L.A. Times suppressing a tape of Obama praising Rashid Khalidi??

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yllus

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I just read the Wikipedia article on Mr. Khalidi and it doesn't sound all that awful. He seems to be more sympathetic with the Palestinians than with the Israelis. but as far as I've been able to ascertain that's not yet against the law in the United States of America. I also don't see what the issue is with Senator Obama's having conversed with the man, even regularly. While I realize that Israel is a close ally to the United States, they aren't faultless in the long history of that particular problem. You would think that having access to someone not likely to gloss over your ally's imperfections and understand your sometimes-friend, sometimes-enemy might be useful.

It's an interesting thing, this election of yours. There really seems to be honest disapproval occurring of ideas and dialogue coming from the right this time around that I've not seen before in my lifetime (I was lucky to miss the worst of the Red Scare). Goodness, he's talking to an Arab who doesn't think Israelis walk on water! Talking! I mean, he doesn't seem to actually share any of Mr. Khalidi's viewpoints, but we can't have a man who's willing to talk to anyone as our leader! A continued lack of communication and free exchange of ideas is clearly the road to peace in the Middle East.
 

seemingly random

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Originally posted by: eskimospy
So how many anti-Obama threads will the desperate crazies generate tomorrow? At first it was just one every few days, now the anti-McCain threads are mostly gone and it's all the usual suspects desperately posting thread after thread of ever more pathetic accusations in a desperate attempt to character assassinate Obama before next Tuesday.

It's gone from sad, to amusing, to annoying.
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We have to have some parameters though - such as begin and end times.

Maybe sweeten things with a desperation rating.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
For the confused...

The idea that the L.A. Times has the tape comes right from the LA times.
link to LA Times
The event was videotaped, and a copy of the tape was obtained by The Times.

It also says:

Obama adopted a different tone in his comments and called for finding common ground.



That happens a lot when running for president.

Well, yeah, note that this whole thread is about nothing more than the fact that he was there. PJ is trying to play it off like that is enough to draw suspicion, with this "where's the tape?" angle just a ploy to confuse those with double-digit IQ's.
 

sportage

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You know, the real thing here are some republicans, like this guy and old Rush L., feared hillary and wanted so much to run against Obama.
Now that they got their wish, they realized they blew it BIG TIME.
Obama has shown to be a far better choice, stronger choice than Hillary ever was. Republicans are SHOCKED!!!
Then you have high profile republicans supporting Obama added in the mix, and you see ditto head republicans like some here and Rush are in total panic "shit I cant believe this is happening" meltdown.

I'm still waiting for some mccain ad in these last few days to call Obama the "N" word.
Thats about the only crap they havent tried yet. At least in public on the air.
 

dahunan

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Profblowjo.. makes me HATE all Republicans and hope they are victims of random violence like Iraqis have been..

This is over the line, no matter how "metaphorically you meant it. 3 days off.

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zinfamous

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
The two Obama's

What he said at this event via the L.A. Times:
His many talks with the Khalidis, Obama said, had been "consistent reminders to me of my own blind spots and my own biases. . . . It's for that reason that I'm hoping that, for many years to come, we continue that conversation ? a conversation that is necessary not just around Mona and Rashid's dinner table,"

What he said to a Jewish audience in Boca Raton:
?[Khalidi] is Palestinian. And I do know him and I have had conversations. He is not one of my advisors; he?s not one of my foreign policy people. His kids went to the Lab school where my kids go as well. He is a respected scholar, although he vehemently disagrees with a lot of Israel?s policy... To pluck out one person who I know and who I?ve had a conversation with who has very different views than 900 of my friends and then to suggest that somehow that shows that maybe I?m not sufficiently pro-Israel, I think, is a very problematic stand to take?So we gotta be careful about guilt by association.?

Seems that once again Obama is trying to downplay his relationship with a questionable character.

I must be blind, but I don't see a single contradiction there. I have friends who are heavy into drugs and have opened my eyes to a world I was content to ignore... but I don't use or endorse the use of drugs. Is there hypocrisy there? No. Just because your acquaintances, friends or family do something does not mean you support or endorse it, which is exactly the point Obama was making to the Jewish audience in Florida.

No it just means you turn a blind eye to a problem. some of us fully know how bad parts of society are and we don't have to associate with people in that part of society to know about it.
By not condoning such actions you in fact support it.

How are university professors one of the bad parts of society?

They read books and try to get other people to read. BAAAAAD

BTW, the LA Times is owned by the Tribune Company...THE CHICAGO TRIBUNE :shocked:

oHNOES!!!!!!!
 

