Larabee wafer exposed

[Cookie Monster]

Surprising enough, the first incantation of larrabee will NOT primarily focus on GPGPU aspects but rather graphics.

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As we reported last year, the first implemention of Larrabee will be targeted to graphics and visual computing applications, not the more general-purpose technical computing applications (seismic analysis, financial analytics, scientific research, high-end imaging, etc.) that Ct is aimed at.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Great article lots of stuff. Ct is nothing we don't no about. Intel will use it on x86 and it will work fine on AMD CPUs , But not GPUs ATI/NV neither can use. Since intel will be using vectoring they don't care if AMD Cpus can run ON Ctx86. Its a good read but you said nothing new . Nor did you understand this part to your link.

. But since the first Larrabee products will have the same limitations for general-purpose computing as a traditional GPU, the initial offerings are not slated for HPC duty.

Thats other than what they already stated. SO until CT arrives in all its glory. CL works.

Same as saying MS has CL on DX11 . Ya they do. BUT its ported. Apples is not ported.Intels isn't ported NV is ported ATI is ported All ported But but intel and apple os to openCL.

This comes into play on run and play compile. Apple is about to bitch slap MS.

 

[Idontcare]

Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
I know that last bit and the following is not about Larrabee . But you said we have no metrics . I think we do .

*snip*

This paper will provide a brief background on ISA, and then give an overview of the new instructions and capabilities of the Intel AVX and advantages of these innovative instructions across various applications and programming models.

I mean experimental data, not speculation on the lower/upper limits we can expect the end product to fall between.

I have no issue with making attempts to bound the expected power-consumption of Larrabee, provided this too is done with a rational methodology (which you are doing).

But do not conflate our speculative bounding of the power-consumption question (albeit as justified and rational as one can be about it) with that of actually having data regarding the power profile of the actual Larrabee architecture as implemented in silicon.

There is no way to estimate Larrabee's power consumption without knowing operating voltage and clock frequency at a minimum, and even then we'd still be making liberal guesses regarding xtor density and types (but we could make justified bounds on these based on Atom performance and die-size as you point out).

Intel people are not dumb, as you know, and I think we both can agree we'd be fooling ourselves to think Intel isn't watching themselves like a hawk regarding everything they put into the public domain when it comes to Larrabee's performance and power-consumption as they KNOW this is a big question of interest to their competition.

No way we'll be able to piece this one together by stringing together the right IDF presentations and press releases, its all been scrutinized already before it went public.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Thats a trueth. It should be an understod trueth in hardware forums.

But I spent countless hours tring to ans why Intel bought a company in Russia.

Trying to figure out were intel uses bits and piecies here and there . Never giving credit were credit is due. Intrigueing. Than intel and Apple hook up so . I start snooping on Apple . Its know secret intel really likes C/C++. Which I never understood. Still don't but picture is becoming much less muddled every day. But apple frontend compile is C++ . So I start thinking . NO way did Apple come to Intel . Zero logic in that. It had to be Intel approaching Apple.

When the smoke clears you just wait and see the bloody here. Than all hindsight will kick in . Intel has the industry by the balls. Apple C++ native os made it all possiable. Leverage. Once apple wanted an open CL and got it. That was end game baby. But look at all others it can help. I mean new powers shall arise. This is not just good for Intel . Its good for lots of people. Its Bad for lots also. ARM won't be crying.