Laptop Harddrive Died - What do I do?

spartacuskzm

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So the deal is I purchased a used Laptop - a Toshiba Tecra 8100. A techie friend took a look and thinks the harddrive died. Is there anything special that needs to be done when replacing the hard drive of a laptop? With the purchase I did NOT receive any recovery disks, etc, etc. I don't know what drivers I'll need for whatever hardware is in the laptop, however I'm guessing a visit to the Toshiba webiste w/ the model/SN will get me the relevant info.

Separately, I'm assuming this means I need to buy another copy of Windows (it was 95, but I'll get XP I guess) since I don't have the old disk that went w/ this formerly corporate laptop. Correct?

Lastly, any step-by-step hints for newbies (like resetting the bios to boot from the CD, etc, etc) that I should know.

Thanks from a Noob.

 

ojai00

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Hard drives are probably the only thing that's replaceable in a laptop, so you're lucky it wasn't something else that died ;) The Toshiba site should be able to provide you with the manufacturer information for the devices inside the laptop at least. If they also provide drivers, that would be great...I know that IBM does.

To be legal, yes, you would have to get another copy of the OS with a COA, or just get the license/COA and you can install from another CD...I think :p (Don't take my word for that)

To reset the BIOS, there's usually a key combination that you have to press. The Toshiba site should be able to tell you that. For my old Thinkpad, I have to hold down F1 and turn the laptop on. I have to keep holding it until I get into the BIOS configuration. It might be different for yours, try F1, F2, and/or Delete.

Hope this helps.
 

thorin

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Originally posted by: ojai00
Hard drives are probably the only thing that's replaceable in a laptop, so you're lucky it wasn't something else that died ;)
Huh? Every part of a laptop is replaceable. Memory - Check, Screen - Check, Battery - Check, Floppy/CDROM/DVDROM - Check, keyboard - Check, AC Power Supply - Check, Motherboard - Check. The CPU might be the only thing that isn't directly replaceable, on some models you may have to replace the whole motherboard but even then you still get a new CPU.

Thorin

 

elzmaddy

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What sizes are there for laptop hard disks?

I need to upgrade a HD on a friends Compaq laptop taht is a few years old (didn't say what model it was).
 

coolVariable

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Usually they are 9.5 mm in height.


Where are you? I just replaced my old 6 GB HD in my laptop with a new one and I would be willing to sell it (and even help you install it).
I'm in LA.

So if you are interested ....


Edit: It actually is a Toshiba HD. (the 6014 MAP model).
 

ojai00

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Originally posted by: thorin
Originally posted by: ojai00
Hard drives are probably the only thing that's replaceable in a laptop, so you're lucky it wasn't something else that died ;)
Huh? Every part of a laptop is replaceable. Memory - Check, Screen - Check, Battery - Check, Floppy/CDROM/DVDROM - Check, keyboard - Check, AC Power Supply - Check, Motherboard - Check. The CPU might be the only thing that isn't directly replaceable, on some models you may have to replace the whole motherboard but even then you still get a new CPU.

Thorin

LOL. Sorry thorin. I meant to say one of the easiest to replace...along with those you mentioned. :eek:
 

grrl

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The Compaqs I believe require a special caddy for their HDs also.

Like others have said, also check the height and mounting screw locations. IBM's site (for one) has a compatibility chart so you can compare different drives.
 

Macro2

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Your're lucky. Toshiba HDs are some of the most available and best priced HDs for notebooks.

Just go to pricewatch and start looking. Often you can get a bigger one than the one that took a dive.
 

DaveSimmons

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Originally posted by: grrl
The Compaqs I believe require a special caddy for their HDs also.

Like others have said, also check the height and mounting screw locations. IBM's site (for one) has a compatibility chart so you can compare different drives.
Do you happen to know the link for IBM's? The drive in my 240 is starting to make ugly retry noises (just like floppy bad sectors) and searching IBM's site using my model number didn't turn up anything.

