MongGrel
Lifer
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Most NK citizens are brainwashed/programmed.
They'll tell you exactly what the brainwashers have programmed them to tell you.
There is virtually no possible way that NK citizens are able to think clearly and rationally given their government and their isolation.
We're going to agree on this one. DCal is known for his anti-authoritarian positions which use NK as a shining example of freedom, prosperity, and enlightenment. No, that's not a joke. He'd have hung others here in the States, but Kim? There's a real love affair going on with DCal and him.
We're going to agree on this one. DCal is known for his anti-authoritarian positions which use NK as a shining example of freedom, prosperity, and enlightenment. No, that's not a joke. He'd have hung others here in the States, but Kim? There's a real love affair going on with DCal and him.
Most NK citizens are brainwashed/programmed.
They'll tell you exactly what the brainwashers have programmed them to tell you.
There is virtually no possible way that NK citizens are able to think clearly and rationally given their government and their isolation.
Interesting that OP refers to Shin as a traitor. What or whom did he betray exactly?
Title should be edited, it's clearly false. Some minor details of the story appear to be in question, that's the extent of it. It also doesn't matter one bit even if every word the guy said was a lie, there is plenty of incontrovertible evidence of just what kind of place NK really is. It's not based on one guy's story.
Yes, in a strictly technical sense, he is a 'traitor' to North Korea, but here in reality, I doubt anyone would characterize him in such a negative connotation nor call South Korea a puppet state, unless they had some pro-NK agenda.He defected to the puppet state and betrayed Korea, how else is he not a traitor.
No way. Just no way. He HAS to be using sarcasm, right? Please tell me it's sarcasm. Please?
I'm anti-authoritarian, but NK is pretty much the old-school example of an authoritarian/totalitarian regime.
At least here in the US, propaganda is hidden behind commercials and pushed out by the media, allowing a select minority to think rationally about their surroundings. In NK, it's old-fashioned do this or family members get disappeared, paired with virtually no outside contact. In essence, a cult that comprises a whole country.
Oh we wish we could, but he was the one in the other thread referring to the country without even basic electricity as having a vast intranet.
He defected to the puppet state and betrayed Korea, how else is he not a traitor.
Look at this grief. No leader was loved more than Kim Jong Il. No evil dictator would command such love.
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No. What he admitted that some of the details (for example, in which camp something happened, and the fact that he had not revealed that he'd attempted to escape twice before) were wrong. He continues to contend that pretty much all of the damning details written in the book about his experience in North Korean prison camps are true.He did not say all of it was lies. But I would still not consider him trust worthy.
"North" Korea has basic electricity, it is a beacon of light.
Look at this grief. No leader was loved more than Kim Jong Il. No evil dictator would command such love.
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On Friday Jan. 16, Shin told Harden a revised version of the story. While he was born at Camp 14, he spent part of his youth at another complex, Camp 18, escaping twice before landing back at the first camp, he now says. And it was at Camp 18, not at Camp 14, that he betrayed his mother and brother, sharing their plan to escape, and then witnessing their executions. This and other new details came to light after fellow defectors raised questions about the tale. The new timeline, first published by the Washington Post, has yet to be confirmed.