SecPro

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Originally posted by: Jhhnn
From SecPro-

I'm pretty sure it was Wallsten's column in the LA Times dated 10 April that said that the Times had a tape of the event.

Negative. That's just what the OP, the NRO and the Gateway Pundit want you to believe. Read the original blog, not the bits that PJ quotes to get the nature of the accusation-

I asked him if he was planning on releasing this video of Obama toasting the radical Khalidi at this Jew-bash. He told me he was not releasing the video.

"Him" is Wallsten, meaning this is merely an accusation from Jim Hoft, the Gateway blogger. That's it, that's all there is, no matter how well it's concealed...

So far, it's just another "whitey" tape, this time with a jewish flavor...

Sorry windbag. You, Vicky and the JerkofShitfield need to read the article again. Wallsten clearly says there is a tape. There is a tape. Why won't it be released? Maybe because it shows THE MESSIAH in a bad light or maybe because it shows nothing at all.
 

Jhhnn

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Originally posted by: SecPro
Originally posted by: Jhhnn
From SecPro-

I'm pretty sure it was Wallsten's column in the LA Times dated 10 April that said that the Times had a tape of the event.

Negative. That's just what the OP, the NRO and the Gateway Pundit want you to believe. Read the original blog, not the bits that PJ quotes to get the nature of the accusation-

I asked him if he was planning on releasing this video of Obama toasting the radical Khalidi at this Jew-bash. He told me he was not releasing the video.

"Him" is Wallsten, meaning this is merely an accusation from Jim Hoft, the Gateway blogger. That's it, that's all there is, no matter how well it's concealed...

So far, it's just another "whitey" tape, this time with a jewish flavor...

Sorry windbag. You, Vicky and the JerkofShitfield need to read the article again. Wallsten clearly says there is a tape. There is a tape. Why won't it be released? Maybe because it shows THE MESSIAH in a bad light or maybe because it shows nothing at all.

Not in the OP's linked article, nor in the blog it referenced. That was revealed only later in the thread, when the original LAT piece was linked.

Remarkable that all this furor arises just before the election, more than 7 months after the publication of the original article... apparently, the previous poo-flinging has proved ineffective, requiring re-evaluation of the dwindling stockpile...



 

retrospooty

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Originally posted by: seemingly random
Originally posted by: eskimospy
So how many anti-Obama threads will the desperate crazies generate tomorrow? At first it was just one every few days, now the anti-McCain threads are mostly gone and it's all the usual suspects desperately posting thread after thread of ever more pathetic accusations in a desperate attempt to character assassinate Obama before next Tuesday.

It's gone from sad, to amusing, to annoying.
37.

We have to have some parameters though - such as begin and end times.

Maybe sweeten things with a desperation rating.

that is an excellent idea... Lets do it. =)

1 Being you average pointless Progjohn Obama Bashing post and 10 being your 100% full on Butterbean paranoid closet gay rant. LOL
 

seemingly random

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Originally posted by: Jhhnn
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Remarkable that all this furor arises just before the election, more than 7 months after the publication of the original article... apparently, the previous poo-flinging has proved ineffective, requiring re-evaluation of the dwindling stockpile...
I'm sure the timing has nothing to do with a business trying to drum up controversy and viewers for its advertisers.
 

ProfJohn

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Originally posted by: Jhhnn
Not in the OP's linked article, nor in the blog it referenced. That was revealed only later in the thread, when the original LAT piece was linked.
Actually there is a quote of the LA Times article that mentions the tape in the OP.

Perhaps you need to re-read it.
 

djred678

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No wonder Obama voted for FISA and said US Constitution (including 1st Amendment) is a negative liberty. This guy wants to implement socialism and doesn't want anyone to get in his way.
 

Drift3r

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I AM FROTHING AT THE MOUTH WITH FALSE OUTRAGE HERE !! Can't you see I need something be outraged over?
 

ayabe

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I heard there's a tape out there of McCain sucking Reagan's cock, it's being suppressed.

Regardless, I'm appalled and ashamed.

 

Drift3r

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Originally posted by: sportage
You know, the real thing here are some republicans, like this guy and old Rush L., feared hillary and wanted so much to run against Obama.
Now that they got their wish, they realized they blew it BIG TIME.
Obama has shown to be a far better choice, stronger choice than Hillary ever was. Republicans are SHOCKED!!!
Then you have high profile republicans supporting Obama added in the mix, and you see ditto head republicans like some here and Rush are in total panic "shit I cant believe this is happening" meltdown.

