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Kobe to stand trial for sexual assault...

I hope he gets off on a technicality. He is an icon, he doesn't need to be ruined by some tramp who knew what she was getting into.
 
Originally posted by: edro13
I hope he gets off on a technicality. He is an icon, he doesn't need to be ruined by some tramp who knew what she was getting into.

Yes, it's true. Kobe is a god and can do no wrong.
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Originally posted by: edro13
I hope he gets off on a technicality. He is an icon, he doesn't need to be ruined by some tramp who knew what she was getting into.

here we go...
 
Originally posted by: edro13
I hope he gets off on a technicality. He is an icon, he doesn't need to be ruined by some tramp who knew what she was getting into.


So she should have expected to be raped??

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Originally posted by: edro13
I hope he gets off on a technicality. He is an icon, he doesn't need to be ruined by some tramp who knew what she was getting into.

Sure, she was planning on being raped. Because secretly all girls want to be.
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- M4H
 
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: edro13
I hope he gets off on a technicality. He is an icon, he doesn't need to be ruined by some tramp who knew what she was getting into.


So she should have expected to be raped??

rolleye.gif

Calm down everyone!. In edro13's defense, had he been raped by Kobe, he wouldn't have reported it cuz it would've been an honor.
 
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: edro13
I hope he gets off on a technicality. He is an icon, he doesn't need to be ruined by some tramp who knew what she was getting into.

Sure, she was planning on being raped. Because secretly all girls want to be.
rolleye.gif


- M4H

And in LordMaul's case, guy too 😀
 
For anyone who's followed this case, being bound over for trial appeared to be nothing but a forgone conclusion prior to the prelim. Mere 'probable cause' needed to be established. Since both Kobe and the alleged victim both agreed to being in the same room at the same time and having some sort of sexual activities take place, that leaves an alleged rape certainly within the realm of possibilities. This decision came as no surprise to me or any legal analysts I bet.

Personally, I think the seeds of reasonable doubt have already been planted at this point. Provided no 'blockbuster' evidence is introduced by the prosecution (and the prosecution was certainly already reeling from this relatively inconsequential prelim), all I see is a bunch of hearsay and some questionable circumstantial evidence at best. Acquittal is now the 'forgone conclusion' IMO.
 
Originally posted by: LordUnum
For anyone who's followed this case, being bound over for trial appeared to be nothing but a forgone conclusion prior to the prelim. Mere 'probable cause' needed to be established. Since both Kobe and the alleged victim both agreed to being in the same room at the same time and having some sort of sexual activities take place, that leaves an alleged rape certainly within the realm of possibilities. This decision came as no surprise to me or any legal analysts I bet.

Personally, I think the seeds of reasonable doubt have already been planted at this point. Provided no 'blockbuster' evidence is introduced by the prosecution (and the prosecution was certainly already reeling from this relatively inconsequential prelim), all I see is a bunch of hearsay and some questionable circumstantial evidence at best. Acquittal is now the 'forgone conclusion' IMO.

Actually I agree... I believe there's already enough resonable doubt to acquite him... maybe the prosecution will see this and agree to deal, and this whole thing will not go to trail afterall...
 
Originally posted by: LordUnum
For anyone who's followed this case, being bound over for trial appeared to be nothing but a forgone conclusion prior to the prelim. Mere 'probable cause' needed to be established. Since both Kobe and the alleged victim both agreed to being in the same room at the same time and having some sort of sexual activities take place, that leaves an alleged rape certainly within the realm of possibilities. This decision came as no surprise to me or any legal analysts I bet.

Personally, I think the seeds of reasonable doubt have already been planted at this point. Provided no 'blockbuster' evidence is introduced by the prosecution (and the prosecution was certainly already reeling from this relatively inconsequential prelim), all I see is a bunch of hearsay and some questionable circumstantial evidence at best. Acquittal is now the 'forgone conclusion' IMO.

You talk big but apparently you don't actually know anything about the prelim. The prosecution only gave up 1 key witness. They are not supposed to lay all their cards out on the table.

They have a bunch of more evidence that was not told in that room. The object of the prelim is to just show enough to send it to trial.

The D.A. knew ahead of time that she had been with other people. They also knew about the other panties. But they weren?t there to win a trial, they were just there to get it to trial, which they did. They are not looking for "beyond a reasonable doubt" (fyi this isn't a murder case).
 
Originally posted by: cheapbidder01
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: edro13
I hope he gets off on a technicality. He is an icon, he doesn't need to be ruined by some tramp who knew what she was getting into.


So she should have expected to be raped??

rolleye.gif

Calm down everyone!. In edro13's defense, had he been raped by Kobe, he wouldn't have reported it cuz it would've been an honor.

LMAO 😀
 
Originally posted by: edro13
I hope he gets off on a technicality. He is an icon, he doesn't need to be ruined by some tramp who knew what she was getting into.

I hope he goes to jail. Who the hell cares if he's a profesionally basketball player, that doesn't mean he's above the law.
 
Originally posted by: Anubis
am i the only one that dosent give a fusk about this

No, I don't really care either. I'm sure if he's found guilty it will be because the jury was "racist" and if he's acquitted it will be because he's a celebrity.
 
It's funny but I think Kobe is gonna get put in jail for the maximum sentence lol... reason why? Because he's a celebrity!
 
Originally posted by: LikeLinusYou talk big but apparently you don't actually know anything about the prelim. The prosecution only gave up 1 key witness. They are not supposed to lay all their cards out on the table.

