was little, I used to love those things. I never thought about putting the little plastic bi-plane into my mouth.
 

DrPizza

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Not to put down that journal's article, but I wonder if they cherry selected the group of people whose injuries they studied? They claimed a 4% fatality rate in their group - yet prior to their banning, there were only 2 fatalities, total (unless I'm mistaken.) While 675 injuries sounds like a lot, with 2 deaths; in the 80's, lawn darts were incredibly popular. Compare their overall accident and fatality rate to bicycles.

My family has had lawn darts since my kids were little. When the kids were younger, they were supervised. I'll bet in the last 21 years, my family spent more time playing that game together than any other game around the house. Zero injuries, zero close calls, nothing even remotely resembling dangerous. On the other hand, several bruised shins from horseshoes taking wild bounces.
 
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Meghan54

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Lawn darts. Everyone knows they're called...JARTS!

Loved those things. But you could throw one straight up in the air and easily lose sight of it, making tracking it back to the ground a tad difficult. We'd do it and then run for the porch...and hope the dog didn't get impaled.
 

weadjust

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A lawn dart thrown really high will stick in the hood of a freshly painted 61 VW beetle. My dad was really pissed off.
 

DrPizza

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I have a theory. Children living in the United States are significantly dumber than their counterparts in other countries. Apparently Kinder Eggs are banned there because kids are choking on the little toys. When I was little, I used to love those things. I never thought about putting the little plastic bi-plane into my mouth.

I have a theory. Our laws prevent stupid kids from killing themselves. Those kids now grow up, breed, and have more stupid kids. Darwin has been stopped in his tracks.
 

mmntech

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I have a theory. Our laws prevent stupid kids from killing themselves. Those kids now grow up, breed, and have more stupid kids. Darwin has been stopped in his tracks.

And those kids run for congress, or president... :hmm:
 

Eli

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Holy Crap!

675 cases per year?

D:D:

i had no idea..isn't that greater than the incident of injury/death to drunk driving?

Are you kidding?

Without even looking, I would say that drunk driving injuries/deaths are probably 20x that number per year.

Alcohol is a helluva drug.
 

zinfamous

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I never had the cool impale you darts, I had the much lamer bludgeon you version.

yeah, me too. they were really heavy and had very thick, blunt ends. I never came close to injuring myself or anyone else with them, as I always imagine how much it would fucking hurt if I got nailed with one. I was 6 or 7 at the time.
 

zinfamous

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Are you kidding?

Without even looking, I would say that drunk driving injuries/deaths are probably 20x that number per year.

Alcohol is a helluva drug.

heyheyhey, I'm just assuming here. until today, I had only assumed that maybe 2 kids were ever injured with lawn darts.

...and besides, not to go down Alkymest's route or anything, but there's difficulty in quantifying the actual involvement of alcohol in accidents. --kind of like reporting suicides. just sayin.

with something like lawn darts, at least you have a dude walking into the hospital with a fucking dart in his skull. not really a gray area.
:D
 

l0cke

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When I was about 13 we used model rockets to make "lawn darts". Just glue the nose on, launch, and run away :eek:

They would stick in the ground and everything.
 

GagHalfrunt

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No, drunk driving fatalities are over 10K/year in the US.

Drunk driving 10K, all alcohol-related deaths something like 50,000. Smoking deaths 500,000 annually. Lawn darts are banned, but cigarettes and liquor are sold over the counter. God Bless America.
 

rudeguy

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Lawn dart:
kept in house, with the stuff and games you use in the lawn
=> children will use them
children are stupid (inexperienced of the world)
they're heavier than normal darts because they have to travel longer ranges.

Bar dart:
only adults using them (no children at bars usually)
adults are conscious of the injuries and legal consequences of it, even if drinking alcohol.
They're smaller.

I don't think the ban is weird, but I still think I wouldn't have forbidden them.
It's up to the parents to avoid letting children play with them.
Sometimes the state has to take over when the parents aren't responsible enough, but that sucks.

Older people always recall dangerous stuff and games they did when they were children, and ask how they survived.
They did, but many more people got seriously injured in the past.


prove it