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Law School to Plan Bush War Crimes Prosecution

Press Release: Massachusetts School Of Law

17/06/08 "ICH" -- - A conference to plan the prosecution of President Bush and other high administration officials for war crimes will be held September 13-14 at the Massachusetts School of Law at Andover .

"This is not intended to be a mere discussion of violations of law that have occurred," said convener Lawrence Velvel, dean and cofounder of the school. "It is, rather, intended to be a planning conference at which plans will be laid and necessary organizational structures set up, to pursue the guilty as long as necessary and, if need be, to the ends of the Earth."

"We must try to hold Bush administration leaders accountable in courts of justice," Velvel said. "And we must insist on appropriate punishments, including, if guilt is found, the hangings visited upon top German and Japanese war-criminals in the 1940s."

Velvel said past practice has been to allow U.S. officials responsible for war crimes in Viet Nam and elsewhere to enjoy immunity from prosecution upon leaving office. "President Johnson retired to his Texas ranch and his Defense Secretary Robert McNamara was named to head the World Bank; Richard Nixon retired to San Clemente and his Secretary of State Henry Kissinger was allowed to grow richer and richer," Velvel said.

He noted in the years since the prosecution and punishment of German and Japanese leaders after World War Two those nation's leaders changed their countries' aggressor cultures. One cannot discount contributory cause and effect here, he said.

"For Bush, Richard Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, and John Yoo to spend years in jail or go to the gallows for their crimes would be a powerful lesson to future American leaders," Velvel said.

The conference will take up such issues as the nature of domestic and international crimes committed; which high-level Bush officials, including Federal judges and Members of Congress, are chargeable with war crimes; which foreign and domestic tribunals can be used to prosecute them; and the setting up of an umbrella coordinating committee with representatives of legal groups concerned about the war crimes such as the Center for Constitutional Rights, ACLU, National Lawyers Guild, among others.

The Massachusetts School of Law at Andover was established in 1988 to provide an affordable, quality legal education to minorities, immigrants and students from low-income households that might otherwise be denied the opportunity to obtain a legal education and practice law. Its founder, Dean Velvel, has been honored by the National Law Journal and cited in various publications for his contributions to the reform of legal education
 

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Good -- the more loopy the Marxist left gets the better for Gandpa McMunster. Let Dems push "war crimes trials" along with nationalising industries, ah heck education for kindergarteners, more taxes, no oil production, polar bear laws etc etc. People are stupid but there is a limit.
 

Lemon law

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I think its a good idea and a noble undertaking. Proving war crimes against GWB&co. is almost an easy slam dunk certainty. The rub is whose army plus the law school can force the issue. And any US based prosecutions may run across some blanket pardon that GWB grants to himself and his cronies, its a constitutional power not to be minimized.

Any GWB&co prosecution, IMHO, is more likely to come from the international community, with the venue being the Hague. And that very international community may demand the live body of GWB&co as a down payment for bailing out the USA in any of the messes GWB&co has caused.

One somewhat perfect storm cases may in fact happen if the GWB aids Israel in an attack on Iran.
 

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Originally posted by: Butterbean
Good -- the more loopy the Marxist left gets the better for Gandpa McMunster. Let Dems push "war crimes trials" along with nationalising industries, ah heck education for kindergarteners, more taxes, no oil production, polar bear laws etc etc. People are stupid but there is a limit.

I guess you prefer more empire building and more giving the country over to corporations in a fascist turnaround from the right?
 

Harvey

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YES!!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Butterbean

[Bullshit... blah, blah... bullshit... blah, blah... ]

I guess you prefer more empire building and more giving the country over to corporations in a fascist turnaround from the right?

Please don't feed the trolls. :disgust:
 

Woofmeister

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A meaningless exercise by a complete joke of a law school.

Non-ABA Accedited: check
No LSAT required for admission: check
Non existent notable alumni: check

Says more about the silliness of a law school to be pursuing this kind of circle jerk than anything else.
 

JSt0rm

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Originally posted by: Butterbean
People are stupid but there is a limit.


first of all, this is the truest statement your dim little mind has ever come up with.

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I'm all for this and if we don't start the prosecution until after he is out of office he can't pardon himself. He really can't run, the secret service that guards him works for us. If we say he shows up in court then they will take him. If we say he is guilty they will hold him. If we have him walk to the gallows they will protect him until that last moment. Bring it.
 

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Originally posted by: Butterbean
Good -- the more loopy the Marxist left gets the better for Gandpa McMunster. Let Dems push "war crimes trials" along with nationalising industries, ah heck education for kindergarteners, more taxes, no oil production, polar bear laws etc etc. People are stupid but there is a limit.

Good job Butterbean, I saw you made a post earlier that didn't reference homosexuality and I got a little worried. Glad to see you're back on track.
 

railer

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imagine the good these people might do if they decided to spend their time productively.....oh well, let the "war crimes prosectution" commence! duh.
 

Jeff7

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Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: Butterbean
Good -- the more loopy the Marxist left gets the better for Gandpa McMunster. Let Dems push "war crimes trials" along with nationalising industries, ah heck education for kindergarteners, more taxes, no oil production, polar bear laws etc etc. People are stupid but there is a limit.

