Last chance for your 69x0 predictions! Disclaimer:Lets make thing up ITT

[OCGuy]

You mean like how the GTX580 is still a few percent slower than a 5970?

The GTX580 *might* be Nvidia's highest end part (unless they do make a dual GF114 part). On the other hand we all know that the 6970 will be the second fastest AMD card.

True, it could shape up that way again.

But if nV can manage two chips on one PCB, they may take back the single-card crown.

 

[Teizo]

Charlie has new information at SA.
Its so off the wall, its crazy even for him. Whats sad, is MANY don't even get he is being beyond sarcastic. They just have latched on to hating one gpu maker and loving another ?
http://www.semiaccurate.com/2010/12/13/secret-amd-6900s-second-switch/

Isn't the 6970 going to come with dual bios? I imagine that is what that switch is. Rather than depend on software to OC the gpu, offer an easier way to flash the bios and up the clocks from there, and maybe some shaders too, to enable a performance increase, and if things go wrong, just flip the switch back and clear the settings.

Maybe AMD couldn't ship the card like they wanted to by default, so rather than just give up the settings, offer customers a way to enable it themselves (with some sort of prior warning about stability and power usage before doing so reliquishing them of the responsibility of supporting it if things go wrong).

 

[felang]

My predictions:

1) nVidia fanboys will point out that the GTX580 is faster than the 6970 in the majority of tests, ignoring the price difference between the two cards.
2) AMD fanboys will point to the 1 test that shows the 6970 is marginally faster than the GTX580 and champion it as proof that they've "won". Also, they will have shed their tree hugging ways no longer care about TDP.
3) "Someone" will post another thread detailing the slight IQ difference in 4 year old games that you can only see on a 40" monitor with the game paused and zoomed in 120%.
4) Idontcare will give me a warning for #3 because he considers it a personal attack.
5) About 6 posters will account for 85% of the posts in the review thread.
6) A "Why the 6950 was right for me!" thread will appear within 2 weeks, followed 2 weeks later by a "Why the GTX560 was right me!".
7) HAWX 2 will still suck.

You sir are a Genius! Agree completely...

 

[Skurge]

Isn't the 6970 going to come with dual bios? I imagine that is what that switch is. Rather than depend on software to OC the gpu, offer an easier way to flash the bios and up the clocks from there, and maybe some shaders too, to enable a performance increase, and if things go wrong, just flip the switch back and clear the settings.

Maybe AMD couldn't ship the card like they wanted to by default, so rather than just give up the settings, offer customers a way to enable it themselves (with some sort of prior warning about stability and power usage before doing so reliquishing them of the responsibility of supporting it if things go wrong).

I thought the other bios fixes cold booting for extreme cooling and overclocking or something.

 

[SlowSpyder]

My prediction is that the 6970 is faster than the 570 by a bit and slower than the 580 by a bit. Just a guess really.

 

[Nemesis 1]

1) Crossfire isn't a sure hit...neither is its FPS fluxtuations.
2) You do some reading up, there was a nice piece on Anand that included cutting stuff out...sideport was one of the things, sacrifcied on the tree-hugger mentality...

I think Nv fanbois will use fluxuation as the new but the drivers suck anyway . Slogan .

 

[chewietobbacca]

580 faster than 6970, 6970 close but still 2nd place, 570 behind it, and 6950 behind it

6970 at $400 launch, 6950 at $300 launch

6970 will suck at synthetics compared to the 580/570, but will be higher in gaming - so if you split the average into synthetics vs. games, you could see a difference

edit: also drivers tested will not be 8.790 in all likelihood

 

[-Slacker-]

Meh ...

580 >~ 6970 (overall a bit faster but trade blows)
570 =~ 6950 (neck and neck)

 

[gilljoy]

there up on http://www.overclockers.co.uk/produc...=56&subid=1752


the 6950 looks quite a good price gona get one lol

 

[Wreckage]

8) In a stunning turn of events, Wreckage will be hired on as the new Executive Director of AMD Graphics Division.
8a) Wreckage takes out huge fire insurance policy.
9) In a stunning turn of events, the AMD Graphics Division burns to the ground after a series of fiery explosions.
10) Wreckage disappears to his hidden fortress beneath Lake Baikal in Siberia with Megan Fox and Hayden Panettiere

Fixed :biggrin:

 

[Phynaz]

Hayden Panettiere?

Yuck

 

[RussianSensation]

HD6970 will win in F1 2010, BF:BC2, Crysis Warhead, lose in games with heavy tessellation/DX11 games like Lost Planet 2, Metro 2033, Hawx 2 and Dirt 2.

I am going with average performance at 1920x1200 4AA: 580 > 6970 > 570 > 6950 > 470. I think HD6970 may have a slight advantage at 2560x1600 8AA.

