Labelling of Genetically Modified food...

[DrPizza]

Originally posted by: Megatomic

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
The European Union requires companies to label all GM food, how come the U.S. doesn't require this? If we require ingredients to be listed, then we sure as heck should know whether the food was genetically modified or not. I don't want to put that crap into my body, just like I wouldn't want to eat a pizza that had 4g of Trans Fat/serving.

Solution: eat meat from free range animals and only veggies from your own garden.

/thread

Just one question... where are you going to get the seeds from to grow your veggies in your garden? Heritage vegetables are getting more and more rare.

 

[Pepsi90919]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
The European Union requires companies to label all GM food, how come the U.S. doesn't require this? If we require ingredients to be listed, then we sure as heck should know whether the food was genetically modified or not. I don't want to put that crap into my body, just like I wouldn't want to eat a pizza that had 4g of Trans Fat/serving.

Because for all intents and purposes it doesnt matter?

Actually it does, I don't like the idea of putting e.coli DNA (used to alter plant cell DNA) and RoundUp resistant bacteria into my body, k-thanks. There's a reason why Japan and the EU absolutely refuse to accept any GM imports, and why they have labelling if they do contain GM foods. Ignorance is bliss I guess.

you should know.

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: Pepsi90919

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
The European Union requires companies to label all GM food, how come the U.S. doesn't require this? If we require ingredients to be listed, then we sure as heck should know whether the food was genetically modified or not. I don't want to put that crap into my body, just like I wouldn't want to eat a pizza that had 4g of Trans Fat/serving.

Because for all intents and purposes it doesnt matter?

Actually it does, I don't like the idea of putting e.coli DNA (used to alter plant cell DNA) and RoundUp resistant bacteria into my body, k-thanks. There's a reason why Japan and the EU absolutely refuse to accept any GM imports, and why they have labelling if they do contain GM foods. Ignorance is bliss I guess.

you should know.

:roll: Maybe you could give me tips on how to pimp my lame "internet services business" and put it in my sig too?

 

[BD2003]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: Pepsi90919

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
The European Union requires companies to label all GM food, how come the U.S. doesn't require this? If we require ingredients to be listed, then we sure as heck should know whether the food was genetically modified or not. I don't want to put that crap into my body, just like I wouldn't want to eat a pizza that had 4g of Trans Fat/serving.

Because for all intents and purposes it doesnt matter?

Actually it does, I don't like the idea of putting e.coli DNA (used to alter plant cell DNA) and RoundUp resistant bacteria into my body, k-thanks. There's a reason why Japan and the EU absolutely refuse to accept any GM imports, and why they have labelling if they do contain GM foods. Ignorance is bliss I guess.

you should know.

:roll: Maybe you could give me tips on how to pimp my lame "internet services business" and put it in my sig too?

My microbiology professor this morning happened to tell a story about how tons of GM grain was offered to Zambia, so they wouldn't starve.

They refused to eat it, preferring to starve, out of ignorance.

The grain was modified to grow better in nutrient poor soil, and to have its own anti-insectisidal agents. The net result - it would grow better, faster, and DIDN'T need spraying.

 

[DaShen]

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: DaShen

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
It sounds like you're just trying to rationalize things that you don't understand, it's ok. Biochemists have repeatedly said that it's impossible to predict the recombinations of DNA from GM food (i.e. there is a possibility of proteins from E. Coli can recombine with pesticide resistant bacteria proteins). If you're willing to be a labrat, then that's fine, I'm not and will excercise my choice to eat organic foods.

As a sidenote, on the allergy risk issue, peoples' allergies change all the time. For example, I never used to have photoallergies but now I break out in hives when I get too much sun exposure.

The sad thing is that GM foods have done absolutely NOTHING for the consumer: no better taste, no better shelf life, all they have done is increase yields through more spraying. I see no reason to eat them and support international corporations' bottom lines.

Basically. Although GM foods have been tested and retested, who knows the long term effects of changing the DNA of vegetation. There may be combinations of enzymes that are created due to the changes that react differently in digestion. Who knows? There is no way to tell until long term research is done.

I still eat it, because other options are too expensive (because they aren't huge corporations that mass market food and vegetables and pump them with nitrogen to give them color, so they tend to be more expensive), but my dad grows fruits and vegetables in our yard and we eat those regularly.

