Largest Israeli strike on Gaza just days after truce with Hamas ends

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Israeli F-16 bombers have pounded key targets across the Gaza Strip, killing at least 195 people, medics say.

Gaza officials and the Hamas militant group said more than 300 others were hurt as missiles hit security compounds and militant bases.

The strikes, the most intense Israeli attacks on Gaza for decades, come days after a truce with Hamas expired.

Israel said it was responding to an escalation in rocket attacks from Gaza and would bomb "as long as necessary".

Israeli Defence Minister Ehud Barak said "it won't be easy and it won't be short".

"There is a time for calm and a time for fighting, and now the time has come to fight," he said, quoted by Reuters.
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Palestinian militants frequently fire rockets against Israeli towns from inside the Gaza Strip; large numbers of rocket and mortar shells have been fired at Israel in recent days.

In a statement, Israel's military said it targeted "Hamas terror operatives" as well as training camps and weapons storage warehouses.

A Hamas police spokesman, Islam Shahwan, said one of the raids targeted a police compound in Gaza City where a graduation ceremony for new personnel was taking place.

At least a dozen bodies of men in black uniforms were photographed at the Hamas police headquarters in Gaza City.

Israel's Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni defended the air raids, saying Israel had "no choice". "We're doing what we need to do to defend our citizens," she said in a television broadcast.

Israel hit targets across Gaza, striking in the territory's main population centres, including Gaza City in the north and the southern towns of Khan Younis and Rafah.

In the West Bank, Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas - whose Fatah faction was ousted from Gaza by Hamas in 2007 - condemned the attacks and called for restraint.

But Hamas quickly vowed to carry out revenge attacks on Israel in response to the air strikes, firing Qassam rockets into Israeli territory as an immediate reply.

At least one Israeli was killed by a rocket strike in the town of Netivot, doctors said.

"Hamas will continue the resistance until the last drop of blood," spokesman Fawzi Barhoum was reported as saying.

Israel also stood firm, saying operations "will continue, will be expanded, and will deepen if necessary".

It is the worst attack in Gaza since 1967 in terms of the number of Palestinian casualties, a senior analyst told the BBC in Jerusalem.

The air strikes come amid rumours that an Israeli ground operation is imminent.

Calls for ceasefire

International reaction was swift and expressed concern, with many world leaders calling for calm and an immediate ceasefire.
Palestinians flee the scene of an air strike in Rafah
Civilians were caught up in the air strikes in heavily-populated Gaza

A White House spokesman said the United States "urges Israel to avoid civilian casualties as it targets Hamas in Gaza".

"Hamas' continued rocket attacks into Israel must cease if the violence is to stop," the spokesman, Gordon Johndroe, added.

The UK Foreign Office said: "We urge maximum restraint to avoid further civilian casualties."

The French presidency of the EU meanwhile called for an immediate halt to the shooting by both sides.

At least 30 missiles were fired by F-16 fighter bombers. Israel's Haaretz newspaper reported that some 60 warplanes took part in the first wave of air strikes.

Hamas said all of its security compounds in Gaza were destroyed by the air strikes, which Israel said hit some 40 targets across the territory.

Mosques issued urgent appeals for people to donate blood and Hamas sources told the BBC's Rushdi Abou Alouf in Gaza that hospitals were soon full.

Egypt opened its border crossing to the Gaza Strip at Rafah to absorb and treat some of those injured in the south of the territory.

Most of the dead and injured were said to be in Gaza City, where Hamas's main security compound was destroyed. The head of Gaza's police forces, Tawfik Jaber, was reportedly among those killed.

A resident describes the attacks in Gaza

Images from the targeted areas showed dead and injured Palestinians, burning and destroyed buildings, and scenes of panic and chaos on Gaza's crowded streets.

Residents spoke of children heading to and from school at the time of the attacks, and there were fears of civilian casualties.

Reuters news agency said at least 20 people were thought to have died in Khan Younis.

Israeli security officials have been briefing about the possibility of a new offensive into Gaza for some days now, says the BBC's Paul Wood, in Jerusalem.

But most reports centred on the possibility of a ground offensive, and Prime Minister Ehud Olmert was not expected to authorise any operation until Sunday at the earliest.

Although a six-month truce between Hamas and Israel was agreed earlier this year, it was regularly under strain and was allowed to lapse when it expired this month.

Hamas blamed Israel for the end of the ceasefire, saying it had not respected its terms, including the lifting of the blockade under which little more than humanitarian aid has been allowed into Gaza.

Israel said it initially began a staged easing of the blockade, but this was halted when Hamas failed to fulfil what Israel says were agreed conditions, including ending all rocket fire and halting weapons smuggling.

Israel says the blockade - in place since Hamas took control of Gaza in June 2007 - is needed to isolate Hamas and stop it and other militants from firing rockets across the border at Israeli towns.

