Lawmakers Angry With Obama Over Libyan Strike, Warn Administration Lacks 'End-Game'

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Throckmorton

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I fail to see how this is any different than Bush and Iraq. Honestly. I realize that there was "bad intel" on the part of the intelligence groups, but so? Same shit has been going on with Lybia. A little lie here, a smudging of the truth there, boom now everyone thinks it's A-OK to blow the shit out of Ghaddafi.

The Iraq war was started based on the lie about WMDs.

There's no lie here. Qaddafi is killing innocent civilians and the UN approved action to stop him.
 

JSt0rm

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The Iraq war was started based on the lie about WMDs.

There's no lie here. Qaddafi is killing innocent civilians and the UN approved action to stop him.

I think the problem is that the right wing who post here seem to be the most retarded humans on the planet. This cant be how stupid every republican soldier is.
 

PieIsAwesome

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http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/03/22/jet-reportedly-crash-lands-libya-crew-believed-safe/


Got pretty goddamn lucky on this one. One pilot was recovered by US forces, the other landed in rebel territory and was rescued by the rebels...

Had this plane gone down and the pilots been captured by pro-Government forces, we'd be in a world of shit.

So where is all the complaining about lost money? That F-15 was worth more than those (cheap) 120 cruise missiles fired the other day. The combined cost of the F-15 and missiles is probably at least $130 million. OH NOeS!1

Glad the pilots are safe.

EDIT: Oh wait, nevermind, it seems the F-15E only cost us about $30 million in 1998. That is a pretty damn good bargain.
 
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OutHouse

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So where is all the complaining about lost money? That F-15 was worth more than those (cheap) 120 cruise missiles fired the other day. The combined cost of the F-15 and missiles is probably at least $130 million. OH NOeS!1


Glad the pilots are safe.

Lots of people are bitching about the cost. So whats your point
 

OutHouse

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I think the problem is that the right wing who post here seem to be the most retarded humans on the planet. This cant be how stupid every republican soldier is.

Im not a repug but I am curious to know why you think they are retarded in relation to this topic.
 

BladeVenom

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Are we going to then commit to back militarily any popular protest on the planet?

I'm not saying we should have attacked Libya. Just that Obama should have made his intentions clear earlier, and sought Congressional approval. If he's going to do it, he should have at least done it right.
 

IceBergSLiM

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Do you really believe the Clinton administration and the Democrats made up the whole WMD story? Why?

And don't try to blame Bush. The Democrats started saying Iraq had WMD before Bush was even president. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFBl0fnMUVc

Because the government has a history of lying to get us into wars we don't want to be in . Gulf of Tonkin anyone?

Or are you asking what the ulterior motive is? Oil? Big corporate defense contracts? Expand the control grid? What more reason do you need?
 
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EagleKeeper

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The Iraq war was started based on the lie about WMDs.

There's no lie here. Qaddafi is killing innocent civilians and the UN approved action to stop him.

The UN did not bother getting involved until the tied turned against the rebels and Qaddafi started taking back territory.

People sided with the rebels - they became rebels.

The innocent civilians issue is a cover for the fact that Qaddafi was able to recover and start to hammer at the rebels.

Oops, democracy might not have a start to succeed as it did in tunisia and Egypt.
 

IceBergSLiM

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I'm not saying we should have attacked Libya. Just that Obama should have made his intentions clear earlier, and sought Congressional approval. If he's going to do it, he should have at least done it right.

He is a harvard educated con artist what do you expect?
 

Throckmorton

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The UN did not bother getting involved until the tied turned against the rebels and Qaddafi started taking back territory.

People sided with the rebels - they became rebels.

The innocent civilians issue is a cover for the fact that Qaddafi was able to recover and start to hammer at the rebels.

Oops, democracy might not have a start to succeed as it did in tunisia and Egypt.

Good. As long as we have support from the Arab world, let's side with the popular uprising against the totalitarian dictator.
 

BoberFett

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Good. As long as we have support from the Arab world, let's side with the popular uprising against the totalitarian dictator.

So you support the Iraq war? We had support from Saudi Arabia and toppled a dictator there too.

Or is that bad because a Republican did it?

You lunatic lefties don't even know what you stand for. You're as bad as right wing fanatics, you cheer for whatever your team tells you to cheer for. What a bunch of fucking morons.
 

Throckmorton

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So you support the Iraq war? We had support from Saudi Arabia and toppled a dictator there too.

Or is that bad because a Republican did it?

You lunatic lefties don't even know what you stand for. You're as bad as right wing fanatics, you cheer for whatever your team tells you to cheer for. What a bunch of fucking morons.

I supported the Iraq war because I believed the WMD stuff and because Saddam Hussein needed to be deposed anyway. I support the Iraq "war" now because we're still helping the Iraqis rebuild their country.
 

ericlp

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Do you really believe the Clinton administration and the Democrats made up the whole WMD story? Why?

And don't try to blame Bush. The Democrats started saying Iraq had WMD before Bush was even president. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFBl0fnMUVc


You are a joke right?

there is a fucking difference between GOING to WAR over a Lie, Vs. Just saying they may have them. Bush just needed another excuse to go. That's all. Then he footed the ENTIRE package on the tax payer! GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks man.... Then he fucked around in Iraq for years ... Thanks but no thanks. But when has bush done anything right?
 

BladeVenom

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Bush went to war with congressional approval, most of the Democrats voted for it. So they are just as bad as Bush. Actually they are worse, they wouldn't take responsibility for their vote and made excuses, lied, and engaged in propaganda campaign to blame it all on Bush.

I agree that Bush was an idiot, after all he did listen to and believe the Democrats.
 

OutHouse

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Bush went to war with congressional approval, most of the Democrats voted for it. So they are just as bad as Bush. Actually they are worse, they wouldn't take responsibility for their vote and made excuses, lied, and engaged in propaganda campaign to blame it all on Bush.

I agree that Bush was an idiot, after all he did listen to and believe the Democrats.

This. Funny how dems forget this.
 

Tom

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First of all it was ok to blow the crap out of Saddam, the problem was taking over the country and completely destroying the existing military and police.

So it's ok to blow the crap out of Qaddadifi too.
 

ericlp

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I agree that Bush was an idiot, after all he did listen to and believe the Democrats.


Tell me again what's the difference between the two? You wave a dollar bill in their face and they will both vote to the tune of a green back.