Landlord locked GF's cat in her bedroom.

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Ichinisan

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You're supposed to secure your animals when you know someone will be entering. They don't want to be responsible for your animal getting away as they are entering / exiting.
 

gorcorps

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My gf lives in St. Louis, and rents a small 1 bedroom apartment near the Botanical Gardens. It's a 4 unit house. The landlord has been pretty good. A little creepy, but I think that's just because he's like 37 and single, and my gf is pretty hot.

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where the hell are the pics
 

alkemyst

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As a pet owner, it probably would have been a good idea if your GF gave the land lord a heads up to leave the doors open when he told her that he would be over (especially with cats as you might not expect them to be seen). IMHO, it's her fault (an honest mistake either way).

QFT. If you have animals and you know you have service people coming while you aren't there you should give CLEAR instructions to them or better yet put the animal in a cage for the day with water and a litter box.

Especially if your g/f knows that cat wants to sneak into rooms.
 

Kelvrick

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So she had her pets all through the apartment? How would she have felt if they got out while they were doing HVAC work, instead?

Deal with your pets. Also, pics of gf? If not enough, then I will side against landlord.
 

momeNt

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A lot of the anger is probably over the blankets that are irreplaceable because they are from her grandmother who has passed.

Does the GF keep the bedroom door closed while she is at work? If so then the LL opened the door to let the cat in then closed it. Even more creepy, he might have gone through her dirty clothes? Have her check to make sure none of her underwear are missing. If any are I would probably file a restraining order.
 

MrDudeMan

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QFT. If you have animals and you know you have service people coming while you aren't there you should give CLEAR instructions to them or better yet put the animal in a cage for the day with water and a litter box.

Especially if your g/f knows that cat wants to sneak into rooms.

Yeah, exactly. In another scenario, he didn't see the cats at all so he had no idea they were even in the apartment. One or both sneaked into the room, he shut the door because it was shut when he arrived, and then he left. Focusing on the fact that he was aware of the cat is pointless because it shouldn't have been up to him to handle it at all.
 

MrDudeMan

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Anyone going in or out of the property should leave it EXACTLY how they found it. If something happens then they should pay for the fix or repair.

Lets be real, the Land Lord put the cat in the bedroom so it's out of the way and forgot to let it out again. It's no different than if say he decided to leave the window open and an expensive pet ran away. Then say "oh I thought it was open already and meant to be open, dur". Except the loss wasn't the pet it was an expensive mattress. He did the mistake he should pay for it.

I'm a landlord and I wouldn't be that stupid. This land lord was stupid and should pay for HIS mistake. Now getting him to pay is another thing entirely.

I disagree. If someone has pets, they should deal with them so I don't have to when I arrive and leave. The door was shut when he got there and he probably didn't see the cat get into the room. He shut the door when he left and he obviously didn't know which side of the door the cat should be on. Yeah, he could have called to ask, but that doesn't make him responsible for the fallout in this particular case (imo anyway). There are certainly things a landlord can do that would be negligent, but I put 100% of the blame on the tenant here. I definitely wouldn't pay for this, but I also make sure my tenants handle it before I arrive. It's in my lease.
 

purbeast0

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Ops gf is at fault imo. She shouldn't have left the cats out to run around and then expect the ll to do anything about it with no clear instructions. Should have been locked in a room to begin with. An expensive learned.
 

twinrider1

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IEC

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Piss poor planning results in... piss?
 

cronos

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It's tough but I think it's not the LL fault. But I'm biased because I'm as close as you can be to a 'hater' of pets of any kind so in my mind pets and pet owners are always at fault.

Anyway, I chuckled at OP's girlfriend being livid but ended up exchanging text messages with the LL at midnight. Isn't it hard being angry through text? Why didn't she just call him? I think it would've been more effective. The strange thing is that he replied, too. If someone texted me after 11pm I wouldn't have read it until I woke up in the morning.
 

alkemyst

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Anyone going in or out of the property should leave it EXACTLY how they found it. If something happens then they should pay for the fix or repair.

Lets be real, the Land Lord put the cat in the bedroom so it's out of the way and forgot to let it out again. It's no different than if say he decided to leave the window open and an expensive pet ran away. Then say "oh I thought it was open already and meant to be open, dur". Except the loss wasn't the pet it was an expensive mattress. He did the mistake he should pay for it.

I'm a landlord and I wouldn't be that stupid. This landlord was stupid and should pay for HIS mistake. Now getting him to pay is another thing entirely.

lol, you can't be serious.
 

TechBoyJK

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It's tough but I think it's not the LL fault. But I'm biased because I'm as close as you can be to a 'hater' of pets of any kind so in my mind pets and pet owners are always at fault.

Anyway, I chuckled at OP's girlfriend being livid but ended up exchanging text messages with the LL at midnight. Isn't it hard being angry through text? Why didn't she just call him? I think it would've been more effective. The strange thing is that he replied, too. If someone texted me after 11pm I wouldn't have read it until I woke up in the morning.