"Organic" food tastes better (IMO also digests better, who knows why) and uses less pesticides. But a lot of "organic" food is accidentally cross pollinated. Even still, quality of the fruits and vegetables are better, and therefore better for you. People should stop making it such a big deal because some people can afford to make better lifestyle choices.

Again, the enzymes can combine all the want. They're going to be denatured either way, as soon as they hit the stupendously acidic gastric juices and E. Coli in our stomach.

The problem here is that you are putting all GM under the same blanket. Could some combinations be toxic? Perhaps - but you'll know essentially right away. You have to understand how efficient your body is at breaking organic compounds down and removing waste.

It is *incredibly* hard, in fact at this point, nearly downright impossible to *create* a new gene. They are just taken from other organisms, which we've been eating for millions of years. Once it hits your stomach, it doesnt matter what fruit the resistant gene came from.

Hydrogenated oils are a real danger. This is quite less of a health risk.

I will concede the point then.

But "Organic" foods tend to be better quality and better for you. Not talking about GMO.

 

[So]

Originally posted by: BD2003


My microbiology professor this morning happened to tell a story about how tons of GM grain was offered to Zambia, so they wouldn't starve.

They refused to eat it, preferring to starve, out of ignorance.

The grain was modified to grow better in nutrient poor soil, and to have its own anti-insectisidal agents. The net result - it would grow better, faster, and DIDN'T need spraying.

Well duh! Didn't you know, death by starvation is better than someone down the line someday possibly having health problems, perhaps.

 

[Descartes]

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: Pepsi90919

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
The European Union requires companies to label all GM food, how come the U.S. doesn't require this? If we require ingredients to be listed, then we sure as heck should know whether the food was genetically modified or not. I don't want to put that crap into my body, just like I wouldn't want to eat a pizza that had 4g of Trans Fat/serving.

Because for all intents and purposes it doesnt matter?

Actually it does, I don't like the idea of putting e.coli DNA (used to alter plant cell DNA) and RoundUp resistant bacteria into my body, k-thanks. There's a reason why Japan and the EU absolutely refuse to accept any GM imports, and why they have labelling if they do contain GM foods. Ignorance is bliss I guess.

you should know.

:roll: Maybe you could give me tips on how to pimp my lame "internet services business" and put it in my sig too?

My microbiology professor this morning happened to tell a story about how tons of GM grain was offered to Zambia, so they wouldn't starve.

They refused to eat it, preferring to starve, out of ignorance.

The grain was modified to grow better in nutrient poor soil, and to have its own anti-insectisidal agents. The net result - it would grow better, faster, and DIDN'T need spraying.

Many countries and their people have very rigid philisophical or religious definitions as to how their food should be cultivated and consumed. I'm not familiar with Zambia, but I know Ethiopia is very much a proponent of sustainable farming practices simply because that's what they've always done. They do this without going through the process of certifying their crop as organic. The prime example of this is Ethiopian coffee. Other more general examples would be Islamic Halal, Jewish Kosher and, to a lesser extent, Indian Hindu philosophy; I know not all Hindus subscribe to the same philisophical/religious doctrine in this regard though.

So, you can call it ignorance if you like, but some people have principles that lead them into a position of sacrifice. I can only assume that we'd be in a far better position now if we only had more people take a stand against the incredible sacrifices that we've made to promote the methods of mass agriculture.

 

[Descartes]

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[So]

Originally posted by: Descartes

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: Pepsi90919

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
The European Union requires companies to label all GM food, how come the U.S. doesn't require this? If we require ingredients to be listed, then we sure as heck should know whether the food was genetically modified or not. I don't want to put that crap into my body, just like I wouldn't want to eat a pizza that had 4g of Trans Fat/serving.

Because for all intents and purposes it doesnt matter?

Actually it does, I don't like the idea of putting e.coli DNA (used to alter plant cell DNA) and RoundUp resistant bacteria into my body, k-thanks. There's a reason why Japan and the EU absolutely refuse to accept any GM imports, and why they have labelling if they do contain GM foods. Ignorance is bliss I guess.

you should know.

:roll: Maybe you could give me tips on how to pimp my lame "internet services business" and put it in my sig too?

My microbiology professor this morning happened to tell a story about how tons of GM grain was offered to Zambia, so they wouldn't starve.

