Hey folks. I'm just asking for advice on corded, decent DPI mice. My bottom of palm to middle-finger length is 7 3/4 inches (19.68 cm). I've always dealt with resting my palm on the mouse pad and clawing the mouse. As age is setting in, this is giving me cramps. I'm looking for a little advice. I've seen some "large" mice that aren't large enough, have only LMB/RMB/middle-click or abysmal DPI. I've scrounged newegg, pcpartpicker and such. Even took a trip to a BB. Is there any good extender, or other device I can grab? Thanks in advance.
Larger Handed Corded Mouse Suggestions
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I also have long hands, 3/4" longer than your measured length, so I understand your problem. While it's kind of handy for me as a piano player, several years ago, I found myself feeling the onset of what felt like carpal tunnel pain in my wrist.. Several suggestions:
1. I use my mouse on a small folding "TV tray" next to my chair, and I elevate my wrist across a long bolster (sofa type cushion) about 20" long with a 3" x 5" in oval cross section as a support for my entire right forearm above the top of the mouse. This greatly reduces the fatigue and pain I would feel after extended sessions using my mouse.
To avoid getting the cushion drity with accumulated sweat, etc., I wrap it n an old towel, which I can wash wheneveer I do my laundry.
2, With this arrangement, I am comfortable using my full sized desktop mouse and my smaller portable laptop mouse. In addition to elevating and cushioning my wrist, I've found the most important factor to reduce fatigue is the feel of the switches when I click it. I feel greater fatigue if I use a mouse that requires more force to go over the click threshold,
I suggest going to a store with a good selection of makes and models and physically testing them to find one (or more) that feels comfortable to you.
3. Try this hand/wrist exercise when you just start to feel the onset of pain or cramping:
a. Hold your hand and wrist straight up.
b. Rotate your hand around your wrist in a helicopter motion. Do this with some force and speed so you can feel the streching of your wrist muscles. Then, reverse the direction of rotation, and repeat the exercise.
c. Sometimes, I grab my right wrist with my left hand and use my left thumb to put a little extra pressure over the wrist area in the first few inches below the heel of my hand while I'm doing this exercise.
I know this exercise helps, and I know elevating my wrist helps because I can feel the onset of my problem much sooner when I'm at another computer where I can't easilly arrange to elevate my wrist.
As for your concern about age setting in, I'm 73, and I've been doing this exercise for over 20 years, and it really helps.
Hope that helps. Now that we've covered your problem, you may find this video amusing. :biggrin:
Rachmaninov Had Big Hands
1. I use my mouse on a small folding "TV tray" next to my chair, and I elevate my wrist across a long bolster (sofa type cushion) about 20" long with a 3" x 5" in oval cross section as a support for my entire right forearm above the top of the mouse. This greatly reduces the fatigue and pain I would feel after extended sessions using my mouse.
To avoid getting the cushion drity with accumulated sweat, etc., I wrap it n an old towel, which I can wash wheneveer I do my laundry.
2, With this arrangement, I am comfortable using my full sized desktop mouse and my smaller portable laptop mouse. In addition to elevating and cushioning my wrist, I've found the most important factor to reduce fatigue is the feel of the switches when I click it. I feel greater fatigue if I use a mouse that requires more force to go over the click threshold,
I suggest going to a store with a good selection of makes and models and physically testing them to find one (or more) that feels comfortable to you.
3. Try this hand/wrist exercise when you just start to feel the onset of pain or cramping:
a. Hold your hand and wrist straight up.
b. Rotate your hand around your wrist in a helicopter motion. Do this with some force and speed so you can feel the streching of your wrist muscles. Then, reverse the direction of rotation, and repeat the exercise.
c. Sometimes, I grab my right wrist with my left hand and use my left thumb to put a little extra pressure over the wrist area in the first few inches below the heel of my hand while I'm doing this exercise.
I know this exercise helps, and I know elevating my wrist helps because I can feel the onset of my problem much sooner when I'm at another computer where I can't easilly arrange to elevate my wrist.
As for your concern about age setting in, I'm 73, and I've been doing this exercise for over 20 years, and it really helps.
Hope that helps.
Now that we've covered your problem, you may find this video amusing. :biggrin:Rachmaninov Had Big Hands
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Thanks Harvey! I had used the mousepads with the cushion at the wrist, always more of a hindrance. Hadn't thought about a larger separate cushion for the entire forearm and lowering the mouse. I will definitely try that out. Thanks for the tip on stretches. I've been using the ones they teach at Amazon fulfillment with some success.
I knew people with larger hands than my own were using mice just fine. Although, I was expecting the mouse to change, not the technique. :hmm: Simple solutions are usually best!
As far as the video...... I really got down when he started using the boards!! I'll favorite that for later!
I knew people with larger hands than my own were using mice just fine. Although, I was expecting the mouse to change, not the technique. :hmm: Simple solutions are usually best!
As far as the video...... I really got down when he started using the boards!! I'll favorite that for later!
LOL. One of those is still my mouse pad, just because it hasn't worn out the pad, and my own wrist is well above the supposed wrist support.
I searched Google for exercise relieve wrist pain amazon, and every link on the page wanted to sell me some book or hardware to address the problem.
Then, I deleted "amazon" and searched again. I found a number of interesting links. The ones I scanned didn't show the exercise in my post, but I'll go back to check out what's there. I knew that, one day, I'd find a good reason for Google.
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Charmonium
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You can go for an adjustable mouse like these. Madcatz has a few IIRC.
But your problem might be dietary. Magnesium is critical for muscle relaxation just like calcium is needed for muscle contractions. It is virtually impossible to get even the DV of magnesium unless you tailor your diet specifically to that requirement and that can mean eating a decent amount of some high calorie foods like nuts.