AMD will undercut the pricing of both the 580 and 570 but be within 5-10% of them. HD6950 will be a great overclocker just like the HD6850 is, making it the new price/performance king of all videocards out (unless of course NV decides to lower prices). That's my prediction.

I am interested to see if AMD will drop prices on HD6850/70 cards.

HD6950 $299
HD6970 $369

 

[Grooveriding]

Card disappoints me in not being faster than a 580. It was not a huge leap to make for AMD, but looks like AMD prefers to make smaller more efficient dies than nvidia and hold the performance crown with their dual-gpu cards. Kind of disappointing. These new cards only look to beat the 580 in 3 monitor gaming which is very niche.

The cards are cheap though and are going to force heavy NV price cuts on the 580 most likely.

Looking forward to seeing 6970 Tri & Quad Crossfire, 6990/6970 Tri Crossfire, and 6990x2 Quad Crossfire. If pricing is right they may be nice for the high end and outperform 580 Tri-SLI. About the only thing I see being a worthy upgrade until 28nm cards from 480SLI is some sort of Quadfire of AMD's cards, that or pickup another 480 for $200, but then I'd need a new powersupply :/

 

[Wreckage]

Hayden Panettiere?

Yuck

You might want to check the image quality setting on your video card.

http://www.theworldsbestever.com/2007/11/19/hayden-panettiere-gq.jpg

 

[bryanW1995]

I don't mind the celts but the Heat winning would be awesome


<---- D.wade fan.

ok now YOU are dead to ME. true story, wade gave his '06 nba championship ring to salvatore.

 

[bryanW1995]

You are new here. Solofly was once one of the biggest ATI fans on this forum. Rabid even.

I don't remember that time, but in general it is true that the converts are the most devout.

Were you a matrox fan?

Charlie has new information at SA.
Its so off the wall, its crazy even for him. Whats sad, is MANY don't even get he is being beyond sarcastic. They just have latched on to hating one gpu maker and loving another ?
http://www.semiaccurate.com/2010/12/13/secret-amd-6900s-second-switch/

awesome. THIS is what charlie is good at, much better than fud/bsn imho.

 

[Wreckage]

I don't remember that time, but in general it is true that the converts are the most devout.

Were you a matrox fan?

3DFX actually.

 

[shangshang]

I'm buying NV for stability. Sorry AMD but you lost me since the 4850.

 

[Gloomy]

I just switched from an ATi laptop to an Nvidia laptop and it's... :|... the same...

I guess it has driver-based AO options that give better performance than game-based ones... but honestly, that's really the only difference... and I'd trade that for MorphAA anyday tbh.

:|

You guys exaggerate far too much.

 

[Dark Shroud]

I just switched from an ATi laptop to an Nvidia laptop and it's... :|... the same...

I guess it has driver-based AO options that give better performance than game-based ones... but honestly, that's really the only difference... and I'd trade that for MorphAA anyday tbh.

:|

You guys exaggerate far too much.

If you actually look at the numbers AMD has taken the lead with laptop market share. Heat & cost are two big factors with that. AMD's market share is only going to grow when their APUs land.

 

[SlowSpyder]

I'm buying NV for stability. Sorry AMD but you lost me since the 4850.

Anytime someone hints towards AMD having stability or driver problems I thnk of Nvidia's 196.75 WHQL drivers (the ones that killed cards).

 

[OCGuy]

This launch is slightly less boring than the 6870. Performance that you could obtain by overclocking a 480 months ago...

 

[Gloomy]

If you actually look at the numbers AMD has taken the lead with laptop market share. Heat & cost are two big factors with that. AMD's market share is only going to grow when their APUs land.

I know that. I was just talking about how very much alike the two companies are in terms of user experience. It's the same, I wouldn't even notice if it wasn't for the fact that it says Nvidia instead of ATi when I right-click my desktop.

And for the record, my 445m idle and load temps are the same as my old M5730's temps, so I don't see why the temp argument comes from. I mean, we just started getting fermi-based mobility GPUs a little while ago (which is sad, really)... so I don't see why it's been around for so long.

 

[RussianSensation]

This launch is slightly less boring than the 6870. Performance that you could obtain by overclocking a 480 months ago...

If HD6970 is ~ $370-400, and delivers performance > GTX480, we just got a card which is $100+ cheaper, quieter, cooler and consumes less power. That's actually pretty good. $229-250 HD6870, on the other hand, was a total failure in light of $185-200 factory pre-overclocked GTX460s. NV really needs GTX560 because the gap between a $230-240 GTX470 and $350 GTX570 is too large.

The rumours of HD6970 being 30-40&#37; faster than GTX580 and even more outrageous claims of "R300 vs. 5800" like 2x performance increase over 580 in DX11 made this launch exciting!!

 

[Unkle_Tar]

This launch is slightly less boring than the 6870. Performance that you could obtain by overclocking a 480 months ago...

why didn't you make that comparison when the 580 launched?