If anyone expected Israel not to react to the rocket attacks that have plagued their cities near Gaza in the past years then they were oblivious. This has been coming for a long time, and hopefully Israel can continue with as little civilian casualties as possible
 

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Need to add opinion to the OP

Here is mine;

Good, I am glad and I hope it continues on this scale till it is a very lethal idea to join Hamas and people would rather put there weapons down than join Hamas in some glorified war. Bitch all you want that violence does not solve violence but history is paved with examples to the contrary, as long as Israel does not hold back in its hunt for this scum there can and will be peace.
 

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Originally posted by: RichardE
Good, I am glad and I hope it continues on this scale till it is a very lethal idea to join Hamas and people would rather put there weapons down than join Hamas in some glorified war. Bitch all you want that violence does not solve violence but history is paved with examples to the contrary, as long as Israel does not hold back in its hunt for this scum there can and will be peace.

I agree.
 

ProfJohn

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Sorta reminds me of the story about the guys who teased that tiger that then jumped out of its pen and killed one of them.

The whole goal of Hamas is to provoke Israel and then play the victim after an attack like this. The good news is that the world is less and less willing to put up with Hamas and its tactics.
 

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I'm sure the little kids who were injured or killed will definitely learn their lessons.
 

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Originally posted by: mrCide
I'm sure the little kids who were injured or killed will definitely learn their lessons.

As long as its Jewish kids its ok right?

Or maybe since you enjoy equality so much Israel can just launch attacks en masse on civillian populations trying to kill as many people as possible?

I never see you defending the Israel children and woman and man dying to rockets.
 

Jaskalas

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Let it be made clear, if you attack Israel then you will die. This is what firing rockets into it will get you.

As far as I?m concerned they can destroy/retake all of Gaza. It is perfectly clear that I am not on the side of our common enemy. I can?t say the same of others here at P&N who decry all measures taken against Islamic terrorist organizations.
 

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Obama needs to appoint the leaders of Israel to help run the U.S.
Israel is never wrong according to the same people who continue to post in these kind of threads.

 

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Obama needs to appoint the leaders of Israel to help run the U.S.
Israel is never wrong according to the same people who continue to post in these kind of threads.

Israel is always wrong according to the same scum that posts in these threads. Would you rather the Palestinian people rise above there oppressors and we can see a Palestinian utopia where everyone is treated equally? I'm sure that would happen right? :)
 

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Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: Aimster
Obama needs to appoint the leaders of Israel to help run the U.S.
Israel is never wrong according to the same people who continue to post in these kind of threads.

Israel is always wrong according to the same scum that posts in these threads. Would you rather the Palestinian people rise above there oppressors and we can see a Palestinian utopia where everyone is treated equally? I'm sure that would happen right? :)

I didn't say Israel was right or wrong.
You get too excited when you open Israel threads. You jump at anyone who doesn't have a sentence of "good for Israel" in it.
Calm down.

I don't give a shit for Israel or the Palestinians. They both act the same.
 

mrCide

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Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: mrCide
I'm sure the little kids who were injured or killed will definitely learn their lessons.

As long as its Jewish kids its ok right?

Or maybe since you enjoy equality so much Israel can just launch attacks en masse on civillian populations trying to kill as many people as possible?

I never see you defending the Israel children and woman and man dying to rockets.

You're an idiot. I shit on anyone who praises any of these things, be it one side or another, but you're the apologist, you're the blind one, you're the 'scum.' Just an FYI.
 

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Originally posted by: mrCide
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: mrCide
I'm sure the little kids who were injured or killed will definitely learn their lessons.

As long as its Jewish kids its ok right?

Or maybe since you enjoy equality so much Israel can just launch attacks en masse on civillian populations trying to kill as many people as possible?

I never see you defending the Israel children and woman and man dying to rockets.

You're an idiot. I shit on anyone who praises any of these things, be it one side or another, but you're the apologist, you're the blind one, you're the 'scum.' Just an FYI.

We have a 7 page thread about the atrocities of Hamas, shooting rockets into clearly civil population. Did you ever bother condemning their actions? They have been warned for quite some time.

 

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Maybe if I lived on this forum, sure. When I stop by sometimes and catch a thread where people are happy about this nonsense I'm going to make it a point to show them what animals they are.
 

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Palestinians kill Israelis.
Israelis kill Palestinians.
Palestinians kill Israelis.
Israelis kill Palestinians.
Palestinians kill Israelis.
Israelis kill Palestinians.
Palestinians kill Israelis.
Israelis kill Palestinians.
Palestinians kill Israelis.
Israelis kill Palestinians.
Palestinians kill Israelis.
Israelis kill Palestinians.
Palestinians kill Israelis.
Israelis kill Palestinians.
Palestinians kill Israelis.
Israelis kill Palestinians.
Palestinians kill Israelis.
Israelis kill Palestinians.
Palestinians kill Israelis.
Israelis kill Palestinians.

The sun rises in the east.
The sun sets in the west.
 

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Originally posted by: TheRedUnderURBed
Originally posted by: SamurAchzar

So what is your plan to stop the Palastenians? Gas em?

Israelis thought for quite some time that the retreat and separation would make things quiet, but Hamas just resorted to rockets, that obviously go above fences.

