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Latest NVIDIA Windows Vista Driver News
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"NVIDIA Features Not Implemented Yet
These are features that NVIDIA is currently working on and plan to incorporate in future driver releases.
GeForce 7950 GX2 multi-GPU mode."
Haha...what's the point of a GX2 then??
These are features that NVIDIA is currently working on and plan to incorporate in future driver releases.
GeForce 7950 GX2 multi-GPU mode."
Haha...what's the point of a GX2 then??
To be a single card solutio....oh....wait.....Originally posted by: thilan29
"NVIDIA Features Not Implemented Yet
These are features that NVIDIA is currently working on and plan to incorporate in future driver releases.
GeForce 7950 GX2 multi-GPU mode."
Haha...what's the point of a GX2 then??
:evil:
Originally posted by: josh6079
To be a single card solutio....oh....wait.....Originally posted by: thilan29
"NVIDIA Features Not Implemented Yet
These are features that NVIDIA is currently working on and plan to incorporate in future driver releases.
GeForce 7950 GX2 multi-GPU mode."
Haha...what's the point of a GX2 then??
:evil:
lol. Do you really wanna open up THAT can of worms??
JPB
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Originally posted by: thilan29
Originally posted by: josh6079
To be a single card solutio....oh....wait.....Originally posted by: thilan29
"NVIDIA Features Not Implemented Yet
These are features that NVIDIA is currently working on and plan to incorporate in future driver releases.
GeForce 7950 GX2 multi-GPU mode."
Haha...what's the point of a GX2 then??
:evil:
lol. Do you really wanna open up THAT can of worms??
LMAO
This is what I was thinking also. It's not like the first time they saw Vista was on Jan 30 (or was that a November Vista launch?...I really can never remember.
).I'm glad I'm not using Vista right now....BUT...when an actual DX10 game comes out, NVidia BETTER have a fully functional Vista driver because at that time they have no excuses.
Originally posted by: thilan29
This is what I was thinking also. It's not like the first time they saw Vista was on Jan 30 (or was that a November Vista launch?...I really can never remember.
I'm glad I'm not using Vista right now....BUT...when an actual DX10 game comes out, NVidia BETTER have a fully functional Vista driver because at that time they have no excuses.
The latest release works extremely well and was delivered relatively expediantly considering reports that the nVidia driver package now has more lines of code than Windows NT 4.0 - as long as they're working on improving the drivers, I have no problem with where they stand right now. Just my 2c though, maybe others feel otherwise.
http://au.gamespot.com/features/6154735/index.html?q=vista%20Comptability
By Sarju Shah - Posted on Thursday July 27th, 2006
"We started testing with the GeForce 7900 GTX but quickly switched over to the Radeon X1900 XT after all the crashing games revealed that Nvidia's Vista drivers weren't quite mature enough for live testing. Note that this isn't indicative of Nvidia's final Vista performance levels. The OS is still over a half year away from launch, which gives Nvidia plenty of time to polish up its drivers"
Nvidia has sent more than year developing the driver.
By Sarju Shah - Posted on Thursday July 27th, 2006
"We started testing with the GeForce 7900 GTX but quickly switched over to the Radeon X1900 XT after all the crashing games revealed that Nvidia's Vista drivers weren't quite mature enough for live testing. Note that this isn't indicative of Nvidia's final Vista performance levels. The OS is still over a half year away from launch, which gives Nvidia plenty of time to polish up its drivers"
Nvidia has sent more than year developing the driver.
For once I agree w/ Wreckage.
The G80 driver is as complex as Windows NT4.:Q
Vista is new, and dispite having betas for a long time, nVidia should be given a grace period to develop proper drivers, especially given the fact that the graphics subsystem has been altered so drastically.
Everyone knows that Vista isn't ready for prime time and there will be driver issues. It's the same way with every major OS release.
postmortemIA
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I'm running an nForce 2.:Q
Just give them time. They're saying it's 'unsupported' but I would imagine they'll come out with something once all of their newer products are 'supported' via a driver. :beer:
Paratus
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I disagree with Wreckage.
It's unacceptable that Nv can't get their Vista drivers up to snuff after a year.
It's also unacceptable that ATI can't get their hardware out the door.
Maybe NV and AMD/ATI should join up then we could get new hardware with working drivers on schedule.
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It's unacceptable that Nv can't get their Vista drivers up to snuff after a year.
It's also unacceptable that ATI can't get their hardware out the door.
Maybe NV and AMD/ATI should join up then we could get new hardware with working drivers on schedule.
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After a year? The OS has been out for maybe a month! How can you consider betas 'a year'?Originally posted by: Paratus
I disagree with Wreckage.
It's unacceptable that Nv can't get their Vista drivers up to snuff after a year.
It's also unacceptable that ATI can't get their hardware out the door.
Maybe NV and AMD/ATI should join up then we could get new hardware with working drivers on schedule.
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Your partnership is intriguing. If there weren't so much intellectual property overlap, I would suggest it's feasable. It's also interesting that the roles of the two companies have changed. I remember when ATI used to have *crap* drivers. Their OpenGL drivers still suck to a large extent.
Wreckage
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Originally posted by: Paratus
I disagree with Wreckage.
It's unacceptable that Nv can't get their Vista drivers up to snuff after a year.
It's also unacceptable that ATI can't get their hardware out the door.
Maybe NV and AMD/ATI should join up then we could get new hardware with working drivers on schedule.
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Well then you may not remember the problems many companies had with drivers for W2K, W95, WNT, etc.
The only reason WinXP went ok was that it was just a polished version of Win2k.
