KNIGHT VS DRAGON

Hyperblaze

Lifer
May 31, 2001
10,027
1
81
KNIGHT VS. DRAGON

A dragon and knight live on an island. This island has seven poisoned wells, numbered 1 to 7. If you drink from a well, you can only save yourself by drinking from a higher numbered well. Well 7 is located at the top of a high mountain, so only the dragon can reach it.

One day they decide that the island isn't big enough for the two of them, and they have a duel. Each of them brings a glass of water to the duel, they exchange glasses, and drink. After the duel, the knight lives and the dragon dies.

Why did the knight live? Why did the dragon die?

Note: From a Trilogy interview.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'm not sure where Trilogy is, but that has got to be one of the easiest questions I've ever encountered.
 

jagec

Lifer
Apr 30, 2004
24,442
6
81
The knight spent the last seven years building up an immunity to iocaine!

Or maybe he switched the glasses when the dragon wasn't looking.
 

Lorax

Golden Member
Apr 14, 2000
1,658
0
0
knight built up an immunity to the poison. inconceivable!

edit: beat to it :(
 

amoeba

Diamond Member
Aug 7, 2003
3,162
1
0
Trilogy is a software company that spun off from IBM.

does the order in which you drink the antidote matter?

Also, lets say I drink from well 1, and then drink from well 2 to cure myself, will I now have to drink from well 3 to cure the poisonous effects of well2 or am I fine?

 

Hyperblaze

Lifer
May 31, 2001
10,027
1
81
Originally posted by: jagec
The knight spent the last seven years building up an immunity to iocaine!

Or maybe he switched the glasses when the dragon wasn't looking.

Actually..no....
what he did was probably drink from well 1-6 and the dragon had water from well 7

knight brough a drink from well 1.

knight drinks from well 7 and is cured. dragon drinks from well 1 and dies.

 

Phoenix86

Lifer
May 21, 2003
14,644
10
81
The knight didn't give the dragon poisioned water, then the dragon thinking he got well #1-6's poisioned water, drank from well #7 to cure himself and died from it's poision.

I'm not sure how the knight lives.... Since drinking any well water=death as there is no cure to #7's water. If the dragon gave him water form well 1-5 he could cure himself with water from #6. However, how does he cure himself from that poision? He can't reach #7, and even if he could, there's no cure to #7s water. Even then, the dragon should give him #7s well water.
 

Sex Smurf

Golden Member
Oct 13, 2004
1,384
2
0
Obvious answer: The knight kicked ass in the duel and the dragon died from its injuries
 

jagec

Lifer
Apr 30, 2004
24,442
6
81
Originally posted by: Phoenix86
The knight didn't give the dragon poisioned water, then the dragon thinking he got well #1-6's poisioned water, drank from well #7 to cure himself and died from it's poision.

I'm not sure how the knight lives.... Since drinking any well water=death as there is no cure to #7's water. If the dragon gave him water form well 1-5 he could cure himself with water from #6. However, how does he cure himself from that poision? He can't reach #7, and even if he could, there's no cure to #7s water. Even then, the dragon should give him #7s well water.

The knight drinks from well #6, and gives the dragon normal (non-poisoned) water.

The dragon gives the knight well #7 water.

So, what the dragon gives the knight cures him, and the dragon proceeds to drink from well #7 (thinking it will cure what the knight gave him), and gets poisoned.
 

mchammer187

Diamond Member
Nov 26, 2000
9,114
0
76
wouldn't drinking from 7 save you from drinking 1-6 after all 7 is higher than 1-6

makes no sense to me

unless 7 is not poisoned

7 only cures 6

6 only cures 5

5 only cures 4 etc.

but 7 is poisoned as well
and even so take a look at this example

for instance drinking 1 will poison you

drinking 2 iwll cure you from one but it will give you poison 2


drink 3 you are now cured of 2 but poisoned of 3

so you drink 4 to cure 3

etc. etc.

now you drink 7 which you are cured of 6 but still poisoned from 7 which there is no cure for?
 

amoeba

Diamond Member
Aug 7, 2003
3,162
1
0
OP must specify whether a higher number drink will not only cure a lower number poison but also infect you with higher number poison or whether no effects occur after drinking a lower number poison followed by higher number poison.
 

