Lake Mead

[sdifox]

Cali needs to eminent domain all the water rights and price it out properly.

 

[BoomerD]

Step one, and it is all fixed. But making ag users actually pay for water is apparently a political non starter.

Seriously, a $5 per 1000 gallons tax on all water used would more than permanently fix the issue in California. About $7/person/month for residential users. And it would provide excess revenue to more than pay for any water projects needed. But it would need to apply to everyone, rather than keeping the majority of ag users exempt from all water charges as done today.

The problem with that is (to me) while it would raise revenue, it does nothing to address the shortage of available water. More storage dams might help, but you have to get by all the tree huggers/fish lovers who are pretty good at stopping dam construction. Desalinization plants might help somewhat, but they're far from being environmentally friendly...and they require a shit-ton of power...another thing that's in short supply on The Golden State.
Ag is the big water waster in CA. Almonds are possibly the biggest water hog around...most of which are sold for export. Instead of using the dwindling resource to grow food consumed in this country, it's used to grow a snack food that's shipped elsewhere.

 

[BoomerD]

Cali needs to eminent domain all the water rights and price it out properly.

If they tried that, it would be 100 years or more before the court battles decided anything.

 

[cytg111]

The lab grown beef is supposed to have the same environmental impact as chicken. But if you eat the wrong beef the peach tree dish will tell the 5g chip from the covid vaccine designed by Bill Gates to buzz you.

This is actually paraphrasing MTG… No shit.

 

[IronWing]

The problem with that is (to me) while it would raise revenue, it does nothing to address the shortage of available water. More storage dams might help, but you have to get by all the tree huggers/fish lovers who are pretty good at stopping dam construction. Desalinization plants might help somewhat, but they're far from being environmentally friendly...and they require a shit-ton of power...another thing that's in short supply on The Golden State.
Ag is the big water waster in CA. Almonds are possibly the biggest water hog around...most of which are sold for export. Instead of using the dwindling resource to grow food consumed in this country, it's used to grow a snack food that's shipped elsewhere.

Almonds get a well deserved bad rap but irrigated pastureland and growing feed for cattle is still the largest (and lowest economic value) water use in the west.

 

[sdifox]

If they tried that, it would be 100 years or more before the court battles decided anything.

They can eminent domain for a highway, I would argue water is a hell lot more important than a highway.

 

[Mr.IncrediblyBored]

They can eminent domain for a highway, I would argue water is a hell lot more important than a highway.

Yeah that's usually taking property from blacks and browns. This is from white business owners.

 

[sdifox]

Yeah that's usually taking property from blacks and browns. This is from white business owners.

The entire role of the government is to do what is needed for the people, no matter how hard it is.

 

[UNCjigga]

The entire role of the government is to do what is needed for the people, no matter how hard it is.

Haven’t you been paying attention? The role of US government is to keep rich white people in power (and that especially includes all the farmers, ranchers and wealthy ag landowners west of the Rockies.)

 

[sdifox]

Haven’t you been paying attention? The role of US government is to keep rich white people in power (and that especially includes all the farmers, ranchers and wealthy ag landowners west of the Rockies.)

just because that is what happens now doesn't mean it cannot be changed.

 

[BoomerD]

just because that is what happens now doesn't mean it cannot be changed.

it's hidden in the unwritten parts of the US Constitution...guarantees freedoms that you filthy unwarshed Canuckistanians know nothing aboot.

 

[SMOGZINN]

just because that is what happens now doesn't mean it cannot be changed.

How do you go about changing who is in charge when the people that are in charge has to be the ones to make the change?