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I see so many people getting by the filter by typing "fvck" or "fsck", would it be that hard to add those words and their derivatives to the language filter? This is "supposed" to be a family friendly board and I don't think it would be that hard for a youngster to figure out these words.
 
Actually I was coming here to post the same thing. There are quite a few titles alon with FSCK etc in the wording, it doesn't look good IMO
 


<< There are legitimate uses of fsck (file system consistency check), which apply to the Operating Systems forum.... >>



And how many times have you used that?
 
i dont think it really matters, its just like when they bleep out words on tv, they dont say the word, but you know what it is anyways.
 


<< i dont think it really matters, its just like when they bleep out words on tv, they dont say the word, but you know what it is anyways. >>


Which leads to question, why censor it in the first place?
 
It has always amazed me that the people on this forum or any other for that matter have such bad command of the english language that they have no other words to express themself except swear words. I think that one of the reasons that this board has been so successfull is because of the tight moderation and language filters.
Bleep
 
I think the filters do their job by making everything pretty clean here. It doesn't really seem like something that should have time wasted on it to keep tracking down the new ways a few people devise to avoid them (removing those two is not going to stop it).

Does anybody here really think their kids don't know those words? I mean, what difference does it make if they put F-S-CK or %$!@#..??

I think the filters prevent the board from being filled with trash, and thats what they are supposed to do.

That being said, it would not affect my enjoyment of the board one way or the other, so if some members would prefer those terms removed, and the mods don't mind taking the time to do, go fot it.

j
 
I don't hate the words nor their use. It is easy, however for an overabudance of em to put a mark on the overall character and impression that the forums convey. Suppose I favor leaving the filters a bit more sparse and cracking down on those folks that just can't do anything -but- swear like a sailor.
 


<< << There are legitimate uses of (file system consistency check), which apply to the Operating Systems forum.... >>
And how many times have you used that? >>

Go here and do a search for the said word (it's now banned) to see how many times it pops up....it's as common in the NIX environment as scandisk is in Windows. This is, after all, a computer discussion forum....do a search for f-s-ck in Operating Systems, there are two uses (current and archived) in titles applying to Linux, and I'm sure there are many more bonefide uses in message bodies.

It's not the end of the world, but it's quite silly to ban a word that has a legitimate use for these forums that happens to be similar to a curse word.
 
well, i think that the filter should be removed completely. these are just words people... what makes certain ones worse than others? what you parents told you? ooh, don't say this word, it's *bad*....

i don't want this forum degrading into some aol chatroom, true, but i would think that such users would get permanently banned pretty quickly anyways. besides, they can just as easily use the variations. i don't thinkthe filter is preventing the AOLization of this place.

and the vocabulary argument is interesting, but do you realize, that you are attempting to limit their vocabulary with a filter? or is that acceptble, because those words are *bad*?

you can add as many things to the filter as you want, but where there's a need for expression, people will find a way. you can't limit expression, you can only delay it.
 
In my mind it is a matter of professionalism. Personally I don't care too much what is said in OT, except that it reflects on the rest of the forums. As an aspect of Anand's business it is within the forums best interests to maintain certain standards. Also this site appeals to a wide audience. Although almost everyone will have heard the words before and understand their meaning, if there were no filters, things here would probably deteriorate.

I'm an adult but I really don't care to see this kind of language, whether actual or implied. The staff has chosen to implement filters and it doesn't seem right that people use methods to defeat the filters
 


<< In my mind it is a matter of professionalism. Personally I don't care too much what is said in OT, except that it reflects on the rest of the forums. As an aspect of Anand's business it is within the forums best interests to maintain certain standards. Also this site appeals to a wide audience. Although almost everyone will have heard the words before and understand their meaning, if there were no filters, things here would probably deteriorate.

I'm an adult but I really don't care to see this kind of language, whether actual or implied. The staff has chosen to implement filters and it doesn't seem right that people use methods to defeat the filters >>



You have my support!

Michael
 
what makes you think it would deteriorate? people can convey the same meaning right now, but they choose not to be retards and say nothing but Deletedall the time. do you think this type of behavior is going to skyrocket just because they can now replace the "v" with a "u"?

it works like this, you're never going to be able to restrain people from expressing themselves. you ban one word, they'll just use another. and really, what difference do words have but meaning?


Bypassing our language filters even in this discussion is a means to a vacation.


AnandTech Moderator
 
Something to consider, from here:

What do the ratings symbols mean?

G - General Audience. All ages admitted. This signifies that the film rated contains nothing most parents will consider offensive for even their youngest children to see or hear. Nudity, sex scenes, and scenes of drug use are absent; violence is minimal; snippets of dialogue may go beyond polite conversation but do not go beyond common everyday expressions.