My gf is pretty OCD, so her sleeping in cat piss would certainly make her irrational for a bit.

Also, I've tried to tell her that imho, the LL has otherwise been a good LL. He's been nice, courteous, and responsive. While I think it was a careless mistake, I don't think he did it intentionally, and I'm even struggling to find him 100% at fault.
 

nageov3t

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My gf is pretty OCD, so her sleeping in cat piss would certainly make her irrational for a bit.

Also, I've tried to tell her that imho, the LL has otherwise been a good LL. He's been nice, courteous, and responsive. While I think it was a careless mistake, I don't think he did it intentionally, and I'm even struggling to find him 100% at fault.

just call it a life lesson learned.

in the future, your GF should lock the cat up somewhere in the apartment with food/water/litterbox and something to nap in whenever strangers are expected to be in the apartment.
 

TechBoyJK

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My last email to the GF (we are both at work)

A majority of the comments on atot suggest it's ultimately your fault. The LL fucked up, but you kind of set the stage for the fuck up by not clearly communicating how to handle the pets.

When the servicemen worked on my water heater, I reminded Cheryl (my LL who lives in AZ but has local guys do her repair work) to tell them about the cats, and she said 'I already did'. While I didn't post any signs, I made it clear that the cats might try and go out the basement door, and Cheryl knows this. Every single time I've needed work done, she's remembered and let me know she told the serviceman. She doesn't want to be responsible for pet problems; but if I never bothered to tell her or leave a note, I could have seen a serviceman accidentally letting a cat out and not realizing he did it.

At least the cats are safe. Everything but the mattress can be cleaned fully. Even then, if the mattress pad sucked so bad it let cat piss soak through, your mattress is probably already less sanitary than you'd like to think. Do you have a black light?
 
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Ns1

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Wow, your GF is freaking out that much over a little cat piss? She has issues. Just get a new mattress and ask the landlord to chip in for it. Geez.

Imagine how she would react 5 years from now when she has a kid trashing the place!

Not sure if srs or stupid
 

mrjminer

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A cat went without food, water, or a litter box for 8 hours? Someone call CNN to expose the inhumane treatment inflicted upon this poor, neglected cat.

Really, though, it's not the landlord's fault. A responsible pet owner would have had their pets caged or shut in a room already -- away from wherever the work was being performed. Only a delusional person would let their pets roam free without being there while knowing Mr. Joe HVAC is coming over to work on some stuff.

What is he supposed to do? Call and say, "You left these cats running around like an irresponsible asshole. Oh, sorry about your sense of entitlement; we will be glad to waste our time having you direct us through your personal property to identify ways in which we can better care for your cats while we try to perform HVAC work you dumb mother fucker. Just kidding, INTO THE ROOM IT GOES FOR 8 HOURS -- WITHOUT FOOD, WATER, OR A LITTER BOX!!! MUAHHAWHHAWHAHWHAWAWAWAW."

I think the only thing worse than cats are most cat owners.
 

Carson Dyle

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Definitely this. If one of my tenants has an issue, I tell them to take care of their pets before I get to the unit. I don't know where the animals are supposed to be and it isn't my responsibility to deal with them.

If you take it upon yourself and decide to shut an animal in one room of the apartment without having been told to do so, you should be liable for any damages. If you don't accept that responsibility and you don't admit that you fucked up, then you should be sued for all damages.
 

nageov3t

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If you take it upon yourself and decide to shut an animal in one room of the apartment without having been told to do so, you should be liable for any damages. If you don't accept that responsibility and you don't admit that you fucked up, then you should be sued for all damages.

you'd have to prove that the LL knowingly locked the cat up in the bedroom, though.

it's not unheard of for cats to sneak around and hide in weird random spots like under a bed.

hell, one of my cat's favorite sleeping spots is buried in the back of the closet in our home office... I wouldn't expect a serviceman to check the closets for cats before closing any doors, which is why I secure my cat in a room with a "do not open, animals inside" sign on the door if I expect service people to be in the house.
 
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alkemyst

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Another question I have is why is the GF running everything through the OP?!?

Is she not an adult?
 

Carson Dyle

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My last email to the GF (we are both at work)

A majority of the comments on atot suggest it's ultimately your fault.

I strongly disagree with that opinion. And I really don't think that you're going to accomplish a thing by telling her this. Except maybe to put yourself in her doghouse.

The LL fucked up, but you kind of set the stage for the fuck up by not clearly communicating how to handle the pets.

What kind of instructions should be given for how to "handle" a couple of freaking house cats? Unless you expect the cats to attack the visitors. "If Fluffy attacks you, do NOT shut her in the bedroom. She can easily escape, and if she does and she finds you, she'll rip your throat out without even trying."

Why would anyone expect that someone might take it upon themselves to shut the cats in a bedroom? Any more than they might expect them to let them out without being told, or to give them baths, or to tie them up and put them in the freezer.