Yeah, and? The point is that the defense has already seeded significant reasonable doubt when they claimed to have evidence of pubic hair and semen from another male in the alleged victim's panties. This was confirmed by Denver's own police force when they admitted that the alleged victim had told them she had consensual sex with another male within 48 hours of the alleged rape.

They have a bunch of more evidence that was not told in that room. The object of the prelim is to just show enough to send it to trial.

And for all we know that evidence is weak and circumstantial at best. Even if it's not, it would have to be quite a bit of bombshell evidence for the jury to convict Kobe, like a video recording of the incident or something. As most legal experts will tell you, the defense put forth a great deal of reasonable doubt in just the prelim, and that was not expected at all.

The D.A. knew ahead of time that she had been with other people. They also knew about the other panties. But they weren?t there to win a trial, they were just there to get it to trial, which they did. They are not looking for "beyond a reasonable doubt" (fyi this isn't a murder case).

Not sure what you're saying here. It doesn't matter what the prosecution's evidence ends up being, it has to be bombshell material at this point. Otherwise, the jury will hear expert testimony that consensual sex can lead to the vaginal tearing that the alleged victim suffered, and that because the alleged victim had consensual sex within 48 hours of the alleged incident, the vaginal tearing could have easily come from that sexual encounter and not Kobe. The prosecution's primary piece of physical evidence is just rendered worthless.

And for your information, rape trials have proceeded on less evidence. Sometimes people have hidden agendas, and in this case Hulbert (like any other inexperienced D.A.) could very well be pushing for publicity and recognition more than anything else regardless of evidence. Though, I certainly don't think that's likely.

Unfortunately, all the reasonable doubt the prosecution has presented so far may in fact free a rapist. We may never know if Kobe actually commited this horrendous crime. With his money and influence, he may get away with this crime. Let's hope he's convicted if he's guilty and aquitted if he's innocent.
 
Yeah, and? The point is that the defense has already seeded significant reasonable doubt when they claimed to have evidence of pubic hair and semen from another male in the alleged victim's panties. This was confirmed by Denver's own police force when they admitted that the alleged victim had told them she had consensual sex with another male within 48 hours of the alleged rape.

Yes they do have panties with her boyfriends (as she says) public hair in and his semen. The problem is they are not the panties she had on during the alleged attack; these are just the panties she wore the next day (which also had her own blood). She admits to having sex two days before she was raped by Kobe with said boyfriend. The panties/clothes she gave them from her attack had the evidence of Kobe. As stated, we've not seen enough evidence and just because the prosecution has placed reasonable doubt on 1 set of panties and that she was sexually active with her boyfriend, doesn't mean as much when it goes to full trial in front of a jury with a good bit of other evidence. It's hard to say at this point. I just wanted to be sure this was pointed out for people that are already screaming acquittal. It's far from that.


Not sure what you're saying here. It doesn't matter what the prosecution's evidence ends up being, it has to be bombshell material at this point. Otherwise, the jury will hear expert testimony that consensual sex can lead to the vaginal tearing that the alleged victim suffered, and that because the alleged victim had consensual sex within 48 hours of the alleged incident, the vaginal tearing could have easily come from that sexual encounter and not Kobe. The prosecution's primary piece of physical evidence is just rendered worthless.

I don't think it has to be bombshell. I think a good bit of solid evidence from various sources combined could cause a guilty verdict. Here's the biggest problem I see. I've been married for 6 years now. So I've had my fair share of sex. Now my wife has never bled outside of her vagina because of multiple tears in her vagina. Yes you can cause vaginal tears from dry sex without proper lube, but they found over 200 small tears insides the victims vagina. So this leads you to believe either

1. Her and her boyfriend must have been having very rough sex to cause so many tears that she was bleeding into her panties days later.
2. She was a virgin (there goes the slut theory)
3. Kobe raped her.

The fact that she was still bleeding when she did go to the hospital, at some point her vagina was "tore up" by some man. It couldn't have been pleasant sex to cause that many cuts and bleeding days later?

See here's here the "bombshell" evidence comes into play. You don't know what sort of witnesses they are calling. Her boyfriend could be a key witness in this trial. If he testifies they were sexually active and she was not bleeding after intercourse, the assumption moves towards Kobe caused it.

This of course is all hearsay and we don't know the true evidence, but now you see how the procession can easily debunk that theory with a witness that would be Key to her testimony (that the bleeding cause caused by the boyfriend).

Also it's odd that she was wearing panties that would have someone else?s stuff. She might have been so upset she wore old panties? This is a tough one but I?m sure they already have a reason why or know why.

It's hard to say who?s telling the truth and who isn't. People are trying to single out this girl for being a money grubbing slut, but they never sit there and think that 1. Kobe was cheating on his wife 2. He lied to the police when they first talked to him. Which in turn is another key piece of evidence; he has something like 3 conflicting stories that he's told authorities. So there?s more to this story.
 
Originally posted by: LordUnum
For anyone who's followed this case, being bound over for trial appeared to be nothing but a forgone conclusion prior to the prelim. Mere 'probable cause' needed to be established. Since both Kobe and the alleged victim both agreed to being in the same room at the same time and having some sort of sexual activities take place, that leaves an alleged rape certainly within the realm of possibilities. This decision came as no surprise to me or any legal analysts I bet.

Personally, I think the seeds of reasonable doubt have already been planted at this point. Provided no 'blockbuster' evidence is introduced by the prosecution (and the prosecution was certainly already reeling from this relatively inconsequential prelim), all I see is a bunch of hearsay and some questionable circumstantial evidence at best. Acquittal is now the 'forgone conclusion' IMO.

indeed
 
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