Kobe's defense team alleging victim had consensual sex the morning after the rape

Nitemare

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Originally posted by: maddogchen
Will that be admissible? i thought you can't bring in the victim's sex life

I'm pretty sure 100% of all rape victims will not be having consensual sex within 12 hours of being raped
 

Francesca

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I don't know why it would be a "Slam dunk". Maybe the judge will let him off, but it's not as if that has anything to do with whether she was raped or not. Some women, in response to the trauma of rape will become sexually involved with someone to 'erase' the filthy feeling of the rape. It's a way to take back control and make sex normal again. It's not a common occurance. Most of the time a woman will feel the need to avoid touch. But just because it's not heard about often doesn't make it a valid reason behind her actions. As for being promiscuous, that's her choice. But I'm betting that she decided who she slept with and who she didn't.

It should never matter how many men a woman slept with if she's accused a man of rape. Just because she's slept with multiple men doesn't mean that she consented to sleep with that one that wouldn't take no for an answer.
 

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Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: maddogchen
Will that be admissible? i thought you can't bring in the victim's sex life

I'm pretty sure 100% of all rape victims will not be having consensual sex within 12 hours of being raped

Yes - very suspicious if true.

FREE KOBE!
 

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Originally posted by: Francesca
I don't know why it would be a "Slam dunk". Maybe the judge will let him off, but it's not as if that has anything to do with whether she was raped or not. Some women, in response to the trauma of rape will become sexually involved with someone to 'erase' the filthy feeling of the rape. It's a way to take back control and make sex normal again. It's not a common occurance. Most of the time a woman will feel the need to avoid touch. But just because it's not heard about often doesn't make it a valid reason behind her actions. As for being promiscuous, that's her choice. But I'm betting that she decided who she slept with and who she didn't.

It should never matter how many men a woman slept with if she's accused a man of rape. Just because she's slept with multiple men doesn't mean that she consented to sleep with that one that wouldn't take no for an answer.

Except she's saying she did not have sex with anyone afterwards. f the defense team can prove that she is lieing about that her credibility is shot. It is her word against his, and she will have been proven a liar.
 

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Originally posted by: Francesca
I don't know why it would be a "Slam dunk". Maybe the judge will let him off, but it's not as if that has anything to do with whether she was raped or not. Some women, in response to the trauma of rape will become sexually involved with someone to 'erase' the filthy feeling of the rape. It's a way to take back control and make sex normal again. It's not a common occurance. Most of the time a woman will feel the need to avoid touch. But just because it's not heard about often doesn't make it a valid reason behind her actions. As for being promiscuous, that's her choice. But I'm betting that she decided who she slept with and who she didn't.

It should never matter how many men a woman slept with if she's accused a man of rape. Just because she's slept with multiple men doesn't mean that she consented to sleep with that one that wouldn't take no for an answer.


a common occurance? are you basing this off of studies or are you pulling facts out of your arse?
 

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Originally posted by: DougK62
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: maddogchen
Will that be admissible? i thought you can't bring in the victim's sex life

I'm pretty sure 100% of all rape victims will not be having consensual sex within 12 hours of being raped

Yes - very suspicious if true.

FREE KOBE!
Just because its being alledged by the defense, doesn't make it true... It could very well be an attempt to smear the reputation of the victim...

Free Kobe... if in fact he is innocent
Nail him to the wall if he is not....



 

Francesca

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a common occurance? are you basing this off of studies or are you pulling facts out of your arse?



*goes into specifying mode*

It is not a common occurence for a woman that was raped to have sex within a very short time frame of the rape.
 

Francesca

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Except she's saying she did not have sex with anyone afterwards. f the defense team can prove that she is lieing about that her credibility is shot. It is her word against his, and she will have been proven a liar.



Yeah, but someone could say that she lied because she thought that people would be closed minded and automatically assume that she wasn't raped just because of that incident. And let's face it, that is very much what would have happened and is happening in a lot of people's minds. The general public, and the jury, won't see it as a lie. They'll probably just focus on the sex itself and the timing of it.
 