They refused to eat it, preferring to starve, out of ignorance.

The grain was modified to grow better in nutrient poor soil, and to have its own anti-insectisidal agents. The net result - it would grow better, faster, and DIDN'T need spraying.

Many countries and their people have very rigid philisophical or religious definitions as to how their food should be cultivated and consumed. I'm not familiar with Zambia, but I know Ethiopia is very much a proponent of sustainable farming practices simply because that's what they've always done. They do this without going through the process of certifying their crop as organic. The prime example of this is Ethiopian coffee. Other more general examples would be Islamic Halal, Jewish Kosher and, to a lesser extent, Indian Hindu philosophy; I know not all Hindus subscribe to the same philisophical/religious doctrine in this regard though.

So, you can call it ignorance if you like, but some people have principles that lead them into a position of sacrifice. I can only assume that we'd be in a far better position now if we only had more people take a stand against the incredible sacrifices that we've made to promote the methods of mass agriculture.

Sacrifies like booming population, abundant food supply, cheap foods, and a world surplus of food?

Oh, right, medieval 'sustainable' methods, and having to spend upwards of half your income on food was far superior.

 

[BD2003]

Originally posted by: DaShen

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: DaShen

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
It sounds like you're just trying to rationalize things that you don't understand, it's ok. Biochemists have repeatedly said that it's impossible to predict the recombinations of DNA from GM food (i.e. there is a possibility of proteins from E. Coli can recombine with pesticide resistant bacteria proteins). If you're willing to be a labrat, then that's fine, I'm not and will excercise my choice to eat organic foods.

As a sidenote, on the allergy risk issue, peoples' allergies change all the time. For example, I never used to have photoallergies but now I break out in hives when I get too much sun exposure.

The sad thing is that GM foods have done absolutely NOTHING for the consumer: no better taste, no better shelf life, all they have done is increase yields through more spraying. I see no reason to eat them and support international corporations' bottom lines.

Basically. Although GM foods have been tested and retested, who knows the long term effects of changing the DNA of vegetation. There may be combinations of enzymes that are created due to the changes that react differently in digestion. Who knows? There is no way to tell until long term research is done.

I still eat it, because other options are too expensive (because they aren't huge corporations that mass market food and vegetables and pump them with nitrogen to give them color, so they tend to be more expensive), but my dad grows fruits and vegetables in our yard and we eat those regularly.

"Organic" food tastes better (IMO also digests better, who knows why) and uses less pesticides. But a lot of "organic" food is accidentally cross pollinated. Even still, quality of the fruits and vegetables are better, and therefore better for you. People should stop making it such a big deal because some people can afford to make better lifestyle choices.

Again, the enzymes can combine all the want. They're going to be denatured either way, as soon as they hit the stupendously acidic gastric juices and E. Coli in our stomach.

The problem here is that you are putting all GM under the same blanket. Could some combinations be toxic? Perhaps - but you'll know essentially right away. You have to understand how efficient your body is at breaking organic compounds down and removing waste.

It is *incredibly* hard, in fact at this point, nearly downright impossible to *create* a new gene. They are just taken from other organisms, which we've been eating for millions of years. Once it hits your stomach, it doesnt matter what fruit the resistant gene came from.

Hydrogenated oils are a real danger. This is quite less of a health risk.

I will concede the point then.

But "Organic" foods tend to be better quality and better for you. Not talking about GMO.

Well, "better for you" is quite relative. Organic is not necessarily equivalent with quality. Organic = more natural growth, no additives, preservatives etc

We spray pesticides and GM our food for a reason - because there are pests! In general, the less time there is between when the food is harvested until when it hits your stomach the better. But thats not always realistic.

I go to the produce section and I see many things. I see waxed fruits/vegs, I see your standard "aka sprayed and/or GMed" fruits/vegs, I see organic fruits. The organics are usually smaller, and either much fresher, or much more ugly/rotten. They just don't have the shelf life that the others do. And depending on the crop, they usually need a lot more washing to get the taste of dirt and fertilizer off.

I've seen small stores that do a much better job of culling the lot and getting the bad fruit out before it infects the rest, and everything is tasty, delicious and fresh....and much more expensive. Most larger supermarkets I've seen don't do quite as good a job of this.