The solution is simple: The Palestinians should accept defeat and come to the table from that position. I'm sure that if the Palestinians say "we lost the struggle, lets go to negotiations" no one would deny that from them. Israel would have no choice but to comply with that, under international pressure.

As long as they think they can solve this conflict with force, nothing good will happen for both sides. Unfortunately, as they are getting more and more into radical Islam (Hamas isn't far off Al-Qaeda in terms of agenda and the people who run it), the more likely they are to escalate the violence.

Trying to militarily force a reality on Israel is stupid at best - which country succeeded in that? What sort of leaders put the life of their population on the line like that anyway? Even EGYPT (yes, Arabs) said, after the recent attacks on Gaza, that Hamas should accept responsibility for getting things to where they are, that they have been warned and ignored that :roll:

The Israeli public is looking for a chance to give them their own country and tell them to fuck off, but Israel can't accept another Lebanon forming in the south, with a declared terrorist organization at the helm.

 

Aimster

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Palestinians never started a war for them to be defeated. They were nothing and are still nothing.

They were the Arabs slaves and the Arabs threw them out after they stopped fighting with the Israelis.

Now they are the M.E trash that nobody wants.
 

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Palestinians never started a war for them to be defeated. They were nothing and are still nothing.

They were the Arabs slaves and the Arabs threw them out after they stopped fighting with the Israelis.

Now they are the M.E trash that nobody wants.

Yep, as someone in ties with the middle east, you know that just as well as I do and people around here don't realize. Egypt doesn't want them, Jordan doesn't want them. Black September

Unfortunately, only Arabs know how to deal with other Arabs.

 
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Originally posted by: TheRedUnderURBed
Originally posted by: SamurAchzar

So what is your plan to stop the Palastenians? Gas em?

Give them an ultimatum to stop hostilities or face the consequences. That is an end to ALL hostilities, not this "we are not in control over what people do" bullsheit.

Don't like it, well tough tits, that's the way it is.
 

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Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: TheRedUnderURBed
Originally posted by: SamurAchzar

So what is your plan to stop the Palastenians? Gas em?

Give them an ultimatum to stop hostilities or face the consequences. That is an end to ALL hostilities, not this "we are not in control over what people do" bullsheit.

Don't like it, well tough tits, that's the way it is.

And this is why they will never stop fighting.
Oh well, keep you guys employed aye mate?
 

SamurAchzar

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Originally posted by: TheRedUnderURBed
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: TheRedUnderURBed
Originally posted by: SamurAchzar

So what is your plan to stop the Palastenians? Gas em?

Give them an ultimatum to stop hostilities or face the consequences. That is an end to ALL hostilities, not this "we are not in control over what people do" bullsheit.

Don't like it, well tough tits, that's the way it is.

And this is why they will never stop fighting.
Oh well, keep you guys employed aye mate?

Don't get it wrong for one second, the problem of Israel is not how to protect itself, but how to protect itself given the minimal number of Palestinian civilian causalities. Israel probably could sustain like that for 50 more years; could the Palestinians?

 

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Originally posted by: SamurAchzar
Originally posted by: Aimster
Palestinians never started a war for them to be defeated. They were nothing and are still nothing.

They were the Arabs slaves and the Arabs threw them out after they stopped fighting with the Israelis.

Now they are the M.E trash that nobody wants.

Yep, as someone in ties with the middle east, you know that just as well as I do and people around here don't realize. Egypt doesn't want them, Jordan doesn't want them. Black September

Unfortunately, only Arabs know how to deal with other Arabs.

It is well known, but it just gives them a more "underdog appeal" which apologists love. The fact that no one cares about them, including themselves ( if they did they wouldn't have voted in the hamas ) only gives them justification to do whatever atrocities they want, killing woman and children, torturing Israel civillians, ect ect ect, and crying fowl when Israel surgically attempts to kill the Hamas leadership.
 

RichardE

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Palestinians never started a war for them to be defeated. They were nothing and are still nothing.

They were the Arabs slaves and the Arabs threw them out after they stopped fighting with the Israelis.

Now they are the M.E trash that nobody wants.

Except Israel wants them and will give them a home, but not under the "conditions" they demand. The Palestinians make this mess for themselves.
 

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(195 casualties) x (number of pissed off close relatives of the dead who abhor the killing) + (the relatives' children) + (their yet unborn children) = near future Hamas recruitment rolls

Stay classy, Israel. Someone's got to keep the threat level up in order to justify all that juicy US military aid.
 

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Originally posted by: fallout man
(195 casualties) x (number of pissed off close relatives of the dead who abhor the killing) + (the relatives' children) + (their yet unborn children) = near future Hamas recruitment rolls

Stay classy, Israel. Someone's got to keep the threat level up in order to justify all that juicy US military aid.

"... Because if we just keep our head down and keep sucking, all the bad guys would disappear"

Typical bitch attitude from the left. Try applying your formula to Hiroshima - or was that disproportionate use of power? :D