Lab Created Diamonds

BrownTown

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most, possibly all industrial diamonds are made this way.

This isn't Zirconium, its 100% real diamond, just made in a lab, not pulled from the ground.
 

Tiamat

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Originally posted by: doze
Just don't tell your girl they came from a lab

Also dont tell your girl that diamonds aren't actually for forever. Good thing most girls don't pay attention that day in thermodynamics lecture :laugh:
 

herkulease

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known about this for sometime.

they can even take the ashes of family members and during it into a gem/diamond for you.

But someone I doubt I'll get these.

something about blood diamonds just intrigues me. Unless we're talking 50% cheaper.
 

BrownTown

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yeah, there's something cool about knowing your diamonds were mined by slaves in order to finance ethnic cleansing :p.
 

jagec

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Originally posted by: herkulease

something about blood diamonds just intrigues me. Unless we're talking 50% cheaper.

That or more, actually. From the little blurb that I read once. I wouldn't swear to it...
 

jpeyton

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As worthless as a gemstone might be if we didn't arbitrarily assign value to them, there is always something I find intriguing about a natural stone that took millions of years to materialize versus something inside an autoclave in some warehouse. Chemically the same yes...but the journey there is vastly different.
 

Colt45

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Are these the ones made on the soviet machines?

from what i remember the russians were planning on using them as a substrate for IC's, rather than jewelery.
 

Wreckem

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
As worthless as a gemstone might be if we didn't arbitrarily assign value to them, there is always something I find intriguing about a natural stone that took millions of years to materialize versus something inside an autoclave in some warehouse. Chemically the same yes...but the journey there is vastly different.

But your girl will never know the difference.
 

masterxfob

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for a "fake" diamond, they're pretty damned expensive. i'd rather spend a little more and get the real thing.
 

Rastus

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Jewelers want the synthetic diamonds branded because they can't tell the difference, even with equipment.
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: Wreckem
Originally posted by: jpeyton
As worthless as a gemstone might be if we didn't arbitrarily assign value to them, there is always something I find intriguing about a natural stone that took millions of years to materialize versus something inside an autoclave in some warehouse. Chemically the same yes...but the journey there is vastly different.

But your girl will never know the difference.

Unless she ever gets her jewelry appraised for replacement value (which happens more often than you think).
 

jagec

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Unless she ever gets her jewelry appraised for replacement value (which happens more often than you think).

And how, exactly, are they going to tell that it is artificial?
 

Colt45

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Wreckem
Originally posted by: jpeyton
As worthless as a gemstone might be if we didn't arbitrarily assign value to them, there is always something I find intriguing about a natural stone that took millions of years to materialize versus something inside an autoclave in some warehouse. Chemically the same yes...but the journey there is vastly different.

But your girl will never know the difference.

Unless she ever gets her jewelry appraised for replacement value (which happens more often than you think).


it's a real diamond. it's better than most real diamonds, its completely flawless. you can't tell them apart. its not a zircon or something.
 

aceO07

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
As worthless as a gemstone might be if we didn't arbitrarily assign value to them, there is always something I find intriguing about a natural stone that took millions of years to materialize versus something inside an autoclave in some warehouse. Chemically the same yes...but the journey there is vastly different.

From everything that I've read about the the later part of the journey, when it's getting mined, it wasn't an enjoyable journey.
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: Colt45
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Wreckem
Originally posted by: jpeyton
As worthless as a gemstone might be if we didn't arbitrarily assign value to them, there is always something I find intriguing about a natural stone that took millions of years to materialize versus something inside an autoclave in some warehouse. Chemically the same yes...but the journey there is vastly different.

But your girl will never know the difference.

Unless she ever gets her jewelry appraised for replacement value (which happens more often than you think).


it's a real diamond. it's better than most real diamonds, its completely flawless. you can't tell them apart. its not a zircon or something.

I'm not praising one over the other; whatever she's happy with works. Any 'created' stone has to be labeled as such. In the case of diamonds, it's a trademark or symbol laser etched onto the surface. All I was doing was pointing out the futility of trying to hide the fact that it was lab created, because any decent appraiser will be able to tell the difference and will adjust the valuation accordingly.

I know it doesn't make logical sense, but a near-perfect natural stone is worth more than a perfect created stone because the former is a rarity. Otherwise we would have dirt cheap flawless diamonds in everything from costume jewelry to celebrity pieces.
 

yhelothar

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Meh.. diamonds mostly are only so valuable to women because they're expensive.
If diamond making became as cheap as making glass.. no one would care about them anymore. Women care more about the fact that you made a sacrafice than the actual thing. I learned that when a girl who loved guys giving her flowers told me that she didn't care much for the flowers, but the fact that you spent money on something you thought is pointless.. just for her. So I asked her, what if I brought flowers from my yard, and made it look as professional as the ones store bought. She told me it would lose the value.
 

Cristatus

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There are two methods, either HTHP, and some other one that I can't remember the name of.

Anyways, from what I heard, they will be using these diamonds for industrial purposes because having so many IF (internally flawless) or LC (loupe clean, i.e. clean to the eye) diamonds would completely destroy the diamond (for jewelery) market, which is pretty huge as it is.