http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/koenigsegg-regera-revealed-geneva-motor-show-2015-03-03
holy carp:
want to see the stig in this
holy carp:
want to see the stig in this
Koenigsegg Regera - eek
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Engine would basically drone as it won't be revving up over and over, it'll just build revs slowly and so it'd just slowly grow louder. For an idea of how it would go, play a video game like Gran Turismo, Forza/etc, put the car in it's final gear and then accelerate.
Hmm, I'm pretty sure there's still a transmission in there, as the hydraulic coupling basically replaces the clutch. Only thing I can think is they've basically turned it into a single gear setup so they did remove most of the transmission. The motors handle low speeds, and then combine with the engine at lower revs to provide ample torque/grunt (since using a tall enough gear, they mention 250mph so it's gonna be pretty tall, which would generally mean at lower revs the engine is going to struggle, but here they help that with the motors), and then they rely on the high engine output beyond that.
It's possible that I'm wrong, and I'm guessing that they're using the electric motors as an "e-diff" so they can even drop that and really simplify the drivetrain, effectively making it transmission-less where the hydraulic couple functions as the clutch and gear.
And you'll basically almost never be getting 1800hp (on Autblog they said 1500, although they said the 1100hp engine and 700hp motors, but you'll probably never be getting the max output of both). Seems like you'll be getting the most of the power in that lower intermediate range where the engine should be making a large portion of it's power, and the electric motors are still outputting, but then at higher speeds the engine takes over (so that it doesn't drain the batteries).
I think this is an interesting approach and definitely want to see how it fares in real driving. I'd be concerned with what happens when the batteries are drained or even just very low (would it then put all electricity into the crank motor to help the engine spool up?), as if they're struggling to provide the getup then the engine will be a real dog and might even stall it. But they make it sound like the engine can't even get coupled to the drive below about 30mph as the revs of the driveshaft or whatever mechanism they're using have to get up in order to get the engine to get coupled, and it actually seems to almost rely on the revs to start and get the motor up to speed, although that's somehow tied in with the small crankshaft mounted motor). Seems like if you're doing normal driving (even highway driving) you'll be hitting the batteries the most, but then people aren't going to be using these as daily drivers so it's not really a concern, but even for a track day that'd cause problems, it doesn't seem that the engine is used to recharge the batteries (but maybe it does at like highway speeds and around town driving? They mentioned something about when you're going to a charge station that it'll run on the motors to keep from wasting gas from the engine).
Hmm, I'm pretty sure there's still a transmission in there, as the hydraulic coupling basically replaces the clutch. Only thing I can think is they've basically turned it into a single gear setup so they did remove most of the transmission. The motors handle low speeds, and then combine with the engine at lower revs to provide ample torque/grunt (since using a tall enough gear, they mention 250mph so it's gonna be pretty tall, which would generally mean at lower revs the engine is going to struggle, but here they help that with the motors), and then they rely on the high engine output beyond that.
It's possible that I'm wrong, and I'm guessing that they're using the electric motors as an "e-diff" so they can even drop that and really simplify the drivetrain, effectively making it transmission-less where the hydraulic couple functions as the clutch and gear.
And you'll basically almost never be getting 1800hp (on Autblog they said 1500, although they said the 1100hp engine and 700hp motors, but you'll probably never be getting the max output of both). Seems like you'll be getting the most of the power in that lower intermediate range where the engine should be making a large portion of it's power, and the electric motors are still outputting, but then at higher speeds the engine takes over (so that it doesn't drain the batteries).
I think this is an interesting approach and definitely want to see how it fares in real driving. I'd be concerned with what happens when the batteries are drained or even just very low (would it then put all electricity into the crank motor to help the engine spool up?), as if they're struggling to provide the getup then the engine will be a real dog and might even stall it. But they make it sound like the engine can't even get coupled to the drive below about 30mph as the revs of the driveshaft or whatever mechanism they're using have to get up in order to get the engine to get coupled, and it actually seems to almost rely on the revs to start and get the motor up to speed, although that's somehow tied in with the small crankshaft mounted motor). Seems like if you're doing normal driving (even highway driving) you'll be hitting the batteries the most, but then people aren't going to be using these as daily drivers so it's not really a concern, but even for a track day that'd cause problems, it doesn't seem that the engine is used to recharge the batteries (but maybe it does at like highway speeds and around town driving? They mentioned something about when you're going to a charge station that it'll run on the motors to keep from wasting gas from the engine).
that is one tiny rear window
not sure I'd want to drive a car with the huge blind spot that thing has.
I kind of miss my probe because you could actually see the traffic around you quite easily.
I'm guessing that it has multiple cameras and proximity sensors for just that reason. They can't replace mirrors yet, but they can bolster your vision with cameras. That adds complexity and cost for normal cars, but for a car that will likely cost between 1 and 2 million dollars, it should be plenty feasible, especially with all the development in the past few years.
I'm actually surprised we're not seeing them drop that rear window altogether and just use a display that could offer a wider field of view. That'll be interesting for say OLED where they could combine the two (have an actual window, but also have the parts where the window can't be have the display fill in, but have just a large single seemless piece of glass or whatever for aesthetic reasons. I think they've been working to do something like this (Land Rover/Jaguar have been doing some interesting testing stuff, making it so you can see "through the dash and hood" and making the structural pillars have displays that they can fill in from a camera feed so it's like being able to see through them).
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that is one tiny rear window
not sure I'd want to drive a car with the huge blind spot that thing has.