I look for fresh and delicious food. Whether or not it is organic or not is of little consequence, as long as its fresh. Often it is synonymous, but not always.

I saw organic sugar in the store the other day. This wasn't raw sugar, but refined cane sugar, in a fancy box. Just because its organic, doesn't mean it's good for you.

 

[Descartes]

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: Descartes

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: Pepsi90919

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
The European Union requires companies to label all GM food, how come the U.S. doesn't require this? If we require ingredients to be listed, then we sure as heck should know whether the food was genetically modified or not. I don't want to put that crap into my body, just like I wouldn't want to eat a pizza that had 4g of Trans Fat/serving.

Because for all intents and purposes it doesnt matter?

Actually it does, I don't like the idea of putting e.coli DNA (used to alter plant cell DNA) and RoundUp resistant bacteria into my body, k-thanks. There's a reason why Japan and the EU absolutely refuse to accept any GM imports, and why they have labelling if they do contain GM foods. Ignorance is bliss I guess.

you should know.

:roll: Maybe you could give me tips on how to pimp my lame "internet services business" and put it in my sig too?

My microbiology professor this morning happened to tell a story about how tons of GM grain was offered to Zambia, so they wouldn't starve.

They refused to eat it, preferring to starve, out of ignorance.

The grain was modified to grow better in nutrient poor soil, and to have its own anti-insectisidal agents. The net result - it would grow better, faster, and DIDN'T need spraying.

Many countries and their people have very rigid philisophical or religious definitions as to how their food should be cultivated and consumed. I'm not familiar with Zambia, but I know Ethiopia is very much a proponent of sustainable farming practices simply because that's what they've always done. They do this without going through the process of certifying their crop as organic. The prime example of this is Ethiopian coffee. Other more general examples would be Islamic Halal, Jewish Kosher and, to a lesser extent, Indian Hindu philosophy; I know not all Hindus subscribe to the same philisophical/religious doctrine in this regard though.

So, you can call it ignorance if you like, but some people have principles that lead them into a position of sacrifice. I can only assume that we'd be in a far better position now if we only had more people take a stand against the incredible sacrifices that we've made to promote the methods of mass agriculture.

Sacrifies like booming population, abundant food supply, cheap foods, and a world surplus of food?

Oh, right, medieval 'sustainable' methods, and having to spend upwards of half your income on food was far superior.

Do you ever have anything worthwhile to contribute? Your posts are always full of rhetoric, silly flippancy and hopeless sarcasm. If you're not calling someone an idiot you make stupid strawman remarks like you did above. I don't think I've seen any post of yours that was contrary to this.

 

[So]

Originally posted by: Descartes
Do you ever have anything worthwhile to contribute? Your posts are always full of rhetoric, silly flippancy and hopeless sarcasm. If you're not calling someone an idiot you make stupid strawman remarks like you did above. I don't think I've seen any post of yours that was contrary to this.

You haven't been paying attention very long, have you? You know perfectly well that 99% of the time my comments give, if anything, *too much* credence and respect to idiotic ideas. I'm just pissed off at stupidity and new age mysticism today. Deal, everyone has a day to get their panties in a twist over something, this is mine, and my subject is the modern irrational fear of progress, science and reason; as well as this romanticism about primitive ways.

 

[DaShen]

Originally posted by: BD2003
Well, "better for you" is quite relative. Organic is not necessarily equivalent with quality. Organic = more natural growth, no additives, preservatives etc

We spray pesticides and GM our food for a reason - because there are pests! In general, the less time there is between when the food is harvested until when it hits your stomach the better. But thats not always realistic.

I go to the produce section and I see many things. I see waxed fruits/vegs, I see your standard "aka sprayed and/or GMed" fruits/vegs, I see organic fruits. The organics are usually smaller, and either much fresher, or much more ugly/rotten. They just don't have the shelf life that the others do. And depending on the crop, they usually need a lot more washing to get the taste of dirt and fertilizer off.

I've seen small stores that do a much better job of culling the lot and getting the bad fruit out before it infects the rest, and everything is tasty, delicious and fresh....and much more expensive. Most larger supermarkets I've seen don't do quite as good a job of this.

I look for fresh and delicious food. Whether or not it is organic or not is of little consequence, as long as its fresh. Often it is synonymous, but not always.