 

thorin

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"LOL. Sorry thorin. I meant to say one of the easiest to replace...along with those you mentioned. "

Heh...that makes more sense :p

Thorin
 

hirschma

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Originally posted by: spartacuskzm


Separately, I'm assuming this means I need to buy another copy of Windows (it was 95, but I'll get XP I guess) since I don't have the old disk that went w/ this formerly corporate laptop. Correct?

Lastly, any step-by-step hints for newbies (like resetting the bios to boot from the CD, etc, etc) that I should know.

Thanks from a Noob.

I've upgraded many notebooks, all brands (but not Toshiba...), and I have a few tips that might prove helpful to you.

* In general, you shouldn't have any issues with putting in any standard 2.5" drive, especially 9.5mm formfactor drives, into any recent notebook. You'll have to remove the original drive caddy, dissect it, and then put the generic drive into the caddy. Shouldn't take more than a few minutes. The BIOS should detect it automatically. I'd suggest sticking with Toshiba drives since they are cheap, good, reliable and are less likely to give you compatibility issues. And lastly, you can ALWAYS put a 9.5mm drive into a machine that originally had a 12mm unit, but you cannot always go the other way.

www.basoncomputer.com is a good resource for finding good mobile drive deals, and I've had many, many good experiences with them. I'm only affiliated as a happy customer.

* Homework: go to the Toshiba site, and look for a few things:

- Check for BIOS upgrades. An upgraded BIOS will improve your chances of putting in larger drives, and working with newer versions of Windows. This is a must.

- Check to see what variants of your model were offered. For example, if Toshiba shipped the same hardware with Win98, or Win2k, you'll have an easier time of finding drivers and the like for those OS's.

- Also for OS compatibility: get a specsheet or service manual for your model. Make a list of all the hardware in the machine beyond the chipset - video, modem, ethernet if applicable, etc. Then cross reference that with the HCL (hardware compatibility list) of your target OS. Microsoft has HCLs for all modern Windows on their site. You might find, for example, that WinXP has all the drivers you need built-in. Be careful here - if you don't find the support you need on either Toshiba's site, or in the HCL, you should probably avoid a given version of Windows.

In other words, don't try to force XP onto the machine if you aren't 100% sure it'll work out for you. Driver support for notebook video and sound chips is much sketchier than for desktops - try to stay with either what the vendor supported, or what MS supports.

- Look to see if Toshiba offers a utility to make new suspend/hibernation partions for their notebooks. You'll need that in order to continue using suspend to disk, if that was a feature in the first place.

* Lastly, confirm that the HD is indeed dead. The EASIEST way to to do this is to buy a notebook drive IDE adapter and put it in a desktop to see if you can access it. If you can, it means that there is either a power issue or a chipset problem. I've seen both of these, in notebooks, as the true culprit behind "bad hard drives". I strongly urge you to take this step unless you are in a real rush - although the problem probably is a dead HD, what if you buy a replacement, put it in... and can't access it? Cheap insurance is a good thing.

Once you get the HD in the machine, and after you've sorted out driver issues the like, it shouldn't be particularly difficult to load a generic OS and then tweak it out for mobile use. Booting from the CD came later for notebooks than for desktops, so you might have no choice but to create boot floppies. The BIOS should tell you all you need to know.

And, as others have said, there is more to upgrade than just the HD. You can, if you're daring, upgrade the CPU, and its a piece of cake to put in more memory. My current mobile is a Dell Inspiron 3700 that has had its memory, CPU and HD upgraded, and it is much faster than when it came from the factory :)

jonathan
 

stranger707

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Before you get started with the rreplacement of the hard drive go to the Toshiba web site and download all of the drivers for your model of Tecra. Burn them on a CD so that you have them all together and ready for the installation of your operating system. Meause the size of your hard drive (thickness) and buy one the same size. Then, partition it, format, and install your operating system. Have fun!