L.A. Times suppressing a tape of Obama praising Rashid Khalidi??

ProfJohn

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So the L.A. Times, by their own admission, has a tape of the going away party given in honor of Rashid Khalidi.

At that party was Obama AND Bill Ayers, among others.

And Obama got up and gave a speech praising the guy.

Now why won't the L.A. Times release the tape to the media at large? What are they trying to hide? If there is nothing damaging then releasing the tape would be the easiest way to prove such a thing.

It will really be a shame if we have to wait till after election day before stuff like this gets released. The American people have the right to know this stuff NOW before they vote.
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Let?s try a thought experiment. Say John McCain attended a party at which known racists and terror mongers were in attendance. Say testimonials were given, including a glowing one by McCain for the benefit of the guest of honor ... who happened to be a top apologist for terrorists. Say McCain not only gave a speech but stood by, in tacit approval and solidarity, while other racists and terror mongers gave speeches that reeked of hatred for an American ally and rationalizations of terror attacks.

Now let?s say the Los Angeles Times obtained a videotape of the party.

Question: Is there any chance ? any chance ? the Times would not release the tape and publish front-page story after story about the gory details, with the usual accompanying chorus of sanctimony from the oped commentariat? Is there any chance, if the Times was the least bit reluctant about publishing (remember, we?re pretending here), that the rest of the mainstream media (y?know, the guys who drove Trent Lott out of his leadership position over a birthday-party toast) would not be screaming for the release of the tape?

Do we really have to ask?

So now, let?s leave thought experiments and return to reality: Why is the Los Angeles Times sitting on a videotape of the 2003 farewell bash in Chicago at which Barack Obama lavished praise on the guest of honor, Rashid Khalidi ? former mouthpiece for master terrorist Yasser Arafat?

At the time Khalidi, a PLO adviser turned University of Chicago professor, was headed east to Columbia. There he would take over the University?s Middle East-studies program (which he has since maintained as a bubbling cauldron of anti-Semitism) and assume the professorship endowed in honor of Edward Sayyid, another notorious terror apologist.

The party featured encomiums by many of Khalidi?s allies, colleagues, and friends, including Barack Obama, then an Illinois state senator, and Bill Ayers, the terrorist turned education professor. It was sponsored by the Arab American Action Network (AAAN), which had been founded by Khalidi and his wife, Mona, formerly a top English translator for Arafat?s press agency.

Is there just a teeny-weenie chance that this was an evening of Israel-bashing Obama would find very difficult to explain? Could it be that the Times, a pillar of the Obamedia, is covering for its guy?

Gateway Pundit reports that the Times has the videotape but is suppressing it.

Back in April, the Times published a gentle story about the fete. Reporter Peter Wallsten avoided, for example, any mention of the inconvenient fact that the revelers included Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn, Ayers?s wife and fellow Weatherman terrorist. These self-professed revolutionary Leftists are friendly with both Obama and Khalidi ? indeed, researcher Stanley Kurtz has noted that Ayers and Khalidi were ?best friends.? (And ? small world! ? it turns out that the Obamas are extremely close to the Khalidis, who have reportedly babysat the Obama children.)

Nor did the Times report the party was thrown by AAAN. Wallsten does tell us that the AAAN received grants from the Leftist Woods Fund when Obama was on its board ? but, besides understating the amount (it was $75,000, not $40,000), the Times mentions neither that Ayers was also on the Woods board at the time nor that AAAN is rabidly anti-Israel. (Though the organization regards Israel as illegitimate and has sought to justify Palestinian terrorism, Wallsten describes the AAAN as ?a social service group.?)

Perhaps even more inconveniently, the Times also let slip that it had obtained a videotape of the party.

Wallsten?s story is worth excerpting at length (italics are mine):
It was a celebration of Palestinian culture ? a night of music, dancing and a dash of politics. Local Arab Americans were bidding farewell to Rashid Khalidi, an internationally known scholar, critic of Israel and advocate for Palestinian rights, who was leaving town for a job in New York.

A special tribute came from Khalidi's friend and frequent dinner companion, the young state Sen. Barack Obama. Speaking to the crowd, Obama reminisced about meals prepared by Khalidi's wife, Mona, and conversations that had challenged his thinking.

