Laser toner

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Lifer
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I picked Up a used Laser jet 5M and I need to get a toner cart.

I can get a Office depot brandone for bout 71 - 15 dollar coupon or I can get a generic for about 45 shipped.

Which do people use and is there anyissues with getting the generic?
 

MDE

Lifer
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I'm curious too, my Dad just got a new Samsung laser and he'll need toner in a couple weeks.
 

DaveSimmons

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It takes me a long time to print 3,000-4,000 pages, so I buy the manufacturer's own carts.
 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
It takes me a long time to print 3,000-4,000 pages, so I buy the manufacturer's own carts.

At $100 bucks for a printer I boughht for $30 I will pass;)

I know that my company uses the office depot one ans we don't have any issues that I am aware of. I am leaning twoards that BUT then again the CHEAP generics are really cheap :D
 

Yanagi

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They are chap for a reason. I work at Xerox technical support and support laser printers, multifunctional machine etc. And while generic will probably work fine its not worth the risk IMO. It may work for a while and after some time you may have some issues due to the generic toner. I know this is a huge issue on solid ink machines like the Phaser series while using counterfeit ink, the print head on the machine fails after a while just because the solid ink is blocking the jet streams.

Stick to brand name, it'll be worth it.
 
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I have an OLD HP Series II, and have used HP cartridges, third-party cartridges and remanufactured cartridges. The only problem I had was with a remanufactured cartridge. The risk with remanufactured or third-party (especially if from the Shifting Sands of Omaha Toner Cartridge Company) is that it will cause you fits after a short while. I've not seen them do any real damage to the printer, mostly aggravation to the user. I guess they could

If you get a remanufactured or third-party cartridge that works out, keep the name/web site of that company filed away.

As a general rule, if it seems to be too cheap to be true, it probably is.
 

Mermaidman

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can't tell the difference in performance between store brand and OEM, so I just buy store brand even though my company pays for
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wseyller

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I am an expert in the electrophotographic process is laser cartridges. The quality of recycled laser cartridges just depends on the company that makes them. Some do a really bad job and are called Drill and Fill by the industry applying that they only replace the toner with who knows what kind of toner. Then you got some that do change all the components with new or recoated products but don't chose a good combination. Cartridge components have to be compatible. It they use a bad combination its probably because they don't run ASTM (standardized test methods) which you have to get certified. There are only about 150 companys in the International Technology Council that are certified and trying to get more. Most remanufacturers are apart of ITC but do not get certified. The ones that do this testing know what they are doing. They know what their average densities are (how dark the prints are basically), the estimated yield, and many others facts that most consumers don't care about such as transfer efficiency, background, and standard deivation of densities. All they test are benchmarked to an OEM ran on the same printer.

If you want to see if a remanufacture produces high quality cartridge, make sure that they test using ASTM 1856(Toner Usage) and ASTM 2036(Density requirements). Test should have a recent test done with your cartridge model. Not one that was done 2 years ago as the test is required to be dated. The test should show what components they used, what their page yield was based on a standard 5% coverage and density at the least.


List of companies that are certified to test under ASTM F 1856 and ASTM F 2036 Standards. Most of these companies are remanufacturers of toner cartridges, and a few are companies that produce or sell aftermarket laser cartridge components.
http://www.i-itc.org/stmcommittee.htm