LAN Party problem

[Tsuwamono]

I have a bit of a problem. I am having a LAN party and i have about 8 people coming. i have two 4 port routers and 1 modem. however i can get a second modem from a friend. there are two scenarios i would like to know if they work and how exactly to do it.

1. Router 1 going into modem 1 and Router 2 going into Modem 2

2. Router 1 into router 2 through WAN ports and a single CAT6 cable.

I also have an XBOX crossover cable if that helps any.

Any other suggestions to get 8 people playing together in the same room will be welcome aside from buying a new router because i dont have the cash for that right now

 

[nweaver]

You are going to have problems, as you don't have enough ports. You need to take router 1, and plug it into router 2 lan port to lan port. Disable DHCP on router 2 prior to this. You now have 6 ports (you are using the second router as a switch now). Setting this up WAN to WAN is going to cause your problems with the nat stuff.

 

[tomt4535]

Im assuming thats a cable or DSL modem? Ive had around 15 or so people on my cable modem connection and the internet was still plenty fast. Most of the time you should be on the local network, so you wont even have the need for a second modem. It may not even work with your ISP, they probably only give you one public IP. What I suggest you do is this:
Plug the modem into the WAN port on Router 1.

Connect a LAN port on Router 1 to a LAN port on Router 2(you might need to use a crossover cable).

You need to get into the configuration for router 2 and disable DHCP and also change the IP of the router, unless they are already have diffrent IP Addresses(I can help you with that if you tell me what model router you have).

Plug the computers into the remaining ports.

Basicly what that will do is make router 2 into a switch, and Router 1 will give IP's to all the computers. With this setup, you can only have 6 computers on it, but you can do the same as you did with Router 2 with another router or add a hub to it. Hopefully one of your friends can bring another one with them. This setup will be similar to your second setup, but Im pretty sure that the routers wont work if you connect them with their WAN ports.

 

[blemoine]

are yall playing just on the lan or yall playing over the internet? if over the internet i am not sure if a second modem would help. i thought you could only use one modem per household on dsl.

Any other suggestions to get 8 people playing together in the same room will be welcome aside from buying a new router because i dont have the cash for that right now

connecting two routers with a crossover gives you 6 ports and you still have 8 people. the math doesn't work. with 8 people involved someone should be able to get their hands on a switch or hub or even another router you can use as a switch. if you ever figure out how to connect 8 devices on only 6 ports please let me know that will be groundbreaking.

 

[Tsuwamono]

OK well basicly i guess my rant wasnt enough info. Heres the complete story. Today i went to work and found out 2 people arent coming. So thats 6 people total now.

I have a D-Link DI-624(wireless but nobody has wireless including me except on my laptop) and a DI-604. Both of them use 192.168.0.1 They are both 4 port routers. As i said we have 6 people coming so we need 6 out of the 8 ports working for sure.

We dont NEED to play on the internet but its always fun to screw around with online people too.

My connection is 3mbps downstream and 800kbps up. Average speeds are 2.94mbps down and 796kbps up.

 

[Tsuwamono]

Bump

Originally posted by: tomt4535
Im assuming thats a cable or DSL modem? Ive had around 15 or so people on my cable modem connection and the internet was still plenty fast. Most of the time you should be on the local network, so you wont even have the need for a second modem. It may not even work with your ISP, they probably only give you one public IP. What I suggest you do is this:
Plug the modem into the WAN port on Router 1.

Connect a LAN port on Router 1 to a LAN port on Router 2(you might need to use a crossover cable).

You need to get into the configuration for router 2 and disable DHCP and also change the IP of the router, unless they are already have diffrent IP Addresses(I can help you with that if you tell me what model router you have).

Plug the computers into the remaining ports.

Basicly what that will do is make router 2 into a switch, and Router 1 will give IP's to all the computers. With this setup, you can only have 6 computers on it, but you can do the same as you did with Router 2 with another router or add a hub to it. Hopefully one of your friends can bring another one with them. This setup will be similar to your second setup, but Im pretty sure that the routers wont work if you connect them with their WAN ports.

 

[InlineFive]

Originally posted by: Tsuwamono
Bump

Originally posted by: tomt4535
Im assuming thats a cable or DSL modem? Ive had around 15 or so people on my cable modem connection and the internet was still plenty fast. Most of the time you should be on the local network, so you wont even have the need for a second modem. It may not even work with your ISP, they probably only give you one public IP. What I suggest you do is this:
Plug the modem into the WAN port on Router 1.

Connect a LAN port on Router 1 to a LAN port on Router 2(you might need to use a crossover cable).

You need to get into the configuration for router 2 and disable DHCP and also change the IP of the router, unless they are already have diffrent IP Addresses(I can help you with that if you tell me what model router you have).

Plug the computers into the remaining ports.

Basicly what that will do is make router 2 into a switch, and Router 1 will give IP's to all the computers. With this setup, you can only have 6 computers on it, but you can do the same as you did with Router 2 with another router or add a hub to it. Hopefully one of your friends can bring another one with them. This setup will be similar to your second setup, but Im pretty sure that the routers wont work if you connect them with their WAN ports.

He is absolutely correct, the hardware simply isn't flexible enough to do what you want.

1. Use a crossover cable between routers.
2. Disable DHCP on the 2nd router.
3. Use only the WAN for the internet on your primary router.

That is the most you can do. Unless your friend brings another switch to daisychain off of the primary router.

 

[JDMnAR1]

If both routers are configured to use the same IP as you indicated, then you will also have to reconfigure IP on your second router.

 

[Tsuwamono]

i understand how to do everything except change the IP now.