Knee pain -- I think it's runner's knee

[LittleNemoNES]

Basically I've had really bad pain in both my knees for about 4 days that doesn't seem to be alleviated by time and stretching alone. I've suspended all running, btw.

Like I just said, I have been trying to do some stretching and it don't help much... Anyone have any experience for self treatment?

I had been running and walking for about 2 hrs daily which I figure isn't suck a huge deal.

I drink a lot of water daily and eat right: lots of protein (soy) and veggies.

I figure it's some kind of muscle strength imbalance.

Any help is appreciated.

 

[Xyo II]

Soy is bad for you. Cut that out. Tastes nasty too

 

[LittleNemoNES]

Originally posted by: Xyo II
Soy is bad for you. Cut that out. Tastes nasty too

veggie burgers are bad for me?

 

[Xyo II]

Originally posted by: gersson

Originally posted by: Xyo II
Soy is bad for you. Cut that out. Tastes nasty too

veggie burgers are bad for me?

Soy is good for those that can't digest dairy products and for those silly vegetarians. For everyone else, blech.

 

[sash1]

I had tendinitis back in High School.

The only advice I'm going to give you is: DO NOT RUN THROUGH IT

I decided that I could run through the pain and decided to run anyway. It didn't affect my times, I was still one of the best in the state, but I don't even think I could describe the kind of pain I was in. A couple hours after every practice and track meet when my muscles cooled down, I was in excrutiating pain that I can't even describe.

The team was more important than my damned knees, though. That's how much I loved track.

 

[LittleNemoNES]

Originally posted by: Xyo II

Originally posted by: gersson

Originally posted by: Xyo II
Soy is bad for you. Cut that out. Tastes nasty too

veggie burgers are bad for me?

Soy is good for those that can't digest dairy products and for those silly vegetarians. For everyone else, blech.

grrr, you're not helping much

 

[LittleNemoNES]

Originally posted by: sash1
I had tendinitis back in High School.

The only advice I'm going to give you is: DO NOT RUN THROUGH IT

I decided that I could run through the pain and decided to run anyway. It didn't affect my times, I was still one of the best in the state, but I don't even think I could describe the kind of pain I was in. A couple hours after every practice and track meet when my muscles cooled down, I was in excrutiating pain that I can't even describe.

The team was more important than my damned knees, though. That's how much I loved track.

Didn't you suffer irreversible harm by doing that? :Q

 

[Gibsons]

Originally posted by: sash1
DO NOT RUN THROUGH IT

That's a good start.

Also, put ice on them. Some people use bags of frozen peas, but get them cold somehow. Take some anti-inflams like ibuprofen or alleve, etc.

 

[LittleNemoNES]

Originally posted by: Gibsons

Originally posted by: sash1
DO NOT RUN THROUGH IT

That's a good start.

Also, put ice on them. Some people use bags of frozen peas, but get them cold somehow. Take some anti-inflams like ibuprofen or alleve, etc.

sounds like a plan. I'll defrost my lunch for tomm and help my knee @ the same time
I'll take some ibuprofen like you suggested and see if it helps, thanks.

 

[sash1]

Originally posted by: gersson

Originally posted by: sash1
I had tendinitis back in High School.

The only advice I'm going to give you is: DO NOT RUN THROUGH IT

I decided that I could run through the pain and decided to run anyway. It didn't affect my times, I was still one of the best in the state, but I don't even think I could describe the kind of pain I was in. A couple hours after every practice and track meet when my muscles cooled down, I was in excrutiating pain that I can't even describe.

The team was more important than my damned knees, though. That's how much I loved track.

Didn't you suffer irreversible harm by doing that? :Q

Maybe? I guess we'll see when I get older. But, like I said, winning States that year was more important than my damned knees.

They seem fine now. For a while couldn't lift with my knees (legs). I.E. I couldn't do squats or leg press with any sort of weight. Now I can do squats/leg press, everything with lots of weight and no pain in my knees.

Yeah, and like Gibsons said, ice and ibuprofen. I took a lot of Motrin

 

[LittleNemoNES]

Originally posted by: sash1

Originally posted by: gersson

Originally posted by: sash1
I had tendinitis back in High School.

The only advice I'm going to give you is: DO NOT RUN THROUGH IT

I decided that I could run through the pain and decided to run anyway. It didn't affect my times, I was still one of the best in the state, but I don't even think I could describe the kind of pain I was in. A couple hours after every practice and track meet when my muscles cooled down, I was in excrutiating pain that I can't even describe.

The team was more important than my damned knees, though. That's how much I loved track.

Didn't you suffer irreversible harm by doing that? :Q

Maybe? I guess we'll see when I get older. But, like I said, winning States that year was more important than my damned knees.

They seem fine now. For a while couldn't lift with my knees (legs). I.E. I couldn't do squats or leg press with any sort of weight. Now I can do squats/leg press, everything with lots of weight and no pain in my knees.

Yeah, and like Gibsons said, ice and ibuprofen. I took a lot of Motrin

thanks for your input. Made me optimistic.
Was your recovery quick?

Good night!

 

[sash1]

Originally posted by: gersson

Originally posted by: sash1

Originally posted by: gersson

Originally posted by: sash1
I had tendinitis back in High School.