It goes 93-155 in 3.2 secs. Are you trying to see all the cars you left in the dust?
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That 0-249 in 19 seconds sounds so insane, then I think about a top fuel or funny car dragster going 0-330 in under 4 seconds.
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Is it capable of that? yes. Will it always be driven in that manor? no. This a street legal car and you are going to be doing lane changes and such. If I have to do any sudden maneuvering it's be nice to see what you may hit.
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:thumbsup: I want to know why Richard Hammond has statues of lions with his face on them in front of his house.
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The older I get the more I understand and realize why the old school guys are the way they are.
I'm becoming one.
Here I am, reading this shit and should be excited, yet I feel quite the opposite.
I'm becoming one.
Here I am, reading this shit and should be excited, yet I feel quite the opposite.
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I agree somewhat....
The 'hypercars' are pretty cool to look at, but honestly, who but the .01% will ever get to even drive them? I prefer to focus on cars I could at least attain with some fiscal discipline or buy used down the road. Even oogling over a LFA is way different than this beast.
To each their own, right?
I agree somewhat....
The 'hypercars' are pretty cool to look at, but honestly, who but the .01% will ever get to even drive them? I prefer to focus on cars I could at least attain with some fiscal discipline or buy used down the road. Even oogling over a LFA is way different than this beast.
To each their own, right?
Well, above has always been the case. Perhaps when I was younger I didn't care as much about "being able to afford" and it was cool.
I have more beef with the technology they are putting into these cars and why they would do so. These hybrid Ferraris McLarens etc are just pathetic.
What was the last time Ferrari put stick shift into ANY of their cars?
Just this alone = I don't care about your car.
Now they do the electric motor crap, seriously?
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Really though? Up until the McClaren F1 (barring a very small number of other cars along the way) the 'hyper cars' didn't really much exist. The top-tier were your Ferraris, Lambos, etc. You are taking a few hundred thousand $$. Hyper cars are now a newer class, with a price a factor or ten greater.
Just go to Dubai! You'll see some guy valet his unicorn car without a second thought.
Koenigsegg are my favorite supercar makers. I just love the look. If I ever had millions to dispose of, I'd have to get me the latest model of this shortly after I get my McLaren F1.
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WTF, this thread turned into crotchety old man discussions? I get the general "oh another one, wow, hmm don't really care" as I was the same way with Pagani. And just in general, we've gotten a deluge of hypercars and stuff the past several years (there's definitely socio-economic issues at work but we'll leave that out of here), so I understand that too.
I don't mind it with Koenigsegg as the guy is really cool, he comes off as a guy you could sit and have a beer with and talk normal to, and he just wants to make spectacular cars and hope he can sell them. He's pushing technology in his works, but he's not being insufferable about it or anything. Compare it to stuff like the Ford GT where Ford talks about all the time spent on the design and blah-blah-blah and makes it sound like they think they're doing the Sistine Chapel. Same with most others and is like the polar opposite of someone like Pagani.
I'm definitely preferring Koenigsegg and Porsche to how Ferrari, McLaren, Pagani, and most of the others are acting with regards to their cars.
I also really want to like ShelbySuperCars (or SSC) as he seems similar, but there's been no real progress on his stuff it seems like. I was really hoping there'd be a great competition between him and Koenigsegg that would make them both better.
They're one of mine. I really like CVonK's style with regards to this. He wants everything bespoke and actually puts in the effort to learn how to accomplish that, and they do it justifiably and don't do it for fluff like Pagani, but because they want to learn/know all the components and how to fit them together to make both an incredible performing but also interesting car.
However, Koenigsegg looks are starting to get a little...they're getting overstyled somewhat to me and losing their simple elegance. It's actually reminding me of Audi (or even Lamborghini used to be in like the 70s) where they start with a good simple but effective design, but now they're slapping sharp creases, vents, and wings all over it and it's getting to be a bit much as it's not looking well integrated into the overall design. The Regera seems to be aiming to do that (integrate those things into the design) though.
I don't mind it with Koenigsegg as the guy is really cool, he comes off as a guy you could sit and have a beer with and talk normal to, and he just wants to make spectacular cars and hope he can sell them. He's pushing technology in his works, but he's not being insufferable about it or anything. Compare it to stuff like the Ford GT where Ford talks about all the time spent on the design and blah-blah-blah and makes it sound like they think they're doing the Sistine Chapel. Same with most others and is like the polar opposite of someone like Pagani.
I'm definitely preferring Koenigsegg and Porsche to how Ferrari, McLaren, Pagani, and most of the others are acting with regards to their cars.
I also really want to like ShelbySuperCars (or SSC) as he seems similar, but there's been no real progress on his stuff it seems like. I was really hoping there'd be a great competition between him and Koenigsegg that would make them both better.
They're one of mine. I really like CVonK's style with regards to this. He wants everything bespoke and actually puts in the effort to learn how to accomplish that, and they do it justifiably and don't do it for fluff like Pagani, but because they want to learn/know all the components and how to fit them together to make both an incredible performing but also interesting car.
However, Koenigsegg looks are starting to get a little...they're getting overstyled somewhat to me and losing their simple elegance. It's actually reminding me of Audi (or even Lamborghini used to be in like the 70s) where they start with a good simple but effective design, but now they're slapping sharp creases, vents, and wings all over it and it's getting to be a bit much as it's not looking well integrated into the overall design. The Regera seems to be aiming to do that (integrate those things into the design) though.
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