Knives are too sharp and filing them down is solution to soaring violent crime, judge says

[UglyCasanova]

I’d imagine a near zero chance of this ever passing. I don’t live there though and know the political climate so who knows. Seems nuts though to me. I don’t have a gun nor care about them, but I do own some nice kitchen knives. If anybody tried to touch my Shun Premier Damascus steel chefs knife it’s have to be over my dead body...

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...ng-solution-soaring-violent-crime-judge-says/

A judge has proposed a nationwide programme to file down the points of kitchen knives as a solution to the country’s soaring knife crime epidemic.

Last week in his valedictory address, retiring Luton Crown Court Judge Nic Madge spoke of his concern that carrying a knife had become routine in some circles and called on the Government to ban the sale of large pointed kitchen knives.

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He said laws designed to reduce the availability of weapons to young would-be offenders had had “almost no effect”, since the vast majority had merely taken knives from a cutlery drawer.

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He asked: “But why we do need eight-inch or ten-inch kitchen knives with points?

“Butchers and fishmongers do, but how often, if at all, does a domestic chef use the point of an eight-inch or ten-inch knife? Rarely, if at all."

"Acknowledging that any blade could cause injury, the judge pointed out “slash wounds are rarely fatal.”

So, he said: “I would urge all those with any role in relation to knives - manufacturers, shops, the police, local authorities, the government - to consider preventing the sale of long pointed knives, except in rare, defined, circumstances, and replacing such knives with rounded ends.

"It might even be that the police could organise a programme whereby the owners of kitchen knives, which have been properly and lawfully bought for culinary purposes, could be taken somewhere to be modified, with the points being ground down into rounded ends," he said.

 

[Moonbeam]

News flash. Dullest blade in the Judicial drawer receives inspiration.

 

[UglyCasanova]

 

[Perknose]

The judge thinks he's on the cutting edge of jurisprudence. Alas, his proposal is literally pointless.

 

[Sunburn74]

It's a weird idea and a bit non-sensical but it raises the question of why knifes need a sharp point for piercing? In the modern age most knives could be a rectangle with a sharp edge right?

 

[UglyCasanova]

It's a weird idea and a bit non-sensical but it raises the question of why knifes need a sharp point for piercing? In the modern age most knives could be a rectangle with a sharp edge right?

I use mine in a rocking motion when cutting certain things like herbs. Rolling it on the curve. And useful with a utility/pairing knife to get into small places.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

It's a weird idea and a bit non-sensical but it raises the question of why knifes need a sharp point for piercing? In the modern age most knives could be a rectangle with a sharp edge right?

Try paring and coring with no point. Not happening.

In my considered opinion after all is weighed carefully I suggest these people fuck off.

 

[Lanyap]

Once they get the pointy knives filed down they need to work on sharp pencils next. Then they can work on bats.

Violent people are always going to find a weapon. The UK needs to figure out what's causing the violence and work on a solution for that.

 

[realibrad]

I'm in London right now, and the only stabbing over done is to the girl in my bed.

At best I would think they could ban carrying knives. Knife shapes are not arbitrary.

It's interesting here. I see almost no officers walking around. All seem to be in cars. It feels like there are a lot less police around than what I'm used to.

 

[UglyCasanova]

It feels like there are a lot less police around than what I'm used to.

Most of the police you are used to are out there generating revenue not fighting crime. I’d guess in London the cops looking at the populace as dollar signs isn’t as big of an issue.

 

[MrSquished]

If they had guns they'd be so much more fucked

 

[Jaskalas]

My family has a set of really old, really dull knives that are useless on a tough piece of meat. I could slash at myself and do no harm. But being dull won't change a thing with regards to the fatality of stabbing / thrusting with it. It's still a deadly weapon if used as such.

 

[realibrad]

Most of the police you are used to are out there generating revenue not fighting crime. I’d guess in London the cops looking at the populace as dollar signs isn’t as big of an issue.

The police here also do not look like they are ready for military action either.

There are a lot of neat things here. Some good and some bad. I do feel safe in must areas.

Also, pudding is what that call dessert. I thought they just really loved pudding. Turned my world upside down when I think about "bring me some figgy pudding". Thought it was pudding made from figs.

 

[ImpulsE69]

Knife killings are on the rise? Time to ban knives! Think of the kids! Go after Pier 1 Imports for allowing pointy knives to thrive!

Shit...but what about forks???? I mean...that can put 3 or 4 holes in someone at THE SAME TIME!

smh..this world is so over.

 

[KB]

If they ban knives or force you to dull them, then it will be ice picks and screw drivers.

Sometimes I wonder if this is all just a plan by the Russians to disarm us so much, that they come in and take over our cities with a single board and nail.

 

[OutHouse]

In the modern age most knives could be a rectangle with a sharp edge right?

Modern age? I'm intrigued with this statement. Please explain

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

 

[realibrad]

That looks great for filleting fish.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Oh, I have a couple of those and are the sharpest kitchen knives I have, carbon steel. Heaven help anyone who were to attack me while having it in my hand.

 

[Atreus21]

"Judge finds that people are too violent, suggests law to stop people from being violent."

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

That looks great for filleting fish.

It's a vegetable slicer but yet it can filet and I will use it for anything I wish to slice. There are videos with Martin Yan slicing a cucumber that illustrates what can be done. It's quite thin and being carbon steel I use Renaissance Wax to protect it from corrosion. I'm finicky about edges and it's only one level removed in sharpness from a professionally honed straight razor, which the judge seems to not understand isn't pointed either.

The point being, if you excuse the pun, knives have evolved over millenia into shapes that fulfill one function and that is to cut into things. I can't use that shape knife for many things because it would be a square peg for a round hole.

If we're talking killing, you will find weapons through the ages that are edged weapons but not designed to thrust.

The judge is displaying ignorance to play to the fearful.

 

[momeNt]

Eventually these forward thinkers are going to come to the conclusion that it is largely men causing violent crime. Wide sweeping hormone management, similar to how we are able to vaccinate children, is probably in the future to reduce criminality in males.