PG - Parental Guidance Suggested. Some material may not be suitable for children. This signifies that the film rated may contain some material parents might not like to expose to their young children - material that will clearly need to be examined or inquired about before children are allowed to attend the film. Explicit sex scenes and scenes of drug use are absent; nudity, if present, is seen only briefly, horror and violence do not exceed moderate levels.

PG-13 - Parents Strongly Cautioned. Some material may be inappropriate for children under 13. This signifies that the film rated may be inappropriate for pre-teens. Parents should be especially careful about letting their younger children attend. Rough or persistent violence is absent; sexually-oriented nudity is generally absent; some scenes of drug use may be seen; one use of the harsher sexually derived words may be heard.

R - Restricted-Under 17 requires accompanying parent or adult guardian (age varies in some locations). This signifies that the rating board has concluded that the film rated contains some adult material. Parents are urged to learn more about the film before taking their children to see it. An R may be assigned due to, among other things, a film's use of language, theme, violence, sex or its portrayal of drug use.

NC-17 - No One 17 and Under Admitted. This signifies that the rating board believes that most American parents would feel that the film is patently adult and that children age 17 and under should not be admitted to it. The film may contain explicit sex scenes, an accumulation of sexually-oriented language, or scenes of excessive violence. The NC-17 designation does not, however, signify that the rated film is obscene or pornographic.

Do we really need to moderate this forum all the down to G? This is the internet, after all, not Saturday cartoons.

Viper GTS
 


<< Do we really need to moderate this forum all the down to G? This is the internet, after all, not Saturday cartoons. >>



If you don't like it then you can leave.

Sorry. Just always wanted to say it 😉
 


<< Forget it Viper, the Self Righteous are in the majority. >>



They have my cordial invitation to kiss my fu...























...rry ass.

😉

Viper GTS
 
ATOT was originally created so the irreverant and the wild could have a good time. It wasn't made for all these Self Righteous Bungholes. Yet they came and they whined and sniveled until the Mods said to hell with it, let's give in. The next time one of them posts a message that's remotely interesting will be the first time for most of them. I wonder is some of them even have a personality.
 


<< ATOT was originally created so the irreverant and the wild could have a good time. It wasn't made for all these Self Righteous Bungholes. Yet they came and they whined and sniveled until the Mods said to hell with it, let's give in. The next time one of them posts a message that's remotely interesting will be the first time for most of them. I wonder is some of them even have a personality. >>



maybe they should make a "g" forum, for little kiddies and "Self Righteous Bungholes," as you so aptly named them, and a normal forum for everybody else. that would solve the problem, no?

but i doubt that'll ever happen, because the whole purpose of censorship is to project one's sense of "morality" onto others. if everybody else was free to do as they pleased, it would be no more fun.
 
Man, this place has become mighty anal. I'm not sure if it's (as Red Dawn puts it) "School Marms" or now "Self Righteous Bungholes," but I don't like any of it. Damn people, lighten up, it's an Internet discussion board. This place is becoming so squeaky clean, maybe we should change all the user icons to Disney characters.

And, FYI, I am a paying customer, so I don't want to hear any "It's a free forum, if you don't like it, leave" arguments. They aren't holding water anymore.
 


<< I see so many people getting by the filter by typing "fvck" or "fsck", would it be that hard to add those words and their derivatives to the language filter? This is "supposed" to be a family friendly board and I don't think it would be that hard for a youngster to figure out these words. >>



I think the balance placed on the filters is sufficient. The "F" word is banned, and variations of it are monitored. If the use of the variation is acceptable (for example, f&*^, I just got ripped off!), it's allowed. If it's not (F*^% you, you're a F%^$#^^% idiot), it's taken care of. To try to moderate it absolutely would be difficult, if not impossible. For each variation added to the banned words list, another would spring up in it's place. As is, you don't see that much language on these boards. The mods are aware that this is a family environment, and do a good job keeping it that way. I'd also like to mention that the mods are not replacements for the actual parents of a child. If a parent deems the language here too unfriendly, then in the end, it is the parents job to moderate their child. If the boards were to be G rated and 100% child friendly, nothing stops a child that comes here from going elsewhere on the net and seeing much worse things than you will ever see here.
 
Sochan, are you $hitting me, is fs-ck a forbidden word now?

Ok obviously it is, this is getting seriously out of hand, not to mention pathetic.
Hey I dont like the word "Windows", it reminds me of a bad word in Swahili, would you mind banning that word as well?

Damn how I miss the good ole times before all the whiners and kiddies took this place over :|
 
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