His many talks with the Khalidis, Obama said, had been "consistent reminders to me of my own blind spots and my own biases. . . . It's for that reason that I'm hoping that, for many years to come, we continue that conversation ? a conversation that is necessary not just around Mona and Rashid's dinner table," but around "this entire world."...

[T]he warm embrace Obama gave to Khalidi, and words like those at the professor's going-away party, have left some Palestinian American leaders believing that Obama is more receptive to their viewpoint than he is willing to say.

Their belief is not drawn from Obama's speeches or campaign literature, but from comments that some say Obama made in private and from his association with the Palestinian American community in his hometown of Chicago, including his presence at events where anger at Israeli and U.S. Middle East policy was freely expressed.

At Khalidi's 2003 farewell party, for example, a young Palestinian American recited a poem accusing the Israeli government of terrorism in its treatment of Palestinians and sharply criticizing U.S. support of Israel. If Palestinians cannot secure their own land, she said, "then you will never see a day of peace."

One speaker likened "Zionist settlers on the West Bank" to Osama bin Laden, saying both had been "blinded by ideology."

Obama adopted a different tone in his comments and called for finding common ground. But his presence at such events, as he worked to build a political base in Chicago, has led some Palestinian leaders to believe that he might deal differently with the Middle East than ? his opponents for the White House....

At Khalidi's going-away party in 2003, the scholar lavished praise on Obama, telling the mostly Palestinian American crowd that the state senator deserved their help in winning a U.S. Senate seat. "You will not have a better senator under any circumstances," Khalidi said.

The event was videotaped, and a copy of the tape was obtained by The Times.

Though Khalidi has seen little of Sen. Obama in recent years, Michelle Obama attended a party several months ago celebrating the marriage of the Khalidis' daughter.

In interviews with The Times, Khalidi declined to discuss specifics of private talks over the years with Obama. He did not begrudge his friend for being out of touch, or for focusing more these days on his support for Israel ? a stance that Khalidi calls a requirement to win a national election in the U.S., just as wooing Chicago's large Arab American community was important for winning local elections.
So why is the Times sitting on the videotape of the Khalidi festivities? Given Obama's (preposterous) claims that he didn?t know Ayers that well and was unfamiliar with Ayers?s views, why didn't the Times report that Ayers and Dohrn were at the bash? Was it not worth mentioning the remarkable coincidence that both Obama and Ayers ? the ?education reform? allies who barely know each other ? except to the extent they together doled out tens of millions of dollars to Leftist agitators, attacked the criminal justice system, and raved about each others books ? just happen to be intimate friends of the same anti-American Israel-basher? (Despite having watched the videotape, Wallsten told Gateway Pundit he ?did not know? whether Ayers was there.)

Why won?t the Times tell us what was said in the various Khalidi testimonials? On that score, Ayers and Dohrn have always had characteristically noxious views on the Israeli/Palestinian dispute. And, true to form, they have always been quite open about them. There is no reason to believe those views have ever changed. Here, for example, is what they had to say in Prairie Fire, the Weather Underground?s 1974 Communist manifesto (emphasis in original):
Palestinian independence is opposed with reactionary schemes by Jordan, completely opposed with military terror by Israel, and manipulated by the U.S. The U.S.-sponsored notion of stability and status-quo in the Mideast is an attempt to preserve U.S. imperialist control of oil, using zionist power as the cat's paw. The Mideast has become a world focus of struggles over oil resources and control of strategic sea and air routes. Yet the Palestinian struggle is at the heart of other conflicts in the Mideast. Only the Palestinians can determine the solution which reflects the aspirations of the Palestinian people. No "settlements" in the Mideast which exclude the Palestinians will resolve the conflict. Palestinian liberation will not be suppressed.

The U.S. people have been seriously deceived about the Palestinians and Israel. This calls for a campaign to educate and focus attention on the true situation: teach-ins, debates, and open clear support for Palestinian liberation; reading about the Palestinian movement?The Disinherited by Fawaz Turki, Enemy of the Sun; opposing U.S. aid to Israel. Our silence or acceptance of pro-zionist policy is a form of complicity with U.S.-backed aggression and terror, and a betrayal of internationalism.

SELF-DETERMINATION FOR THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE!

U.S. OUT OF THE MIDEAST!

END AID TO ISRAEL!
Barack Obama wouldn?t possibly let something like that pass without a spirited defense of the Israel he tells us he so staunchly supports ? would he? I guess to answer that question, we?d have to know what was on the tape.