I would check out a chelated magnesium supplement. That will be something other than a magnesium salt like an oxide or sulfate. It will be something like mg aspartate, citrate, gluconate, etc.
Start with 500mg for a few days and see if you feel any better. The first time you take it you'll probably feel more relaxed. But more isn't necessarily better since in high quantities it can cause diarrhea. Up to 1000mg per day shouldn't be a problem though as long as you work up to it. Your entire body will thank you since virtually no one gets enough Mg w/o supplements.
But your problem might be dietary. Magnesium is critical for muscle relaxation just like calcium is needed for muscle contractions. It is virtually impossible to get even the DV of magnesium unless you tailor your diet specifically to that requirement and that can mean eating a decent amount of some high calorie foods like nuts.
I would check out a chelated magnesium supplement. That will be something other than a magnesium salt like an oxide or sulfate. It will be something like mg aspartate, citrate, gluconate, etc.
Start with 500mg for a few days and see if you feel any better. The first time you take it you'll probably feel more relaxed. But more isn't necessarily better since in high quantities it can cause diarrhea. Up to 1000mg per day shouldn't be a problem though as long as you work up to it. Your entire body will thank you since virtually no one gets enough Mg w/o supplements.
DigDog - You Sir/Madam, I wish very much to buy you a beer/coffee/tea! I've looked for charts like those, but none were as detailed and specific as that! Thank you very much! I saved it to desktop and have been mulling over it for a while. Thank you!
Charmonium - Thank you for the tip on Magnesium! Think I'll swing by Wally World or CVS and hunt some up. The chelated stuff use to be dissolved in water, maybe they have pills now.
Harvey - The exercises I use are what they teach Amazon employees to do during breaks. One of the wrist exercises is similar to the helicopter one you talked about. Try this one: Extend your arm forward completely. Keep your hand in a blade the entire time. Grad your finger tips with the opposite hand and pull up, towards your forearm. Hold for 10 seconds. Then, push the back of the same hand down (aim for 90 degrees for both up and down), hold for 10 seconds. You should really feel the burn/stretch in your forearm muscles. Really helps the wrists and hands.
Charmonium - Thank you for the tip on Magnesium! Think I'll swing by Wally World or CVS and hunt some up. The chelated stuff use to be dissolved in water, maybe they have pills now.
Harvey - The exercises I use are what they teach Amazon employees to do during breaks. One of the wrist exercises is similar to the helicopter one you talked about. Try this one: Extend your arm forward completely. Keep your hand in a blade the entire time. Grad your finger tips with the opposite hand and pull up, towards your forearm. Hold for 10 seconds. Then, push the back of the same hand down (aim for 90 degrees for both up and down), hold for 10 seconds. You should really feel the burn/stretch in your forearm muscles. Really helps the wrists and hands.
Charmonium
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What's wrong with the RAT9? I'll admit that the battery had some problems but that was years ago. I'm sure they've fixed that by now.
Thanks all for the great help! I've decided on the Logitech G502 Proteus Core. I was thinking of the Razer Ouroboros due to length adjustment, but, reviews have called-out software and button click issues. Plus, the G502 is optical, and from what I've read (sometimes) lasers give "mouse acceleration." I remember when pulling the ball and cleaning the spindles with q-tips and alcohol was the "professional" thing to do! Things have changed a lot in just a few years.
DigDog - It's for gaming. Thanks for the heads-up on the RAT. I was in the running a few weeks ago, people were reporting quality control issues with it too. I finally bit the bullet and just asked here!
Thanks again guys and gals! Came here for mouse advice: left with mouse technique, mouse sizing chart, nutritional advice and helpful advice on what models to avoid! Love this forum!
DigDog - It's for gaming. Thanks for the heads-up on the RAT. I was in the running a few weeks ago, people were reporting quality control issues with it too. I finally bit the bullet and just asked here!
Thanks again guys and gals! Came here for mouse advice: left with mouse technique, mouse sizing chart, nutritional advice and helpful advice on what models to avoid! Love this forum!
DigDog
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the proteus is a great mouse, you will do fine with it.
the rat .. the first version, was absolutely gross. expensive, bad sensor, bad implementation of sensor, with every possible fault you can think of - acceleration, negative acceleration, angle snapping - and to boot, it was heavy and the chassis would fall apart.
the later versions got better but, the sensor is still sub-par to average, the implementation is inferior, the cost is waay over what you pay for a perfect mouse, and it's still heavy and gimmicky.
i shall now quote unnamedtony's review of the RAT 7 mouse:
"it's shit, don't buy it"
the only thing that unfortunately the RAT has is that it's good looking, and many people have fallen for it. thus the many negative reviews.
Random, i'm glad you like it here; this happens to be my favorite techforum as well.
Just dont go poking your nose around the basement, ok?
the rat .. the first version, was absolutely gross. expensive, bad sensor, bad implementation of sensor, with every possible fault you can think of - acceleration, negative acceleration, angle snapping - and to boot, it was heavy and the chassis would fall apart.
the later versions got better but, the sensor is still sub-par to average, the implementation is inferior, the cost is waay over what you pay for a perfect mouse, and it's still heavy and gimmicky.
i shall now quote unnamedtony's review of the RAT 7 mouse:
"it's shit, don't buy it"
the only thing that unfortunately the RAT has is that it's good looking, and many people have fallen for it. thus the many negative reviews.
Random, i'm glad you like it here; this happens to be my favorite techforum as well.
Just dont go poking your nose around the basement, ok?
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