The only advice I'm going to give you is: DO NOT RUN THROUGH IT

I decided that I could run through the pain and decided to run anyway. It didn't affect my times, I was still one of the best in the state, but I don't even think I could describe the kind of pain I was in. A couple hours after every practice and track meet when my muscles cooled down, I was in excrutiating pain that I can't even describe.

The team was more important than my damned knees, though. That's how much I loved track.

Didn't you suffer irreversible harm by doing that? :Q

Maybe? I guess we'll see when I get older. But, like I said, winning States that year was more important than my damned knees.

They seem fine now. For a while couldn't lift with my knees (legs). I.E. I couldn't do squats or leg press with any sort of weight. Now I can do squats/leg press, everything with lots of weight and no pain in my knees.

Yeah, and like Gibsons said, ice and ibuprofen. I took a lot of Motrin

thanks for your input. Made me optimistic.
Was your recovery quick?

Good night!

My knees were fine by the outdoor season. Took a couple weeks after New Englands, but I noticed they were a lot better. Took about a month for them to be fine and I could run without any pain.

 

[newmachineoverlord]

Joints don't get much in the way of blood supply, so they always take a lot longer to heal than muscles. Keep up the walking, but don't run again until the joints are better. Don't expect joints to heal much in less than two weeks, and if it takes a month or two, just be glad the damage wasn't permanent.

Ice, ibuprofen, and no more high impact activities until it stops hurting. Yes, soy is good for you.

 

[0roo0roo]

cycling ftw! lower impact... and yea don't run through it. i had some pain in mine a while back..figured it was from running and so i stopped. it went away after a week

 

[LittleNemoNES]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
cycling ftw! lower impact... and yea don't run through it. i had some pain in mine a while back..figured it was from running and so i stopped. it went away after a week

that's a great idea. I have noticed a lot of people say that cycling is better for the reasons already mentioned (low impact, etc). Can't have this happening again

 

[j00fek]

go to the doctor not ATOT

 

[Gibsons]

Originally posted by: gersson

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
cycling ftw! lower impact... and yea don't run through it. i had some pain in mine a while back..figured it was from running and so i stopped. it went away after a week

that's a great idea. I have noticed a lot of people say that cycling is better for the reasons already mentioned (low impact, etc). Can't have this happening again

I've had this sort of tendonitis in the knees, shins and achilles. Once the tendons/fascia heal up, they're probably stronger than before and less likely to get inflamed again. Just be sure it's really completely healed before you hit the road again.

If you want to continue working the running muscles, you can approximate it in a pool. It's not as fun though.

Also, be sure you've got enough vitamin C in your diet.

 

[gsellis]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
cycling ftw! lower impact... and yea don't run through it. i had some pain in mine a while back..figured it was from running and so i stopped. it went away after a week

Ibex for the mailorder win

Road is good, but mountian is fun. And based on your profile, SORBA.

Do as j00fek says too. Make sure you did not do something that will be a problem as you start exercising again.

 

[LittleNemoNES]

Damn I don't feel a whole lot better... guess the ibuprofen is what dulled the pain... I will also ask my doctor on the next visit (~ 2 weeks)

 

[sash1]

Originally posted by: gersson
Damn I don't feel a whole lot better... guess the ibuprofen is what dulled the pain... I will also ask my doctor on the next visit (~ 2 weeks)

physical therapy is always good. i did PT for a while and that really helped my knees

 

[Gibsons]

Originally posted by: gersson
Damn I don't feel a whole lot better... guess the ibuprofen is what dulled the pain... I will also ask my doctor on the next visit (~ 2 weeks)

Inflammation like this can take a few weeks to heal.

 

[SociallyChallenged]

Like others have said, it could be potential tendonitis. If you've never done any running before, it may actually be Osgood-Schlatter. Although it typically happens in children (I had it when I was about 12), it can happen due to overactivity and stress on the knee joint. Link. It might not be, but if your pain feels like that then you might wanna have it looked out. Also, if could depend on what you're running on. If you're running on cement / asphalt, then your knees can take a beating. If you're running on that junk, try to either find a nice rubber track or a nice grassy park. It'll help, and it will strengthen other muscles that stabilize your legs (if you run on the grass). PM me if you have any questions. GL man.

 

[Pollock]

If by "rookie runner" you mean only those few days, then I would say to just suck it up - the first couple weeks always hurt when starting back up again. The chances of you having a legitimate injury from running what is probably low mileage...are slim.

If it's really bad, you can ice it, but to me, the best thing is just to tough it out.

 

[imported_peachee]

For inflamed joints/ligments/tendons, it will take several weeks to months to go away, whether you run on not. But long runs on consecutive days will make it worse and cause permanent damage (arthritis). Yet, if you do no exercise, your joints will get very little blood circulation and will take longer to completely heal. Also, to heal, you need to get enough sleep each night (7-8 hours).

Solution: Take some days off when it hurts a lot. Run every other day. Keep the mileage low and slow. Buy a tight neoprene support and use it while you run (take it off when you don't). Take glucosamine-chondrintin-msm pills twice a day. Also, make sure your shoes are soft to cushion the impact. Don't use the heat pad, use ice.

 

[SWScorch]

Where is the pain? If it's below the kneecap, it could be runner's knee or tendonitis. If it's on the outside of the knee, there's a good chance it's ITBS (Ilio-Tibial Band Syndrome). Either way, as everyone has said, don't run through it, ice it 4-5 times a day, 10-20 minutes at a time, take ibuprofen and seea doctor. Yadda yadda Hope you recovery quick!