Largest Fraud In US History Uncovered - $50+ Billion Missing In Iraq

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A 'fraud' bigger than Madoff
By Patrick Cockburn in Sulaimaniyah, Northern Iraq
Senior US soldiers investigated over missing Iraq reconstruction billions

In what could turn out to be the greatest fraud in US history, American authorities have started to investigate the alleged role of senior military officers in the misuse of $125bn (£88bn) in a US -directed effort to reconstruct Iraq after the fall of Saddam Hussein. The exact sum missing may never be clear, but a report by the US Special Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction (SIGIR) suggests it may exceed $50bn, making it an even bigger theft than Bernard Madoff's notorious Ponzi scheme.

"I believe the real looting of Iraq after the invasion was by US officials and contractors, and not by people from the slums of Baghdad," said one US businessman active in Iraq since 2003.

In one case, auditors working for SIGIR discovered that $57.8m was sent in "pallet upon pallet of hundred-dollar bills" to the US comptroller for south-central Iraq, Robert J Stein Jr, who had himself photographed standing with the mound of money. He is among the few US officials who were in Iraq to be convicted of fraud and money-laundering.

Despite the vast sums expended on rebuilding by the US since 2003, there have been no cranes visible on the Baghdad skyline except those at work building a new US embassy and others rusting beside a half-built giant mosque that Saddam was constructing when he was overthrown. One of the few visible signs of government work on Baghdad's infrastructure is a tireless attention to planting palm trees and flowers in the centre strip between main roads. Those are then dug up and replanted a few months later.

Iraqi leaders are convinced that the theft or waste of huge sums of US and Iraqi government money could have happened only if senior US officials were themselves involved in the corruption. In 2004-05, the entire Iraq military procurement budget of $1.3bn was siphoned off from the Iraqi Defence Ministry in return for 28-year-old Soviet helicopters too obsolete to fly and armoured cars easily penetrated by rifle bullets. Iraqi officials were blamed for the theft, but US military officials were largely in control of the Defence Ministry at the time and must have been either highly negligent or participants in the fraud.

American federal investigators are now starting an inquiry into the actions of senior US officers involved in the programme to rebuild Iraq, according to The New York Times, which cites interviews with senior government officials and court documents. Court records reveal that, in January, investigators subpoenaed the bank records of Colonel Anthony B Bell, now retired from the US Army, but who was previously responsible for contracting for the reconstruction effort in 2003 and 2004. Two federal officials are cited by the paper as saying that investigators are also looking at the activities of Lieutenant-Colonel Ronald W Hirtle of the US Air Force, who was senior contracting officer in Baghdad in 2004. It is not clear what specific evidence exists against the two men, who have both said they have nothing to hide.

The end of the Bush administration which launched the war may give fresh impetus to investigations into frauds in which tens of billions of dollars were spent on reconstruction with little being built that could be used. In the early days of the occupation, well-connected Republicans were awarded jobs in Iraq, regardless of experience. A 24-year-old from a Republican family was put in charge of the Baghdad stock exchange which had to close down because he allegedly forgot to renew the lease on its building.

In the expanded inquiry by federal agencies, the evidence of a small-time US businessman called Dale C Stoffel who was murdered after leaving the US base at Taiji north of Baghdad in 2004 is being re-examined. Before he was killed, Mr Stoffel, an arms dealer and contractor, was granted limited immunity from prosecution after he had provided information that a network of bribery ? linking companies and US officials awarding contracts ? existed within the US-run Green Zone in Baghdad. He said bribes of tens of thousands of dollars were regularly delivered in pizza boxes sent to US contracting officers.

So far, US officers who have been successfully prosecuted or unmasked have mostly been involved in small-scale corruption. Often sums paid out in cash were never recorded. In one case, an American soldier put in charge of reviving Iraqi boxing gambled away all the money but he could not be prosecuted because, although the money was certainly gone, nobody had recorded if it was $20,000 or $60,000.

Iraqi ministers admit the wholesale corruption of their government. Ali Allawi, the former finance minister, said Iraq was "becoming like Nigeria in the past when all the oil revenues were stolen". But there has also been a strong suspicion among senior Iraqis that US officials must have been complicit or using Iraqi appointees as front-men in corrupt deals. Several Iraqi officials given important jobs at the urging of the US administration in Baghdad were inexperienced. For instance, the arms procurement chief at the centre of the Defence Ministry scandal, was a Polish-Iraqi, 27 years out of Iraq, who had run a pizza restaurant on the outskirts of Bonn in the 1990s.