Kev

Lifer
Dec 17, 2001
16,367
4
81
Originally posted by: amoeba
OP must specify whether a higher number drink will not only cure a lower number poison but also infect you with higher number poison or whether no effects occur after drinking a lower number poison followed by higher number poison.

has to be the latter or else the knight is SOL
 

HonkeyDonk

Diamond Member
Oct 14, 2001
4,020
0
0
Originally posted by: Kev
Originally posted by: amoeba
OP must specify whether a higher number drink will not only cure a lower number poison but also infect you with higher number poison or whether no effects occur after drinking a lower number poison followed by higher number poison.

has to be the latter or else the knight is SOL

agreed.

Makes sense that way if knight drinks any well 1-6 prior to duel. But then again, you would have to assume that the Dragon is gonna bring the level 7 water to the duel.
 

amoeba

Diamond Member
Aug 7, 2003
3,162
1
0
Originally posted by: HonkeyDonk
Originally posted by: Kev
Originally posted by: amoeba
OP must specify whether a higher number drink will not only cure a lower number poison but also infect you with higher number poison or whether no effects occur after drinking a lower number poison followed by higher number poison.

has to be the latter or else the knight is SOL

agreed.

Makes sense that way if knight drinks any well 1-6 prior to duel. But then again, you would have to assume that the Dragon is gonna bring the level 7 water to the duel.



In order to maximize his chances, Knight should drink from #1 prior to the duel as he has to only count on the dragon not also bringing water from #1.

I assume the Knight gives the dragon a plain glass of water like somebody else said but given it is an island, I wasn't sure if other water was available.

 

Phoenix86

Lifer
May 21, 2003
14,644
10
81
Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: Phoenix86
The knight didn't give the dragon poisioned water, then the dragon thinking he got well #1-6's poisioned water, drank from well #7 to cure himself and died from it's poision.

I'm not sure how the knight lives.... Since drinking any well water=death as there is no cure to #7's water. If the dragon gave him water form well 1-5 he could cure himself with water from #6. However, how does he cure himself from that poision? He can't reach #7, and even if he could, there's no cure to #7s water. Even then, the dragon should give him #7s well water.

The knight drinks from well #6, and gives the dragon normal (non-poisoned) water.

The dragon gives the knight well #7 water.

So, what the dragon gives the knight cures him, and the dragon proceeds to drink from well #7 (thinking it will cure what the knight gave him), and gets poisoned.

But 7 is poisioned as well, the dragon gives him the cure to #6, but also poisions him with the water from #7. I think there's a missing step to the riddle. I guess your can't get cured and poisioned in the same step. If 7 cures 6, does it also poision you again?

If so, I don't see a solution. If that's not the case, there are some solutions with the knight being poisioned at the onset, and then 7 cures him, assuming the dragon give him 7. Even then I see another soltion if the dragon gives random glasses.

Amoeba,

"One day they decide that the island isn't big enough for the two of them"

Since they have lived there for a while, I think it's safe to assume they'd have to have clean water somewhere. Heck, it's an island, the knight could get sea water...
 

91TTZ

Lifer
Jan 31, 2005
14,374
1
0
The way you told it makes no sense.

All the dragon would have to do is get some water from well #6 or 7 to ensure that the knight dies. (assuming that the knight doesn't cheat and somehow find plain water or drink from well #1 ahead of time.) The knight could give the dragon whatever water he wants, and the dragon only has to fly up to well #7 to be cured.

You need to specify if there is unpoisoned water anywhere on the island, or if they're allowed to drink before their duel.
 

HonkeyDonk

Diamond Member
Oct 14, 2001
4,020
0
0
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
The way you told it makes no sense.

All the dragon would have to do is get some water from well #6 or 7 to ensure that the knight dies. (assuming that the knight doesn't cheat and somehow find plain water or drink from well #1 ahead of time.) The knight could give the dragon whatever water he wants, and the dragon only has to fly up to well #7 to be cured.

You need to specify if there is unpoisoned water anywhere on the island, or if they're allowed to drink before their duel.

yeah, missing some important info.

But I think we can all agree that we all know how the Knight lived...he just drank #1 water before the duel. (then again, that's still kind of missing info, so we have to assume it).

But if we can assume that, we can assume there's clean water too on the island heh.
 

91TTZ

Lifer
Jan 31, 2005
14,374
1
0
I think the answer that the OP is looking for is this:

1. The knight drinks from well #1 beforehand and brings a glass of pure water to the duel

2. The dragon brings water from well #7 to the duel

3. The knight drinks the dragons's cup of #7 and is cured. The dragon drinks the knight's cup of fresh water, then flies up to well #7 to "cure" himself, which really poisons him.

This would give you the answer that you want, but it's a bit lame and introduces 2 things which weren't in the rules.