But who has time for such trifles? After all, isn?t Diana Vreeland about to critique Sarah Palin?s sartorial splendor?

 

ProfJohn

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The two Obama's

What he said at this event via the L.A. Times:
His many talks with the Khalidis, Obama said, had been "consistent reminders to me of my own blind spots and my own biases. . . . It's for that reason that I'm hoping that, for many years to come, we continue that conversation ? a conversation that is necessary not just around Mona and Rashid's dinner table,"

What he said to a Jewish audience in Boca Raton:
?[Khalidi] is Palestinian. And I do know him and I have had conversations. He is not one of my advisors; he?s not one of my foreign policy people. His kids went to the Lab school where my kids go as well. He is a respected scholar, although he vehemently disagrees with a lot of Israel?s policy... To pluck out one person who I know and who I?ve had a conversation with who has very different views than 900 of my friends and then to suggest that somehow that shows that maybe I?m not sufficiently pro-Israel, I think, is a very problematic stand to take?So we gotta be careful about guilt by association.?

Seems that once again Obama is trying to downplay his relationship with a questionable character.
 

sandorski

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This is another Failed Reach. The dude is/was a Columbia University Professor and Expert of Middle Eastern History. His biggest crime is criticizing US and Israeli Policy.
 

ProfJohn

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Originally posted by: sandorski
This is another Failed Reach. The dude is/was a Columbia University Professor and Expert of Middle Eastern History. His biggest crime is criticizing US and Israeli Policy.
Then releasing the tape will only show how foolish those of us on the right are, correct?
 

jpeyton

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Columbia professor?

Goddamn Ivy League liberal elitist ;)
 

OrByte

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His many talks with the Khalidis, Obama said, had been "consistent reminders to me of my own blind spots and my own biases. . . . It's for that reason that I'm hoping that, for many years to come, we continue that conversation ? a conversation that is necessary not just around Mona and Rashid's dinner table,"

Is that all there is? No "I hate whitey!!" speech??

seriously is that all there is?
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: sandorski
This is another Failed Reach. The dude is/was a Columbia University Professor and Expert of Middle Eastern History. His biggest crime is criticizing US and Israeli Policy.
Then releasing the tape will only show how foolish those of us on the right are, correct?

I'd bet on it.
 

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profjohn

McCain cannot pull us out of the hole. He is going to use the same tax policies that havent worked the last 10 years.

that is the only real issue in this election
 
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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
The two Obama's

What he said at this event via the L.A. Times:
His many talks with the Khalidis, Obama said, had been "consistent reminders to me of my own blind spots and my own biases. . . . It's for that reason that I'm hoping that, for many years to come, we continue that conversation ? a conversation that is necessary not just around Mona and Rashid's dinner table,"

What he said to a Jewish audience in Boca Raton:
?[Khalidi] is Palestinian. And I do know him and I have had conversations. He is not one of my advisors; he?s not one of my foreign policy people. His kids went to the Lab school where my kids go as well. He is a respected scholar, although he vehemently disagrees with a lot of Israel?s policy... To pluck out one person who I know and who I?ve had a conversation with who has very different views than 900 of my friends and then to suggest that somehow that shows that maybe I?m not sufficiently pro-Israel, I think, is a very problematic stand to take?So we gotta be careful about guilt by association.?

Seems that once again Obama is trying to downplay his relationship with a questionable character.

I must be blind, but I don't see a single contradiction there. I have friends who are heavy into drugs and have opened my eyes to a world I was content to ignore... but I don't use or endorse the use of drugs. Is there hypocrisy there? No. Just because your acquaintances, friends or family do something does not mean you support or endorse it, which is exactly the point Obama was making to the Jewish audience in Florida.
 

OrByte

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: sandorski
This is another Failed Reach. The dude is/was a Columbia University Professor and Expert of Middle Eastern History. His biggest crime is criticizing US and Israeli Policy.
Then releasing the tape will only show how foolish those of us on the right are, correct?

no, releasing the tape will only serve to empower the extreme fringe "thinkers" of the ultra-right. Regardless of the insinuation coming from the fringe.

something I think the LA Times will take pleasure in NOT doing.
 

heyheybooboo

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: sandorski
This is another Failed Reach. The dude is/was a Columbia University Professor and Expert of Middle Eastern History. His biggest crime is criticizing US and Israeli Policy.
Then releasing the tape will only show how foolish those of us on the right are, correct?