In many cases, contractors never started or finished facilities they were supposedly building. As security deteriorated in Iraq from the summer of 2003 it was difficult to check if a contract had been completed. But the failure to provide electricity, water and sewage disposal during the US occupation was crucial in alienating Iraqis from the post-Saddam regime.
The GOP should be lining up for a press conference over this report, right? We're talking about the misuse of $125+ billion, and the theft of over $50 billion, in a country we destroyed but have failed to help rebuild. Of course it probably wouldn't reflect well on the GOP or our military if reports about pallets of taxpayer's hundred dollar bills being pocketed $60,000 at a time by corrupt US officials and Republican cronies got out.

The war in Iraq is certainly the biggest fraud in recent US history. Now we have evidence it was also the biggest financial fraud as well.
 

Genx87

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We are busy working on a recent theft of 800 billion. Once we get done with that we can work on this 125 billion.
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: Genx87
We are busy working on a recent theft of 800 billion. Once we get done with that we can work on this 125 billion.

duhversion failure
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: Genx87
We are busy working on a recent theft of 800 billion.
Are you referring to the Paulson/Bush bailout of 2008?
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Genx87
We are busy working on a recent theft of 800 billion.
Are you referring to the Paulson/Bush bailout of 2008?

Good point, 1.6 trillion stolen. See how easy this is?
 
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A 'fraud' bigger than Madoff
By Patrick Cockburn in Sulaimaniyah, Northern Iraq
Senior US soldiers investigated over missing Iraq reconstruction billions

In what could turn out to be the greatest fraud in US history, American authorities have started to investigate the alleged role of senior military officers in the misuse of $125bn (£88bn) in a US -directed effort to reconstruct Iraq after the fall of Saddam Hussein. The exact sum missing may never be clear, but a report by the US Special Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction (SIGIR) suggests it may exceed $50bn, making it an even bigger theft than Bernard Madoff's notorious Ponzi scheme.

"I believe the real looting of Iraq after the invasion was by US officials and contractors, and not by people from the slums of Baghdad," said one US businessman active in Iraq since 2003.

In one case, auditors working for SIGIR discovered that $57.8m was sent in "pallet upon pallet of hundred-dollar bills" to the US comptroller for south-central Iraq, Robert J Stein Jr, who had himself photographed standing with the mound of money. He is among the few US officials who were in Iraq to be convicted of fraud and money-laundering.

Despite the vast sums expended on rebuilding by the US since 2003, there have been no cranes visible on the Baghdad skyline except those at work building a new US embassy and others rusting beside a half-built giant mosque that Saddam was constructing when he was overthrown. One of the few visible signs of government work on Baghdad's infrastructure is a tireless attention to planting palm trees and flowers in the centre strip between main roads. Those are then dug up and replanted a few months later.

Iraqi leaders are convinced that the theft or waste of huge sums of US and Iraqi government money could have happened only if senior US officials were themselves involved in the corruption. In 2004-05, the entire Iraq military procurement budget of $1.3bn was siphoned off from the Iraqi Defence Ministry in return for 28-year-old Soviet helicopters too obsolete to fly and armoured cars easily penetrated by rifle bullets. Iraqi officials were blamed for the theft, but US military officials were largely in control of the Defence Ministry at the time and must have been either highly negligent or participants in the fraud.

American federal investigators are now starting an inquiry into the actions of senior US officers involved in the programme to rebuild Iraq, according to The New York Times, which cites interviews with senior government officials and court documents. Court records reveal that, in January, investigators subpoenaed the bank records of Colonel Anthony B Bell, now retired from the US Army, but who was previously responsible for contracting for the reconstruction effort in 2003 and 2004. Two federal officials are cited by the paper as saying that investigators are also looking at the activities of Lieutenant-Colonel Ronald W Hirtle of the US Air Force, who was senior contracting officer in Baghdad in 2004. It is not clear what specific evidence exists against the two men, who have both said they have nothing to hide.

The end of the Bush administration which launched the war may give fresh impetus to investigations into frauds in which tens of billions of dollars were spent on reconstruction with little being built that could be used. In the early days of the occupation, well-connected Republicans were awarded jobs in Iraq, regardless of experience. A 24-year-old from a Republican family was put in charge of the Baghdad stock exchange which had to close down because he allegedly forgot to renew the lease on its building.

