L.A. Times suppressing a tape of Obama praising Rashid Khalidi??

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Balt

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Originally posted by: quest55720
Originally posted by: Balt
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Might be a wash, but we still have a right to see the tape.

Supposedly there are some moments that turn into Israel bashing.

Nah, you really don't. It's their private property and they've decided not to make it available to the public. That is their right.

Your demands and indignation don't mean squat.

If it was fox news hiding a damaging palin tape people around here would be up in arms. They would want fox news off the air for hiding any such tape. I am not surprised that the MSM would hide a damaging tape to help Obama. The MSM will do anything and everything to ensure Obama winning. The MSM has killed any credibility it had this during this election.

They probably would, but it's irrelevant. You either believe they have the right to retain their private property or you don't.

If you want to argue that the LA Times is garbage for not making it public then go ahead, but to suggest that you have the right to view their property is nonsense.
 

jackschmittusa

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Caveman

And just what right do I appear to be giving up? The right to allow private property to remain private? The right of a newspaper to abide by an agreement to a source?

Have you recently suffered a head injury?
 

Viditor

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Originally posted by: Caveman

And your obsession with giving up your rights is totally illogical. Why are you so bent on police-state censorship?

Again more proof that both the Dums and Repugs use the same tactics.

Ummm...police-state censorship is when the state doesn't let you print something you want to print.
What you are suggesting is that you have an inherent right to view things that don't belong to you.
 

Jhhnn

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Confidentiality of sources is a long held journalistic right in this country. That's the reason stated by LAT for withholding the tape. They likely would have never obtained said copy w/o that constraint.

If the tape had contradicted Wallsten's account of the gathering, Wallsten would be out on his ass. Which indicates his original reporting to be fairly accurate.

Why are righties making such a big deal out of it? Because they're foundering, so they're willing to sink to the lowest conspiracy theory level of attack in an effort to gain some traction.

If repubs can win this election, it'd make Idiocracy prophecy rather than comedy...
 

T2T III

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Originally posted by: Miklebud
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
I love the smell of desperation in the morning.

:thumbsup:

That seems to be a standard response from the Democratic crowd around here. Please do keep in mind that if - and I do mean IF there's nothing harmful on that tape, then Obama himself should encourage the newspaper to release it for viewing. Seems pretty simple to me.
 

IronWing

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Originally posted by: T2T III
Originally posted by: Miklebud
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
I love the smell of desperation in the morning.

:thumbsup:

That seems to be a standard response from the Democratic crowd around here. Please do keep in mind that if - and I do mean IF there's nothing harmful on that tape, then Obama himself should encourage the newspaper to release it for viewing. Seems pretty simple to me.

Obama is likely too busy selecting his cabinet to concern himself with PJ's whining.
 

IronWing

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Maybe the LA Times can cut a deal. They release the tape and Cheney releases the secret minutes of his illegal energy policy meetings. It wouldn't be a fair deal as the Cheney minutes are public property and the tape isn't but as a news organization, the LA Times might go for it.
 

jackschmittusa

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T2T III

No, what's really simple is that neither you or Obama has any standing for calling for the release of the tape.

You have no credible evidence to suggest there is anything of interest to you on the tape. You have no probable cause to claim that the public has any reasonable need to see the tape.

How could it be any simpler?
 

Viditor

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Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
I'm sure the LA Times would do the same thing with a Sarah Palin video of similar content. ;)

They would have to...or risk their credibility with discrete sources (a paper's lifeblood).
 
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Originally posted by: Viditor
Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
I'm sure the LA Times would do the same thing with a Sarah Palin video of similar content. ;)

They would have to...or risk their credibility with discrete sources (a paper's lifeblood).

LOL...thanks for the laugh.
 

Viditor

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Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
Originally posted by: Viditor
Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
I'm sure the LA Times would do the same thing with a Sarah Palin video of similar content. ;)

They would have to...or risk their credibility with discrete sources (a paper's lifeblood).

LOL...thanks for the laugh.

Air must be thin up there on the 86th floor...
The source of the tape let them see it on guarantee tht they did not release it (fairly common). Do you expect that they would release it anyway?
 

chess9

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Newspapers get information from a variety of sources, many of them confidential. If a news organization started breaching it's confidentiality agreements, they'd lose sources. Word spreads very quickly among the political classes about which reporters can be trusted. So, this is primarily, I'm sure, a source/confidentiality issue.

Having said that, newspapers have a habit on sitting on a lot of embarrassing material. In Washington, this is especially true. For instance, many of your Congressmen have affairs with staffers and others that go unreported. Would the people of Arkansas or Texas like to know that their Representative is spending much of his time screwing a 20 year old intern? Probably. Would the Washington Post be likely to publish that information? Probably not, absent some very compelling reason to do so. Wilbur Mills comes to mind.

So, I would strongly suspect some reason other than comments by Barack Obama at that party as the reason the tape is being withheld.

But, if you really care, why don't you go looking for all the old party tapes of McCain from the 1970's? :) Or, perhaps you might ask why Brokow or Couric haven't reported McCain calling his wife a C**T?

-Robert
 
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Originally posted by: Viditor
Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
Originally posted by: Viditor
Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
I'm sure the LA Times would do the same thing with a Sarah Palin video of similar content. ;)

They would have to...or risk their credibility with discrete sources (a paper's lifeblood).

LOL...thanks for the laugh.

Air must be thin up there on the 86th floor...
The source of the tape let them see it on guarantee tht they did not release it (fairly common). Do you expect that they would release it anyway?

What is there to hide? This whole thing smells to me.

You a Doc Savage fan? :thumbsup:
 

heyheybooboo

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Originally posted by: T2T III
Originally posted by: Miklebud
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
I love the smell of desperation in the morning.