I guess you prefer more empire building and more giving the country over to corporations in a fascist turnaround from the right?
Plus, Bush said in 2000 that he wouldn't use the army for nation-building. He said doing so would be a "serious problem," and that he was "going to prevent that."

And just think, they called Kerry a "flip-flopper." :laugh:

 

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Woofmeister

How ironic it would be if the people from what you consider a low end law school should get this done. After all, Bush's people thought it was OK for us to fill the Justice Dept. with grads of a really low end law school.
 

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Originally posted by: Butterbean
Good -- the more loopy the Marxist left gets the better for Gandpa McMunster. Let Dems push "war crimes trials" along with nationalising industries, ah heck education for kindergarteners, more taxes, no oil production, polar bear laws etc etc. People are stupid but there is a limit.

A bit of generalizing, but pretty much spot on. :thumbsup:

That said, I don't want McLame anywhere near the White House.

Let these nutjobs "plan" their "war crimes trials". Might make myself a bucket of popcorn and recline to watch. :laugh:
 

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Originally posted by: jackschmittusa
Woofmeister

How ironic it would be if the people from what you consider a low end law school should get this done. After all, Bush's people thought it was OK for us to fill the Justice Dept. with grads of a really low end law school.

I'm sorry, what are they "getting done?" Last I checked, law schools don't have any power to indict or make criminal referrals to anyone. It's just a bunch of washed out professors from a joke law school sitting cross-legged on the floor complaining about evil Bush.

Pathetic.

Oh, and there's a big difference between unfairly presuming admitted attorneys are unqualified simply because they attended a "low end law school" (by which I assume you mean Regent University which, by the way, is actually ABA accredited) and taking a bullshit law school to task for its own official bullshit activities.

 

ProfJohn

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Originally posted by: Lemon law
I think its a good idea and a noble undertaking. Proving war crimes against GWB&co. is almost an easy slam dunk certainty.
Please name for us some of the 'crimes' that you can lay at Bush's feet.
 

jackschmittusa

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They wouldn't need to be able to indict. If they compile enough verifiable evidence that crimes have been committed; they might be able to make a compelling argument to numerous authorities who do have the power. I could present evidence to my local prosecutor that a local crime was committed and expect him to act.

And Regent University has improved their standing since the mass hirings at the Justice Dept..

Whether or not anything comes of this, I will find it interesting to watch. Especially since I do think that many in the government are guilty of war crimes under both U.S. and international law. If nothing else, it may kill the idea that a war-time president (during an undeclared war) has unlimited power and absolute immunity.
 

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: Lemon law
I think its a good idea and a noble undertaking. Proving war crimes against GWB&co. is almost an easy slam dunk certainty.
Please name for us some of the 'crimes' that you can lay at Bush's feet.

please use the search feature because its been discussed and pointed out many times.
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: OrByte
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: Lemon law
I think its a good idea and a noble undertaking. Proving war crimes against GWB&co. is almost an easy slam dunk certainty.
Please name for us some of the 'crimes' that you can lay at Bush's feet.

please use the search feature because its been discussed and pointed out many times.

PJ's begging for yet another "macro" body slam to the mat. If I post it, he'll just try to dismiss the evidence by accusing me of posting "macros" of the same documented list of crimes he hasn't been able to refute in the past.

It's his usual MO:

1. Post lies and denials.

2. Dismiss the very evidence that refutes his lies and demean those who post it.

3. Post irrelevant distractions and diversions (... "but Clinton..." etc.).

4. Rinse, dry and repeat from the top. :roll:

Poor PJ. What's a lying Bushwhacko sycophant to do when truth, justice and honor just aren't on his side? :p
 

Craig234

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: Lemon law
I think its a good idea and a noble undertaking. Proving war crimes against GWB&co. is almost an easy slam dunk certainty.
Please name for us some of the 'crimes' that you can lay at Bush's feet.

You can read Dennis Kucinich's articles of impeachment, or these.
 

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Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: Lemon law
I think its a good idea and a noble undertaking. Proving war crimes against GWB&co. is almost an easy slam dunk certainty.
Please name for us some of the 'crimes' that you can lay at Bush's feet.

You can read Dennis Kucinich's articles of impeachment, or these.

And we can see what happened with Kucinch's submission to a rabid Democratic overwhelming controlled House.

If given the political hatred and control by the Dems and nothing is being done; it makes you wonder if there is any real teeth or just political pandering and hatred.
The Dems have probably been out manuvered in terms of actually nailing Bush in anything but their wet dreams.

 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: Common Courtesy

And we can see what happened with Kucinch's submission to a rabid Democratic overwhelming controlled House.

That doesn't make Kucinich's charges any less true. It just means that any attempt to act on his articles of impeachment would be stalled by both parties gets in the way of both parties agendas during the election campaign.

Republicans don't want the truth about their Traitor In Chief tied to McSame. Democrats know the matter couldn't be resolved between now and November, and they don't want the distraction impeachment proceedings would impose on other important campaign issues.

Impeachment proceedings could have had some merit if they could have been started when there was time for them to have meaning. If they had been started while Rupublicans still controlled Congress, we may have booted the administration criminals out, stopped their war of lies and saved a few thousand American lives, trillions of dollars and at least some of the reputation of our nation the Bushwhackos have so deeply scarred and tarnished. :(