In the expanded inquiry by federal agencies, the evidence of a small-time US businessman called Dale C Stoffel who was murdered after leaving the US base at Taiji north of Baghdad in 2004 is being re-examined. Before he was killed, Mr Stoffel, an arms dealer and contractor, was granted limited immunity from prosecution after he had provided information that a network of bribery ? linking companies and US officials awarding contracts ? existed within the US-run Green Zone in Baghdad. He said bribes of tens of thousands of dollars were regularly delivered in pizza boxes sent to US contracting officers.

So far, US officers who have been successfully prosecuted or unmasked have mostly been involved in small-scale corruption. Often sums paid out in cash were never recorded. In one case, an American soldier put in charge of reviving Iraqi boxing gambled away all the money but he could not be prosecuted because, although the money was certainly gone, nobody had recorded if it was $20,000 or $60,000.

Iraqi ministers admit the wholesale corruption of their government. Ali Allawi, the former finance minister, said Iraq was "becoming like Nigeria in the past when all the oil revenues were stolen". But there has also been a strong suspicion among senior Iraqis that US officials must have been complicit or using Iraqi appointees as front-men in corrupt deals. Several Iraqi officials given important jobs at the urging of the US administration in Baghdad were inexperienced. For instance, the arms procurement chief at the centre of the Defence Ministry scandal, was a Polish-Iraqi, 27 years out of Iraq, who had run a pizza restaurant on the outskirts of Bonn in the 1990s.

In many cases, contractors never started or finished facilities they were supposedly building. As security deteriorated in Iraq from the summer of 2003 it was difficult to check if a contract had been completed. But the failure to provide electricity, water and sewage disposal during the US occupation was crucial in alienating Iraqis from the post-Saddam regime.
The GOP should be lining up for a press conference over this report, right? We're talking about the misuse of $125+ billion, and the theft of over $50 billion, in a country we destroyed but have failed to help rebuild. Of course it probably wouldn't reflect well on the GOP or our military if reports about pallets of taxpayer's hundred dollar bills being pocketed $60,000 at a time by corrupt US officials and Republican cronies got out.

The war in Iraq is certainly the biggest fraud in recent US history. Now we have evidence it was also the biggest financial fraud as well.

Dear Living God.
 

palehorse

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This is not a partisan issue -- this is a legal and ethics issue that involves members of both political parties.
 

Hacp

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This is a bipartisan tragedy. Both democrats and republicans are responsible. The democrats more so because there are more of them in congress.
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: Hacp
The democrats more so because there are more of them in congress.
Not before 2006, when a Republican President and Republican Congress sent our nation and our money to war in Iraq.
 

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What irks me more is that anyone would turn this into a partisan issue. Shouldn't EVERYONE be furious over this (assuming it turns out to be true, which sounds likely) and demanding accountability?

I'd hope both parties would step up and demand a detailed report on the findings and make that public. Not that I'm anticipating that, but I'm not hoping one party or the other does it either and starts pointing fingers at the other.
 

Modelworks

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It says in the article where the money went.
Palm trees !
At the defense department rate they are probably $10 million each.
 

Chunkee

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For some reason, I do not know why, but I am having great difficulty in trying to understand how these people sleep at night? Most on here will say I am naive, but this kind of thing is just plain and blatantly ugly. Perhaps a harsher accountability measure should be in order. All these white collar ripoff crimes should end up in hard labor for life. I guess these people somewhere along their line of upbringing, got very lost and confused or chose to ascertain that there is a moral obligation to one another.

Just plain ugly.
 

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According to zfacts, we have spent about 635 billion in Iraq since late 2002. So about 100 billion per year roughly. The alleged fraud amounted to roughly 8 billion per year or about 8%.

Before any goes off, I am as unhappy as anyone over government waste and fraud. But if you look at it like this, 8% is not bad. Contractors typically pad 10% or more anyway.

With all that said, prosecute to the fullest those who are guilty. Courts martial for the military members and criminal proceedings for government and civilians.
 

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Hacp
The democrats more so because there are more of them in congress.
Not before 2006, when a Republican President and Republican Congress sent our nation and our money to war in Iraq.

And yet, here we are with a Democrat Congress and a Democrat Pres and from the looks of it nothing is going to change in Iraq.
 

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Originally posted by: CPA
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Hacp
The democrats more so because there are more of them in congress.
Not before 2006, when a Republican President and Republican Congress sent our nation and our money to war in Iraq.

And yet, here we are with a Democrat Congress and a Democrat Pres and from the looks of it nothing is going to change in Iraq.
Is that your professional opinion based on the first 3.5 weeks of his presidency?
 

