I wonder how much overlap there is between Sherdog forum and AT forum members there are.
Too bad Pankration wasn't allowed in the 2004 Olympic Games. That would be THE way to see the best fights, no promoter feuds to keep fighters apart.
Here's an amateur mma fight.... Kung-Fu (complete with kung fu outfit) VS a MMA fighter. Listen for the nice 'crack' at the end.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8692039060969768186&q
Too bad Pankration wasn't allowed in the 2004 Olympic Games. That would be THE way to see the best fights, no promoter feuds to keep fighters apart.
Here's an amateur mma fight.... Kung-Fu (complete with kung fu outfit) VS a MMA fighter. Listen for the nice 'crack' at the end.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8692039060969768186&q
Pretty good video.
I don't think that I would want to even bother watching a pro boxer and a good grappler fight in the octagon. The fight would only be good to watch if the boxer could stay on his feet for more than 30 seconds.Originally posted by: sourceninja
Originally posted by: DaShen
Make love not war. <putsin gun barrel>
it looks pretty cool. pacifist for the most part here though.
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Plus put any of these guys against a pro boxer and their dead.
All of those open punches would be taken advantage of by anyone trained in boxing. Most swing to largely. Some of those guys are scary fighters though.
I would love to see a good boxer in pride or the ufc. I think it really would upset the way a lot of these guys play their game. Of course the boxer would need to learn some different footwork and defenses for takedowns and a little ground work, but a solid boxer would be great to watch.
that last guy should get a whoppin for whalin on the lights out man while everyone tries to stop him
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The main thing a lot of people forget is its the fighter, not the style that wins the fight. Just because a guy is a boxer doesnt' mean he didn't grow up wrestling, or he didn't get his butt kicked daily i the hood. Sometimes the rules can hold you back. For example, there are a lot of things I could do in judo competitions to win, I know how to do them and do them well. But it is against the rules. So if you fight me thinking I know only judo, your going to be suprised. People always comment on how good my ground game is in judo, but thats because I also train bjj.
Guys with little or no training have done well in MMA fights. Technique is great, and it makes great fighters, but bigger, faster, stronger is still a major advantage no matter who you are. I serioulsy doubt any fighter, even a pro boxer would enter the UFC without training for the ruleset. The difference will be that he will be throwing good combos, and not chuck liddell wild right hand punches. Learn a few takedown defenses, and train a little grappling. Look at chuck liddell. Hes a good grappler, but he almost never goes to the ground unless he has no other choice. He just lays in the heavy hands. A boxer could do the same thing if he. And a pro boxer would be smart enough in this day and age (its not '93 anymore) to train for the ruleset. The fact is if you can slip a good jab, and work some combos you can end a fight very fast. Just stick near the cage and learn to use it to protect you from takedowns. Takedowns are the worst part of most UFC grappler's game. Unlike back in the 90's where the guys would drill a lot of nice takedowns, they figure they are going to end up there anyways and just do single/double legs. Most of the fighters I've seen in the UFC are really bad at takedowns, but most of them want to work the mat, so they just go down anyways (not that I blame them, i'm not a striker myself).
So dont count anyone out. Its not what you train, its how you train and who you train with. I'm personally hoping to make the jump from judo/bjj to MMA fights sometime this late summer.
Guys with little or no training have done well in MMA fights. Technique is great, and it makes great fighters, but bigger, faster, stronger is still a major advantage no matter who you are. I serioulsy doubt any fighter, even a pro boxer would enter the UFC without training for the ruleset. The difference will be that he will be throwing good combos, and not chuck liddell wild right hand punches. Learn a few takedown defenses, and train a little grappling. Look at chuck liddell. Hes a good grappler, but he almost never goes to the ground unless he has no other choice. He just lays in the heavy hands. A boxer could do the same thing if he. And a pro boxer would be smart enough in this day and age (its not '93 anymore) to train for the ruleset. The fact is if you can slip a good jab, and work some combos you can end a fight very fast. Just stick near the cage and learn to use it to protect you from takedowns. Takedowns are the worst part of most UFC grappler's game. Unlike back in the 90's where the guys would drill a lot of nice takedowns, they figure they are going to end up there anyways and just do single/double legs. Most of the fighters I've seen in the UFC are really bad at takedowns, but most of them want to work the mat, so they just go down anyways (not that I blame them, i'm not a striker myself).
So dont count anyone out. Its not what you train, its how you train and who you train with. I'm personally hoping to make the jump from judo/bjj to MMA fights sometime this late summer.
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