Getting the first Direct X 10 drivers out the door has yet to be done by any other company.
postmortemIA
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Originally posted by: Paratus
I disagree with Wreckage.
It's unacceptable that Nv can't get their Vista drivers up to snuff after a year.
It's also unacceptable that ATI can't get their hardware out the door.
Maybe NV and AMD/ATI should join up then we could get new hardware with working drivers on schedule.
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Maybe we need intel to join the game?
You know, everybody praised competition in GFX market, and as result of it we now have combo of unfinished software/hardware due to cut-throat competition.
I agree. Windows 2000 is a polished version of Windows NT4. I remember how hard it was to get drivers for NT4 when it first came out....what an *awesome* OS in its day tho...light years ahead of Windows 95.Originally posted by: Wreckage
Originally posted by: Paratus
I disagree with Wreckage.
It's unacceptable that Nv can't get their Vista drivers up to snuff after a year.
It's also unacceptable that ATI can't get their hardware out the door.
Maybe NV and AMD/ATI should join up then we could get new hardware with working drivers on schedule.
posted via Palm Life Drive
Well then you may not remember the problems many companies had with drivers for W2K, W95, WNT, etc.
The only reason WinXP went ok was that it was just a polished version of Win2k.
Getting the first Direct X 10 drivers out the door has yet to be done by any other company.
"One difference between developing SLI for Windows XP was drastically different than it was for Windows Vista is that the NVIDIA hardware and driver could basically work together to make SLI function without letting the OS know what was going on. This put the entire software stack in NVIDIA?s hand, making it easier to find patches and loop holes to get SLI performance to scale well. Vista?s dramatically changed graphics driver model will no longer turn a blind eye though, and because of it, the amount of driver development time has increased."
"For Windows XP, NVIDIA simply needed to create two main driver components; really two separate drivers. One for DirectX rendering and one for OpenGL rendering. With Vista though, things have changed, and NVIDIA now needs to develop six separate drivers. One for DX9 single card, one for DX9 SLI, one for DX10 single card, one for DX10 SLI, one for OpenGL single card and one for OpenGL SLI modes. While you might just think the move from Windows XP?s DX9 driver to Windows Vista?s DX9 driver should be an easy port, the move to the new driver model changed all of that. Microsoft moved the driver stack into the user space in the operating system, effectively making the graphics driver a part of the external OS instead of the OS kernel. This keeps the kernel much more stable in the long run, but adds another layer of abstraction for NVIDIA?s software to get through before directly accessing the hardware."
"The DirectX 10 driver development has been delayed mainly because of the difficulties in being the first to develop such a piece of software (ATI has no DX10 parts available yet). When software developers like Crytek use new DX10 features in their code and something doesn?t work right, it can start a long and difficult process to find the culprit. Is it the developer?s code and implementation of the new DX10 features? Or is it the NVIDIA driver that is handling the code and executing it incorrectly? Or is it the NVIDIA DX10 driver interacting with the new driver layer of Vista? For each issue that arises, the NVIDIA team needs to look at all three options often doing much of the work themselves as part of their ?The Way It?s Meant to Be Played? initiative."
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"For Windows XP, NVIDIA simply needed to create two main driver components; really two separate drivers. One for DirectX rendering and one for OpenGL rendering. With Vista though, things have changed, and NVIDIA now needs to develop six separate drivers. One for DX9 single card, one for DX9 SLI, one for DX10 single card, one for DX10 SLI, one for OpenGL single card and one for OpenGL SLI modes. While you might just think the move from Windows XP?s DX9 driver to Windows Vista?s DX9 driver should be an easy port, the move to the new driver model changed all of that. Microsoft moved the driver stack into the user space in the operating system, effectively making the graphics driver a part of the external OS instead of the OS kernel. This keeps the kernel much more stable in the long run, but adds another layer of abstraction for NVIDIA?s software to get through before directly accessing the hardware."
"The DirectX 10 driver development has been delayed mainly because of the difficulties in being the first to develop such a piece of software (ATI has no DX10 parts available yet). When software developers like Crytek use new DX10 features in their code and something doesn?t work right, it can start a long and difficult process to find the culprit. Is it the developer?s code and implementation of the new DX10 features? Or is it the NVIDIA driver that is handling the code and executing it incorrectly? Or is it the NVIDIA DX10 driver interacting with the new driver layer of Vista? For each issue that arises, the NVIDIA team needs to look at all three options often doing much of the work themselves as part of their ?The Way It?s Meant to Be Played? initiative."
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CaiNaM, while I do think NV's explanation makes sense to an extent, it's true at the same time that we don't hear such excuses from AMD. And I'd take anything NV says (in PR) as a grain of salt. (unlike what their CEOs say in stock holders' meeting)
The thing is, in my opinion NV's programmers are somewhat better than AMD's and they should have better drivers out than current ones at this time. How a company's resources are used are very much dependent on market competition. Who knows? Maybe half of NV engineers are relocated to CPU projects? (It's a pure imagination but you get the point)
The thing is, in my opinion NV's programmers are somewhat better than AMD's and they should have better drivers out than current ones at this time. How a company's resources are used are very much dependent on market competition. Who knows? Maybe half of NV engineers are relocated to CPU projects? (It's a pure imagination but you get the point)
Aikouka
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I got more annoyed when I uninstalled my old nVidia drivers the other day and my computer just went to a black screen and refused to do anything >_>. Well, I did just hit the ol' power button and it shut off, but still annoying because Vista takes 2 damn minutes to start (thank god they made it so you can constantly postpone Window's Update restarts and it won't try to auto-restart on you).
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