I saw organic sugar in the store the other day. This wasn't raw sugar, but refined cane sugar, in a fancy box. Just because its organic, doesn't mean it's good for you.

A lot of mass produced fruits and vegetables are stored in Nitrogen gas filled areas to bring out the color and look of the fruit (not necessarily the taste). Many are picked before ripening and the nitrogen gives it the look of being ripe (of course this means better shelf life though.

I would rather know that the fruit is ripe and not sprayed with chemicals - "Organic". Plus since they are picked at the correct times, they are usually ripe and taste better. They may look "ugly" because they are not genetically modified to be homoginous, but the taste is still quite good. Ever had assorted "organic" tomatoes? YUM.

But, of course because of smaller demand and marketting "organic" tends to be too expensive for me to purchase, so I tend to eat whatever as long as it is relatively healthy. Plus you can soak the fruits in vinegar or Fit to get rid of most wax pesticides. But again, if I had the money, I would choose organic. Being picked when ripe and being picked closer to where it is shipped usually makes the fruit more nutritious for you, i.e. healthier. But again, you can argue that point to the ground, this is just what I have observed.

 

[LordMorpheus]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
The European Union requires companies to label all GM food, how come the U.S. doesn't require this? If we require ingredients to be listed, then we sure as heck should know whether the food was genetically modified or not. I don't want to put that crap into my body, just like I wouldn't want to eat a pizza that had 4g of Trans Fat/serving.

Because for all intents and purposes it doesnt matter?

Actually it does, I don't like the idea of putting e.coli DNA (used to alter plant cell DNA) and RoundUp resistant bacteria into my body, k-thanks. There's a reason why Japan and the EU absolutely refuse to accept any GM imports, and why they have labelling if they do contain GM foods. Ignorance is bliss I guess.

You tell me.

 

[CarlKillerMiller]

It may also have something to do with the fact that the people of the US, in general, are pretty clueless about GMO. Would the average person strolling into a grocery store buy an apple with a warning label on it, or one without a label?

 

[CarlKillerMiller]

Originally posted by: everman
What's wrong with E. Coli? It's like the white mice of genetic engineering and a workhorse. We also happen to depend on it for our own lives.

Seconded. Without e. coli, diabetics would still be using pig insulin.

 

[Mark R]

It's largely due to different attitudes between the different governments.

European legislators have traditionally taken the overcautious approach for pretty much everything - there are crazy regulations for the most ridiculous things. Many of these things claim to be based on scientific evidence, but the evidence is frequently misinterpreted or its importance over stated. Essentially, the governemtns have tried to give minority voices a large role in developing legislation, as long as they could provide a cogent argument.


In the US, there's the suggestion that governments have often bowed to big business, and avoiding legislation that could hurt big business or 'the economy. E.g. the Kyoto protocol, admittedly it was pissing in the ocean, as regards climate change - but US concerns of 'the economy' meant that the government wouldn't even consider applying a very simple set of regulations. In the US, historically, corporations have got away with relatively dramatic harm, until it was clear that harm was being done - at which point, once the public became armed with evidence, the game was up (e.g. the tobacco companies).

The European approach has been to protect the public from risk, at any cost. And this, has potentially serious effects. One set of European law, that comes into effect in 2008, essentially bans the use of MRI scanners in hospitals. The scientific basis for this was some very weak research suggesting that there might be some biological effects from radio frequency energy and magnetic field (e.g. cell phone masts and power lines), but the law was designed in such a way as to disallow any exceptions at all. Even the scientists who wrote the original research, have stated that the law quotes thier research out of context - and that their research only set out to show whether there 'might be a biological effect', and not if that effect (if any) was harmful.

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: Descartes

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: Descartes

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: Pepsi90919

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
The European Union requires companies to label all GM food, how come the U.S. doesn't require this? If we require ingredients to be listed, then we sure as heck should know whether the food was genetically modified or not. I don't want to put that crap into my body, just like I wouldn't want to eat a pizza that had 4g of Trans Fat/serving.

Because for all intents and purposes it doesnt matter?

Actually it does, I don't like the idea of putting e.coli DNA (used to alter plant cell DNA) and RoundUp resistant bacteria into my body, k-thanks. There's a reason why Japan and the EU absolutely refuse to accept any GM imports, and why they have labelling if they do contain GM foods. Ignorance is bliss I guess.

you should know.

