Latest in the petty touchscreen superiority dispute

dlock13

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It is pretty interesting that these screens aren't that accurate. Honestly, it's a big surprising considering how many people own this device and don't really complain about it.
 

dawheat

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I don't see the results for the IP4S, but I do recall having some minor frustration with the letters p and q, though overall the keyboard was quite user friendly so the 'innacuracy' can't be bad or the software accounts for it somehow.
 

Zaap

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It is pretty interesting that these screens aren't that accurate. Honestly, it's a big surprising considering how many people own this device and don't really complain about it.
It's just another of those things that no one really notices in real world use, or really cares about beyond some obscure test result in a lab.

I guess some people get either an ego bruise or bump from stuff like this, but I can't imagine really giving a flip. If something works well for you and you prefer it, who cares what some test result says? Exactly why I've never placed much stock in all the ridiculous nitpicking that goes on over these devices. It always goes back and forth and doesn't end up making much difference in real world usage.
 

hanoverphist

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my razr maxx had issues on both sides of the keyboard. i thought it was just me fat fingering it, buteven after changing the keyboard and customizing the sizes i found it would mistype even when i was paying attention to detail and where i pressed. the s4 hasnt had the same issues yet, if i miss its been because im not paying attention and/or not looking
 

SlitheryDee

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Huh. Link doesn't work for me.

I've always seemed to have better accuracy in general usage on Apple touch devices than on android though. It's anecdotal, but that's been my experience. I wonder if Apple is using software tricks to mask inaccuracies in their touchscreens. In any case, they don't seem to suffer much from it even if the linked article is right.
 

bearxor

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That's pretty neat testing methodology. By looking at these pictures, it looks like the define a circle on the screen and then test how far away from the middle of the circle the touch is. So, with these images reflecting this:
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The SGS3 would not only have more accurate area than the iPhone 5S, but the accuracy of the areas that are "accurate" is also far greater.

Pretty neat!

Edit: Although, looking at the pattern on the iPhone with how the touch points begin to spread out, I can't help but wonder a little bit if this touch pattern is intentional on Apple's part.
 
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QueBert

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I will say even with it's smaller screen and me having fat fingers I type far more accurate on the iPhone keyboard. I always attributed this to the software being superior though. I can't type for shit on my HTC One, I'm revising at least 15% of everything I text, on my iPhone 4 making an error while texting is super rare.
 

gorcorps

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It's just another of those things that no one really notices in real world use, or really cares about beyond some obscure test result in a lab.

Bingo

I think it was the first version of ICS that I put on my SGS2 that screwed with the screen. It's like the swiping function was completely screwed up or something, I couldn't remember. I went back to what I was using and it was better. Just shows (to me anyway) that what's going on in the software is way more important than the screen itself. Most people don't notice or care.
 
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Bingo

I think it was the first version of ICS that I put on my SGS2 that screwed with the screen. It's like the swiping function was completely screwed up or something, I couldn't remember. I went back to what I was using and it was better. Just shows (to me anyway) that what's going on in the software is way more important than the screen itself. Most people don't notice or care.

Was it the stuttery scroll? Or the jittery scroll rather. If you scrolled up and down and then stopped to leave your finger in place, the scroll position would jump up and down still? I think it's mostly gone as of 4.3, but it's not perfect (I just installed CM 10.2 on my GS2 last weekend for fun)
 
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LOL how ironic.

I conclude your ego has been hurt.

No. The thing is you pop up on these kind of anti-Apple threads just to laugh at Apple, while offering zero insight in this issue. Did you see me in the touchscreen latency thread jumping up and down firing confetti into the air? No.

My take on this is that it might be true, but we should understand the real world implications. The iOS keyboard has won praise since day 1. It's one of the best at typing in that it picks up the inputs correctly and has great autocorrection. If this is a huge issue, then we should see a lot of complaints about the keyboard.

On the other hand touchscreen latency has been a problem in Android since day 1. It's what spawns the "unresponsive" comments regarding Android.
 

Oyeve

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Was it the stuttery scroll? Or the jittery scroll rather. If you scrolled up and down and then stopped to leave your finger in place, the scroll position would jump up and down still? I think it's mostly gone as of 4.3, but it's not perfect (I just installed CM 10.2 on my GS2 last weekend for fun)

No. The thing is you pop up on these kind of anti-Apple threads just to laugh at Apple, while offering zero insight in this issue. Did you see me in the touchscreen latency thread jumping up and down firing confetti into the air? No.