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Originally posted by: Francesca
I don't know why it would be a "Slam dunk". Maybe the judge will let him off, but it's not as if that has anything to do with whether she was raped or not. Some women, in response to the trauma of rape will become sexually involved with someone to 'erase' the filthy feeling of the rape. It's a way to take back control and make sex normal again. It's not a common occurance. Most of the time a woman will feel the need to avoid touch. But just because it's not heard about often doesn't make it a valid reason behind her actions. As for being promiscuous, that's her choice. But I'm betting that she decided who she slept with and who she didn't.

It should never matter how many men a woman slept with if she's accused a man of rape. Just because she's slept with multiple men doesn't mean that she consented to sleep with that one that wouldn't take no for an answer.

Im sorry but your rational is just plan

DUMB

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Nitemare

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Originally posted by: Francesca
Except she's saying she did not have sex with anyone afterwards. f the defense team can prove that she is lieing about that her credibility is shot. It is her word against his, and she will have been proven a liar.



Yeah, but someone could say that she lied because she thought that people would be closed minded and automatically assume that she wasn't raped just because of that incident. And let's face it, that is very much what would have happened and is happening in a lot of people's minds. The general public, and the jury, won't see it as a lie. They'll probably just focus on the sex itself and the timing of it.

No Comment ring a bell?
 

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Originally posted by: Francesca
Except she's saying she did not have sex with anyone afterwards. f the defense team can prove that she is lieing about that her credibility is shot. It is her word against his, and she will have been proven a liar.



Yeah, but someone could say that she lied because she thought that people would be closed minded and automatically assume that she wasn't raped just because of that incident. And let's face it, that is very much what would have happened and is happening in a lot of people's minds. The general public, and the jury, won't see it as a lie. They'll probably just focus on the sex itself and the timing of it.

wow you are really stretching, what next, she wanted to have sex shortly after because something in her soup told her so? Yeah they can use that excuse too!
 

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Originally posted by: Francesca
Except she's saying she did not have sex with anyone afterwards. f the defense team can prove that she is lieing about that her credibility is shot. It is her word against his, and she will have been proven a liar.



Yeah, but someone could say that she lied because she thought that people would be closed minded and automatically assume that she wasn't raped just because of that incident. And let's face it, that is very much what would have happened and is happening in a lot of people's minds. The general public, and the jury, won't see it as a lie. They'll probably just focus on the sex itself and the timing of it.

Oh, ok. So it is OK to lie in court to avoid people judging her. Because I mean, court isn't for judging or anything.

I hope the bitch gets nailed with a counter-suit and purgery.
 

Dragnov

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Also alleging that she had sex with multiple partners the week before, not only the morning after. If true, all I can say is damn she gives it up easily.
 

Nitemare

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Originally posted by: eakers
perhaps they need to bring kobes sex life into this too.

In all this time since the rape allegation and noone has come forward to get their 15 minutes..I'd say the man is fairly squeaky clean
 

Francesca

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I hope the bitch gets nailed with a counter-suit and purgery.


Since police statements are usually not given under oath I doubt perjury would stick. Unless you meant you hope she's bulimic...
 

maddogchen

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I don't get why if she did it with someone hours after, that the man did not come out and say it. All these months, why did he keep it silent?
 

PanzerIV

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This woman obviously had many emotionally troubling issues as evident with leaked details of her life. It's hard to say for certain what happened because it only boils down to the word of two individuals. Having said that, given the evidence that we've seen so far it only serves to make her suspect. Of course I realize we've not seen or heard everything so there probably is more than meets the eye but at this point it puts her lifestyle in a bad light.
 

Spencer278

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Why is it so wrong to look at the sex life of someone claim rape. If kobe had gone out and raped another girl that same night one would reasonible assume that the he also did rape the person claim rape. With no physical evidence they only thing that could possible be used to judge who is lieing is the pririor actions of both parties.