:roll: Maybe you could give me tips on how to pimp my lame "internet services business" and put it in my sig too?

My microbiology professor this morning happened to tell a story about how tons of GM grain was offered to Zambia, so they wouldn't starve.

They refused to eat it, preferring to starve, out of ignorance.

The grain was modified to grow better in nutrient poor soil, and to have its own anti-insectisidal agents. The net result - it would grow better, faster, and DIDN'T need spraying.

Many countries and their people have very rigid philisophical or religious definitions as to how their food should be cultivated and consumed. I'm not familiar with Zambia, but I know Ethiopia is very much a proponent of sustainable farming practices simply because that's what they've always done. They do this without going through the process of certifying their crop as organic. The prime example of this is Ethiopian coffee. Other more general examples would be Islamic Halal, Jewish Kosher and, to a lesser extent, Indian Hindu philosophy; I know not all Hindus subscribe to the same philisophical/religious doctrine in this regard though.

So, you can call it ignorance if you like, but some people have principles that lead them into a position of sacrifice. I can only assume that we'd be in a far better position now if we only had more people take a stand against the incredible sacrifices that we've made to promote the methods of mass agriculture.

Sacrifies like booming population, abundant food supply, cheap foods, and a world surplus of food?

Oh, right, medieval 'sustainable' methods, and having to spend upwards of half your income on food was far superior.

Do you ever have anything worthwhile to contribute? Your posts are always full of rhetoric, silly flippancy and hopeless sarcasm. If you're not calling someone an idiot you make stupid strawman remarks like you did above. I don't think I've seen any post of yours that was contrary to this.

I've found it better just to ignore the little troll. Nothing he says can be taken seriously.

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: LordMorpheus

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
The European Union requires companies to label all GM food, how come the U.S. doesn't require this? If we require ingredients to be listed, then we sure as heck should know whether the food was genetically modified or not. I don't want to put that crap into my body, just like I wouldn't want to eat a pizza that had 4g of Trans Fat/serving.

Because for all intents and purposes it doesnt matter?

Actually it does, I don't like the idea of putting e.coli DNA (used to alter plant cell DNA) and RoundUp resistant bacteria into my body, k-thanks. There's a reason why Japan and the EU absolutely refuse to accept any GM imports, and why they have labelling if they do contain GM foods. Ignorance is bliss I guess.

You tell me.

Read the rest of the thread, don't stop at this post. BTW, my future kids thank you for ingesting GM foods today for a safer tomorrow.

 

[BD2003]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: LordMorpheus

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
The European Union requires companies to label all GM food, how come the U.S. doesn't require this? If we require ingredients to be listed, then we sure as heck should know whether the food was genetically modified or not. I don't want to put that crap into my body, just like I wouldn't want to eat a pizza that had 4g of Trans Fat/serving.

Because for all intents and purposes it doesnt matter?

Actually it does, I don't like the idea of putting e.coli DNA (used to alter plant cell DNA) and RoundUp resistant bacteria into my body, k-thanks. There's a reason why Japan and the EU absolutely refuse to accept any GM imports, and why they have labelling if they do contain GM foods. Ignorance is bliss I guess.

You tell me.

Read the rest of the thread, don't stop at this post. BTW, my future kids thank you for ingesting GM foods today for a safer tomorrow.

Your future kids will be genetically modified. GASP!! :Q

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: LordMorpheus

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
The European Union requires companies to label all GM food, how come the U.S. doesn't require this? If we require ingredients to be listed, then we sure as heck should know whether the food was genetically modified or not. I don't want to put that crap into my body, just like I wouldn't want to eat a pizza that had 4g of Trans Fat/serving.

Because for all intents and purposes it doesnt matter?

Actually it does, I don't like the idea of putting e.coli DNA (used to alter plant cell DNA) and RoundUp resistant bacteria into my body, k-thanks. There's a reason why Japan and the EU absolutely refuse to accept any GM imports, and why they have labelling if they do contain GM foods. Ignorance is bliss I guess.

You tell me.

Read the rest of the thread, don't stop at this post. BTW, my future kids thank you for ingesting GM foods today for a safer tomorrow.

Your future kids will be genetically modified. GASP!! :Q

OMG, NO! :brokenheart:

 

[shadow9d9]

America only cares about money.