Well ...

You are the guy who said racism only exists in the South ...
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
The two Obama's

What he said at this event via the L.A. Times:
His many talks with the Khalidis, Obama said, had been "consistent reminders to me of my own blind spots and my own biases. . . . It's for that reason that I'm hoping that, for many years to come, we continue that conversation ? a conversation that is necessary not just around Mona and Rashid's dinner table,"

What he said to a Jewish audience in Boca Raton:
?[Khalidi] is Palestinian. And I do know him and I have had conversations. He is not one of my advisors; he?s not one of my foreign policy people. His kids went to the Lab school where my kids go as well. He is a respected scholar, although he vehemently disagrees with a lot of Israel?s policy... To pluck out one person who I know and who I?ve had a conversation with who has very different views than 900 of my friends and then to suggest that somehow that shows that maybe I?m not sufficiently pro-Israel, I think, is a very problematic stand to take?So we gotta be careful about guilt by association.?

Seems that once again Obama is trying to downplay his relationship with a questionable character.

How many of these threads are you going to make? At this point it seems like you must be getting paid, because I simply cannot believe you are this much of a hack for free. As Obama stated himself:

To pluck out one person who I know and who I?ve had a conversation with who has very different views than 900 of my friends and then to suggest that somehow that shows that maybe I?m not sufficiently pro-Israel, I think, is a very problematic stand to take," he said. "So we gotta be careful about guilt by association.

So once again Pro-Jo, even though you never answer these questions in other threads, what are you trying to say this says about Obama or his policy positions? Are you attempting to say he is anti-Israel? Is he a terrorist? What? Is he not supposed to talk to people who have differing viewpoints? Should he not be friends with respected scholars who have different politics than him? I didn't know we were supposed to live in ideological straitjackets so tight they even exclude from our circles of friendship anyone who doesn't toe the line.
 

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Why does this matter since you've alleged Obama isn't a natural born US citizen, but a natural born liar?

Anyway, the right wing thinks our president shouldn't have friends from the entire political spectrum. How is this any different than McCarthy's bashing of alleged communists?

The narrowness intrinsic in all of your posts is palpable. Do you have trouble keeping your pants up?

-Robert
 

ProfJohn

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Hey, all I want is for the tape to be released.

Can any of you make the argument that the public does NOT have the right to see this tape?
 

UberNeuman

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Hey, all I want is for the tape to be released.

Can any of you make the argument that the public does NOT have the right to see this tape?

It'll be released. Just not on your time table....:D
 

OrByte

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Hey, all I want is for the tape to be released.

Can any of you make the argument that the public does NOT have the right to see this tape?

I'd like the tape to be released too.

Just so that it would be another useless topic for the right to get all frothy over whilst the majority of America shrugs it off as just another lame attempt to associate Obama with all the bad scary "darkies" in Washington and Chicago.
 

theeedude

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Why is Obama talking to different people to form his opinions?
Can't he just get a talking point handbook or listen to AM radio instead?
 
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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Hey, all I want is for the tape to be released.

Can any of you make the argument that the public does NOT have the right to see this tape?

I would like the tape to be released, but to claim the public has the right to any video shot by a private party of a private function and held by a (separate) private party... That's the most absurd shit I've ever heard. If the tape isn't released, are you going to take it to court, arguing that we have the right to view this tape?

Just because you desire something doesn't mean you have a right to it.
 

fskimospy

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If the tape is newsworthy, the LA times should publish it.

So far I have seen absolutely no evidence that it is newsworthy. Only in the desperate world of Pro-Jo does Obama talking to highly respected scholars who have different viewpoints a bad thing.
 

Balt

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Hey, all I want is for the tape to be released.

Can any of you make the argument that the public does NOT have the right to see this tape?

If it is the private property of the L.A. Times they have the right to do whatever they want with it. They are not a publicly funded company.

edit: typo
 

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Originally posted by: dahunan
OK.. so what did this Rashid guy do wrong?

TELL US in your own words
Dude, the guy's name is RASHID KHALIDI.

That's reason enough. Flag his bags for extra screening, tell him to remove his shoes and belt, and pray you land in one piece.

;)

Sorry, just trying to channel some NRO and ProJo vibes.