I'm still waiting for some mccain ad in these last few days to call Obama the "N" word.
Thats about the only crap they havent tried yet. At least in public on the air.

ROTFLMAO !! I can see it now....."PLZ DON'T ELECT A N***** !!!!! PLZ !!! /insert John McCain's voice...."I am John McCain and I endorse this ad."
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Then releasing the tape will only show how foolish those of us on the right are, correct?

You forgot stupid and desperate.
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: eskimospy
So how many anti-Obama threads will the desperate crazies generate tomorrow? At first it was just one every few days, now the anti-McCain threads are mostly gone and it's all the usual suspects desperately posting thread after thread of ever more pathetic accusations in a desperate attempt to character assassinate Obama before next Tuesday.

It's gone from sad, to amusing, to annoying.

I think it's gone to hilarious. Every time I hear some distant boom I imagine one of them exploding.
 

LunarRay

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: eskimospy
So how many anti-Obama threads will the desperate crazies generate tomorrow? At first it was just one every few days, now the anti-McCain threads are mostly gone and it's all the usual suspects desperately posting thread after thread of ever more pathetic accusations in a desperate attempt to character assassinate Obama before next Tuesday.

It's gone from sad, to amusing, to annoying.

I think it's gone to hilarious. Every time I hear some distant boom I imagine one of them exploding.


I read on CNN.Com where Georgia has purged some multi thousand folks from the voter roles... most interesting part aside from the multi thousand errors is that the notice mailed to the folks purged (indicating they were not citizens) was dated October 2, 2008, post marked October 9, 2008 and indicated that folks had Seven days from the notice (letter's) date to respond or they would be not allowed to vote November 4, 2008... heheheheheh Deja Vu Florida 2000.

It is all normal politics. Folks figure they can capture votes - that they some how haven't otherwise compromised - by the scare tactic... Ya know, it works... it really works.
 

Analogsoul

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Yet another desperate attempt by the McCain campaign to try and show how "radical" Obama is. This is becoming pathetic considering a group headed by McCain gave a $500,000 grant to Khalidi. D'oh!.
 

Arkaign

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
For the confused...

The idea that the L.A. Times has the tape comes right from the LA times.
link to LA Times
The event was videotaped, and a copy of the tape was obtained by The Times.

It also says:

Obama adopted a different tone in his comments and called for finding common ground.



That happens a lot when running for president.

Well, yeah, note that this whole thread is about nothing more than the fact that he was there. PJ is trying to play it off like that is enough to draw suspicion, with this "where's the tape?" angle just a ploy to confuse those with double-digit IQ's.

:laugh:
 

Jhhnn

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Originally posted by: Analogsoul
Yet another desperate attempt by the McCain campaign to try and show how "radical" Obama is. This is becoming pathetic considering a group headed by McCain gave a $500,000 grant to Khalidi. D'oh!.

Oops! uhh, err, nevermind, OK?
 

ProfJohn

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Politico has jumped on this story now
link
partial quote
he paper hasn't explained its unwillingness to release the video, and Peter Wallsten, who found the tape and wrote about it, declined to discuss it with me last night. He forwarded an e-mail that the paper has sent readers who have complained as conservative blogs raise the issue.

"Over six months ago the Los Angeles Times published a detailed account of the events shown on the videotape. The Times is not suppressing anything. Just the opposite ? the L.A. Times brought the matter to light," wrote the readers' representative, Jamie Gold.

L.A. Times spokeswoman Nancy Sullivan wouldn't discuss the decision not to release the tape in detail.

"When we reported on the tape six months ago, that was our full report," she said, and asked, "Does Politico release unpublished information?"

The answer to that question is yes ? Politico and most news outlets constantly make available videos and documents, after describing them in part, which is why the Times' decision not to release the video is puzzling. My instinct, and many reporters', is to share as much source material as possible.

Critics have suggested that the Times is witholding the video for political reasons, but there are other possibilities: competitive reasons, or simply out of tradition. In the mechanics of reporting, there's another possibility as well. The video may have been given to the paper on the condition it not be released, or releasing it could compromise its source.

But the Times hasn't explained the move, and the McCain campaign is turning up the heat on a story that, whether or not the tape is released, is a reminder that some of Obama's Hyde Park friends stand well to the left of his stated positions.
 

jpeyton

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LATime released a statement saying their source agreed to provide them the tape as long as it wasn't released to the public.

They are bound by a standard journalist's confidentiality agreement.

Of course they would release the tape if they could have...the traffic it would have generated for their paper/website would have been epic.