:thumbsup:

That seems to be a standard response from the Democratic crowd around here. Please do keep in mind that if - and I do mean IF there's nothing harmful on that tape, then Obama himself should encourage the newspaper to release it for viewing. Seems pretty simple to me.

Stop reaching. Your desperation is showing.

When Rashid Khalidi was leading the International Republican Institute John McCain was a financial supporter and he (McCain) is currently listed as he IRI?s board of directors chairman.

So ... Rashid Khalidi has ties to the PLO and has made anti-Israel statements ? ... he and McCain both served as chairman of the International Republican Institute

JOHN MCCAIN --- RASHID KHALIDI !!!

JOHN MCCAIN --- RASHID KHALIDI !!!

JOHN MCCAIN --- RASHID KHALIDI !!!

JOHN MCCAIN --- RASHID KHALIDI !!!

JOHN MCCAIN --- RASHID KHALIDI !!!

JOHN MCCAIN --- RASHID KHALIDI !!!

JOHN MCCAIN --- RASHID KHALIDI !!!
 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
Originally posted by: T2T III
Originally posted by: Miklebud
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
I love the smell of desperation in the morning.

:thumbsup:

That seems to be a standard response from the Democratic crowd around here. Please do keep in mind that if - and I do mean IF there's nothing harmful on that tape, then Obama himself should encourage the newspaper to release it for viewing. Seems pretty simple to me.

Stop reaching. Your desperation is showing.

When Rashid Khalidi was leading the International Republican Institute John McCain was a financial supporter and he (McCain) is currently listed as he IRI?s board of directors chairman.

So ... Rashid Khalidi has ties to the PLO and has made anti-Israel statements ? ... he and McCain both served as chairman of the International Republican Institute

JOHN MCCAIN --- RASHID KHALIDI !!!

JOHN MCCAIN --- RASHID KHALIDI !!!

JOHN MCCAIN --- RASHID KHALIDI !!!

JOHN MCCAIN --- RASHID KHALIDI !!!

JOHN MCCAIN --- RASHID KHALIDI !!!

JOHN MCCAIN --- RASHID KHALIDI !!!

JOHN MCCAIN --- RASHID KHALIDI !!!
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Jhhnn

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Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
I'm sure the LA Times would do the same thing with a Sarah Palin video of similar content. ;)

I'm sure they would, had they agreed to confidentiality when the tape was obtained.

From T2T III-

That seems to be a standard response from the Democratic crowd around here. Please do keep in mind that if - and I do mean IF there's nothing harmful on that tape, then Obama himself should encourage the newspaper to release it for viewing. Seems pretty simple to me.

Nice innuendo. Obama needs to stay out of it entirely, and has done so. The status of the tape is a matter strictly between the LAT and the party who provided it.

One of those "nunya" deals- as in "none of your business, you desperate boobs"...

Repubs have gone negative because there's not really much that's positive to be said about their ideology, policy or past performance. They really don't want the electorate to examine that, at all, so the only answer is an attempt to drag down the opposition with fearmongering, suspicion, innuendo and general mudslinging.

It's all they have, and it's been part and parcel of their methodology for decades.

Well, that and mindless chanting and sloganeering...
 

RightIsWrong

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That a group that McCain has chaired for the last twenty years gave a group that he founded almost a half million dollars!!

I wonder why he isn't blasting himself for financially supporting such a horrible person.

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Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., did a live interview with Radio Mambi in Miami this morning in which he went after Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., for his connections to a ?PLO spokesman.?

McCain was referring to Rashid Khalidi, who, five years ago, Obama toasted at a going-away party before Khalidi headed off to New York City to become a professor at Columbia University.

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But McCain has his own connection to Khalidi.

In 1993, McCain became chairman of the International Republican Institute. He still chairs that respected organization.

That same year, Khalidi helped found the Center for Palestine Research and Studies, self-described as ?an independent academic research and policy analysis institution? created to meet ?the need for active Palestinian scholarship on issues related to Palestine.? (Its archived Web site is HERE.)

Khalidi was on the board of trustees through 1999.

According to tax returns, the McCain-chaired IRI funded the organization Khalidi founded and served on to the tune of $448,873 in 1998 (click HERE to see the tax return)* as first reported by Seth Couter Walls at HuffPo.

The IRI continued to give money to the CPRS after Khalidi left the group as well.

Asked to respond to this seeming contradiction, McCain-Palin spokesman Michael Goldfarb writes, ?It's long been clear that Obama and Khalidi have a close relationship -- that they were frequent dinner companions. It is another in a series of questionable associations, but it is not the focus of our request that the LA Times release this tape. It's clear from the Times story that the evening featured speeches that were anti-Semitic in tone and anti-Israel in nature. As our initial statement said, 'This campaign wants to know how Barack Obama responded to that hate-speech, whether he was mingling with Ayers, who he once described as 'just a guy in my neighborhood,' and anything else that might be of interest to voters now deciding who to support in this election.'?

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ayabe

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Why is the LATimes protecting McCain?!!!


Elitists! Driveby media!

Boo, hiss, hang 'em!
 

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The levels of idiocy and hypocrisy in this thread are bordering on the insane.

1. John McCain is an unpaid director of the IRI. He does not participate in the day to day operations of this Congressionally chartered organization. There is no comparison between his role at IRI and someone sitting at a party while a bunch of anti-Semites toast the destruction of Israel.

2. It's the very height of hypocrisy when you claim that the LATimes has every right not to, and should not release this tape but cheered wildly when newspapers released classified information that put the Bush admin. in a bad light. Just be honest, you don't want this tape released because it might reflect badly on your messiah. Just admit it.