My take on this is that it might be true, but we should understand the real world implications. The iOS keyboard has won praise since day 1. It's one of the best at typing in that it picks up the inputs correctly and has great autocorrection. If this is a huge issue, then we should see a lot of complaints about the keyboard.

On the other hand touchscreen latency has been a problem in Android since day 1. It's what spawns the "unresponsive" comments regarding Android.

Spade?

No. The thing is you pop up on these kind of anti-Apple threads just to laugh at Apple, while offering zero insight in this issue. Did you see me in the touchscreen latency thread jumping up and down firing confetti into the air? No.

My take on this is that it might be true, but we should understand the real world implications. The iOS keyboard has won praise since day 1. It's one of the best at typing in that it picks up the inputs correctly and has great autocorrection. If this is a huge issue, then we should see a lot of complaints about the keyboard.

On the other hand touchscreen latency has been a problem in Android since day 1. It's what spawns the "unresponsive" comments regarding Android.

Apple people dont complain when their shit is broke or proven inferior. They only put down android when ever they can. You being their spokesperson should know this.
 
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Chrono

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Could explain why when I was playing Plants vs Zombie 2 on my 5s there were times it wouldn't recognize my finger on the plant I was selecting. It's pretty fuckin' annoying. Keyboard is fairly accurate though.
 

openwheel

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No. The thing is you pop up on these kind of anti-Apple threads just to laugh at Apple, while offering zero insight in this issue. Did you see me in the touchscreen latency thread jumping up and down firing confetti into the air? No.

My take on this is that it might be true, but we should understand the real world implications. The iOS keyboard has won praise since day 1. It's one of the best at typing in that it picks up the inputs correctly and has great autocorrection. If this is a huge issue, then we should see a lot of complaints about the keyboard.

On the other hand touchscreen latency has been a problem in Android since day 1. It's what spawns the "unresponsive" comments regarding Android.

I think you are just butt hurt. Relax a little young man. It's not the end of the World. Apple still makes great phones.
 

dlock13

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Could explain why when I was playing Plants vs Zombie 2 on my 5s there were times it wouldn't recognize my finger on the plant I was selecting. It's pretty fuckin' annoying. Keyboard is fairly accurate though.

The keyboard is accurate because iOS has fine tuned and optimized the software so extremely well.

I can't account for PvZ2 though.
 

saratoga172

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Could explain why when I was playing Plants vs Zombie 2 on my 5s there were times it wouldn't recognize my finger on the plant I was selecting. It's pretty fuckin' annoying. Keyboard is fairly accurate though.

I've on occasion had apps where it seems the touch is slightly off near or around the edges of iPhones I've had. Usually random and rare if/when it occurs.

As for everyone else's comments about the keyboard. I find the iPhone keyboard to be far more accurate than the Android keyboard. This is my own personal experience and could be because my first smartphone was an iPhone 3gs. I had a gnex for a year and it worked well, but I couldn't type for shit on that keyboard. I used swype which was pretty accurate, but typing like a normal phone was hard for me.

I've often wondered if it was just that Apple has optimized the software used for the keyboard in such a way it knows/mitigates the touches when they are slightly off. Interesting to see what they've found, but real world use for me hasn't been bad. Maybe the impreciseness is what makes the type work so well? Our fingers have been trained to be near the letter rather than precisely on it that when going to a device that is much more precise we can't afford to use it the same way.

Something I've thought about.
 

saratoga172

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ouch!!! That's going to hurt some egos.

You're funny. I really don't think this hurts many egos. Fact of the matter is for me the iPhone has been a superior experience in day to day use compared the Andoid phones I've had. Had I started on an Android device before an iPhone I may have a different sentiment, but that's not the case.

People like you making dumb comments like these are why threads get so derailed and everyone resorts to calling fanboyism.
 

foghorn67

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DeLeRium essentially typed 7 paragraphs of nothing. Presumably, this thread is an interesting yet tongue in cheek and ribbing reply to the screen input response time thread.

I don't know anybody taking this seriously or if anyone is thinking this will stick it Apple.
 

thedosbox

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I suspect many people find touching themselves generates more of a response than touching a smartphone.