Originally posted by: Lemon law
Atomic Playboy, you miss a number of very important points. (1) The dems have only had control of congress for 1.4 years. (2) The dems being weak and spineless is hardly an excuse for or an exoneration of the crimes of GWB&co. (3) Impeachment is basically an unproductive waste of time as long as 34 GOP Senators say no.
Your efforts to blame only democrats have no credibility as you fool only yourself.
If your grandchildren ever ask you that question, I am pretty confident they will be smart enough not to accept such a bullshit answer from you. Because its chock full of bullshiit from beginning to end.
When on Earth did I blame only Democrats? I voted a straight Democrat ticket in 2006 in the hopes that they would put an end to George W. Bush's unchecked power. And what have they done? They put Alberto Gonzales' feet to the fire (which I applaud), and had a motion to censure Bush (which was a complete waste of time). They also capitulated to Bush on budgetary matters, have continued rubber-stamping the Iraq war, and have not taken any considerable measures to curb Bush's abuse of power. Warrantless wire-tapping still happens, Guantanamo is still running, Bush continues to refuse to give evidence pertaining to Plame, or Libby, or the invasion of Iraq, or the politicization of the justice department, etc. One lone Representative introduces articles of impeachment with 7 months remaining in Bush's term, and that's supposed to make me happy? This should have come on November 8, 2006, right as Rumsfeld was announcing his retirement. Too little, too late, and I am not impressed in the slightest.
Now you can read that paragraph and see that I only mention Democrats and take it to mean that I hold Democrats responsible. But I don't honestly expect a majority of Republicans to vote for the impeachment of their guy, do you? I certainly don't expect them to introduce articles of impeachment against him. That's the opposing party's job, and in that regard, the Democrats have utterly failed in my estimation of what they should have done. I'm not going to vote for a single Republican who rubber-stamped Bush's policies during his tenure as President, which is why I vote Democrat to begin with. They have not been true to my intentions as a voter, nor to the constituents they represent, nor to the Constitution they swore to uphold, and I hold them just as responsible as the Republicans for what has happened (slightly more, actually, since the Republicans said from the beginning that they would go along with Bush, while the Democrats were elected on promises of stopping his tyranny).
And your points don't really address the crux of my argument. The Democrats have had control of Congress long enough to introduce an impeachment long before this eleventh hour gambit which is doomed to go nowhere. My objections to the cowardice of the Democratic leadership are not intended to convey an exoneration of Bush or his administration; certainly Bush and Co. are the larger problem. But when I vote for people because they tell me they are going to put a stop to this sort of behavior, and then they do nothing but continue the exact same politics that they ran a campaign against, it makes me upset. The Democratic leadership has betrayed my trust, has openly lied to me to be elected, and has abused the faith I placed in them for their own political gain. I'm not going to support that from anyone, Dem or Rep, because it is wrong. And finally, if, as you contend, impeachment is an unproductive waste of time when you don't have the votes, then why are you complaining that I called this an unproductive waste of time? I think we agree here, no?
I think we need to understand each other. I think Bush is the worst President in the modern era (I won't say ever, because I really don't know that much about the 19th Century or earlier). I think he and his administration have enacted reforms to try and strengthen the Executive branch at the expense of the Legislative and Judicial, I think he has undermined the Constitution on many occasions, I think he misrepresented intel to get us into an unjust war, I think he took steps to politicize the judiciary, I think he was complicit in exposing the identity of an undercover agent, I think he supports torture in defiance of the Geneva Convention, I think he blew the response to 9/11 and Katrina, I think he believes the laws do not apply to him and I believe he thinks himself a king. I hope Bush and his administration are tried, and convicted, of war crimes by the international court and I hope they live out their last days in the Hague. I also think the Democrats have not used anywhere near all the resources at their disposal to effectively stop Bush's reign of terror, I think they have intentionally kowtowed to him because of political pressure rather than doing what is in the best interest of the country, and while I don't feel their inaction is anywhere near as bad as Bush's actions, I do feel they misrepresented their intentions to get elected, and now they are content to maintain the status quo.
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