OCGuy

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Originally posted by: CPA
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Hacp
The democrats more so because there are more of them in congress.
Not before 2006, when a Republican President and Republican Congress sent our nation and our money to war in Iraq.

And yet, here we are with a Democrat Congress and a Democrat Pres and from the looks of it nothing is going to change in Iraq.

Yep. The best thing Obama could have done in his first 100 was to bring 95% of our boys home or shift them to Afghanistan. Now he is extending the timetable. :|
 

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Wow, so you mean when we posted those threads about people just walking off with bags of money and got called idiots and conspiracy theorists..


We were right?

Who woulda thunk it :confused:
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: dphantom
According to zfacts, we have spent about 635 billion in Iraq since late 2002. So about 100 billion per year roughly. The alleged fraud amounted to roughly 8 billion per year or about 8%.
Not exactly. A majority of the $100 billion/year are operational costs of the war. Gas, bullets, weapons, food, room/board, etc.

Iraqi reconstruction money had the purpose of rebuilding the infrastructure that was bombed/shelled to pieces during the war or ensuing occupation. As a percentage of those funds, $125 billion misspent and $50 billion missing is an enormous portion.
 
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Originally posted by: jpeyton
The GOP should be lining up for a press conference over this report, right? We're talking about the misuse of $125+ billion, and the theft of over $50 billion, in a country we destroyed but have failed to help rebuild. Of course it probably wouldn't reflect well on the GOP or our military if reports about pallets of taxpayer's hundred dollar bills being pocketed $60,000 at a time by corrupt US officials and Republican cronies got out.

The war in Iraq is certainly the biggest fraud in recent US history. Now we have evidence it was also the biggest financial fraud as well.
What we're talking about is an article that deals primarily in smoke and lies that suckered you right in because it told you precisely what you want to hear so you accepted it without question.

First of all, it's impossible to misuse $125 billion in Iraq because Congress hasn't provided anywhere near that amount of funding for the reconstruction of Iraq. Thus far we've spent @ 50 billion on reconstruction in Iraq (some of which got diverted to security prior to 2008) and there's plenty to show for it, for those who bother to actually look at the details instead of reading and running with a shoddy article from the Independent, possibly Britain's bizarro version of Fox News in print.

Second of all, the article is full of shit about construction cranes in Baghdad. What about the Qudas power plant that's nearing completion? How about the Farabi and Jamilia substation in Sadr city? What about all the water projects and new water and sewage lines that are being put in place around Baghdad and elsewhere in Iraq? Military barracks. Police stations. Hundreds of schools all across Iraq.

SIGIR also knows where most of its money is going and who is committing fraud. They are going after the fraudsters as well.

Convictions report

Suspensions and Disbarments

List of Contracts

But, hey. Let the Independent tell you what to think and believe instead. Media rags like that thrive on suckers.
 

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: jpeyton
The GOP should be lining up for a press conference over this report, right? We're talking about the misuse of $125+ billion, and the theft of over $50 billion, in a country we destroyed but have failed to help rebuild. Of course it probably wouldn't reflect well on the GOP or our military if reports about pallets of taxpayer's hundred dollar bills being pocketed $60,000 at a time by corrupt US officials and Republican cronies got out.

The war in Iraq is certainly the biggest fraud in recent US history. Now we have evidence it was also the biggest financial fraud as well.
What we're talking about is an article that deals primarily in smoke and lies that suckered you right in because it told you precisely what you want to hear so you accepted it without question.

First of all, it's impossible to misuse $125 billion in Iraq because Congress hasn't provided anywhere near that amount of funding for the reconstruction of Iraq. Thus far we've spent @ 50 billion on reconstruction in Iraq (some of which got diverted to security prior to 2008) and there's plenty to show for it, for those who bother to actually look at the details instead of reading and running with a shoddy article from the Independent, possibly Britain's bizarro version of Fox News in print.

Second of all, the article is full of shit about construction cranes in Baghdad. What about the Qudas power plant that's nearing completion? How about the Farabi and Jamilia substation in Sadr city? What about all the water projects and new water and sewage lines that are being put in place around Baghdad and elsewhere in Iraq? Military barracks. Police stations. Hundreds of schools all across Iraq.

SIGIR also knows where most of its money is going and who is committing fraud. They are going after the fraudsters as well.

Convictions report

Suspensions and Disbarments

List of Contracts

But, hey. Let the Independent tell you what to think and believe instead. Media rags like that thrive on suckers.
You forgot to use the important bold feature on the key parts of your post.