Kiss Your Gas . . .
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The Oil Embargo is now in effect.
All on purpose to say the War was not for Oil and to deviert attention from the failings of the Bush Regime.
Don't let Dave read that article. His head might explode.
Red, I'd say too many unknowns to give a specific number but the ship accident in Mississippi will slow down the economic recovery by causing higher gas and diesel prices. I'm just waiting to see how someone blames Pres. Bush for that accident.
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He read it before I finished typing my message and apparently his head has exploded.
Red, I'd say too many unknowns to give a specific number but the ship accident in Mississippi will slow down the economic recovery by causing higher gas and diesel prices. I'm just waiting to see how someone blames Pres. Bush for that accident.
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He read it before I finished typing my message and apparently his head has exploded.
Actually I'm salivating and can't wait to see all the owners of giant SUV's crying like the little Babies they are, thinking they are such "Big" hotshots with their "Big Powerful 8 Mile Per Gallon Guzzlers", serves every one of them right.
Hehehehehe <Evil Grin>
Damn. I remember running out of gas for several days in the Phoenix area last August. We saw at least one station shoot to $4.27/gallon for regular gas, but most others just simply ran out. It was kinda errie passing like 12 stations on my way to work, and all of the stations being blocked off.
I also learned that being out @ 3am for gas won't help. I sat in line for 45 minutes to get gas at $2.20/gallon.
Oh, the cheapest gas I saw in the way home today was $1.90/gallon.
I also learned that being out @ 3am for gas won't help. I sat in line for 45 minutes to get gas at $2.20/gallon.
Oh, the cheapest gas I saw in the way home today was $1.90/gallon.
- Jul 25, 2002
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You alluded to the fact that we went into Iraq because of the oil. WTF? Are you taking that bck now, or what? :disgust:
Historically, Gasoline Prices Are Not Expensive
Historically, Gasoline Prices Are Not Expensive
- The Energy Information Administration reports gasoline prices in both nominal and real terms. The real prices are adjusted for the effects of inflation by applying the implicit GDP price deflators to compare prices in constant 1996 dollars. As the chart shows, the current "record high" price is quite moderate by historical standards. We had higher retail gasoline prices as recently as 1985, and significantly higher prices from 1979 to the mid 1980s.
- Jul 25, 2002
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Onery -
Big time comprehension problem there huh ?
I specifically stated there was NO OIL IN HATI, do you even knoe the history of our 'Political' involvement there ?
Where did I state taht we went into Iraq for oil ? Iraq is a different country all the way on the other side of the world.
And, yes, they do have oir. Again - Hati does not.
We have time and time again controlled who is our 'Designated Dictator' in Hati.
A Catholic Priest, supported 3 times by our actions to be the 'President' - once re-instated,
under Clinton in 1994, by military action. What's changed ? He's still our 'Designated Dictator'.
History
Big time comprehension problem there huh ?
I specifically stated there was NO OIL IN HATI, do you even knoe the history of our 'Political' involvement there ?
Where did I state taht we went into Iraq for oil ? Iraq is a different country all the way on the other side of the world.
And, yes, they do have oir. Again - Hati does not.
We have time and time again controlled who is our 'Designated Dictator' in Hati.
A Catholic Priest, supported 3 times by our actions to be the 'President' - once re-instated,
under Clinton in 1994, by military action. What's changed ? He's still our 'Designated Dictator'.
History
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- Jun 30, 2001
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OK smartass, I'll now leave it up to you to explain WTF oil has to do with Iraq OR Hati. You brought it up, numbnuts!
- Jul 25, 2002
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Simple -
Bush will not involve our country in Hati, only 750 miles from our shore,
and Hati is an immediate threat to us with their people fleeing to escape.
Instead of assisting Hati and our 'Designated Dicator', as the plea went out to the
'International Community' for assistance to this countries people, he simple says
stay away or we'll turn you back by force. We set him up by force before.
With all these U.S. Companies rushing to 'Off-Shore' their businesses for TAX DEFERMENT,
if there was an interest in Hati they could have done their 'Off-Shoring there, if so desired.
Hati shares an islandf with the Dominican Republic - the maker of baseballs for the Major Leagues.
If the country of Hati is nlot stabilized, they may over-run them and jepardize our upcoming season.
What will Stienbrenner do with A-Rod, if there is an international threat to the Yankees chance of
getting another World Series Pennant ?
Back to the subject - one dictator, or another, Cheney's 'Energy Council' seems to be the driver
in which dictator gets the attention, help, or the bombs - Oil money and Corporate interests.
Do you get it ?
You seem to be unable to converse without reverting to obsenities.
Bush will not involve our country in Hati, only 750 miles from our shore,
and Hati is an immediate threat to us with their people fleeing to escape.
Instead of assisting Hati and our 'Designated Dicator', as the plea went out to the
'International Community' for assistance to this countries people, he simple says
stay away or we'll turn you back by force. We set him up by force before.
With all these U.S. Companies rushing to 'Off-Shore' their businesses for TAX DEFERMENT,
if there was an interest in Hati they could have done their 'Off-Shoring there, if so desired.
Hati shares an islandf with the Dominican Republic - the maker of baseballs for the Major Leagues.
If the country of Hati is nlot stabilized, they may over-run them and jepardize our upcoming season.
What will Stienbrenner do with A-Rod, if there is an international threat to the Yankees chance of
getting another World Series Pennant ?
Back to the subject - one dictator, or another, Cheney's 'Energy Council' seems to be the driver
in which dictator gets the attention, help, or the bombs - Oil money and Corporate interests.
Do you get it ?
You seem to be unable to converse without reverting to obsenities.
"Oil money and Corporate interests."
If we're getting "oil money" from Iraq, we should now be flooded in gasoline!
If we're getting "oil money" from Iraq, we should now be flooded in gasoline!
- Jul 25, 2002
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I posted this in this thread earlier, maybe you should read it.
Here I'll paste it too:
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------05-08-02 The US could draw up to 4 mm bpd of oil, equivalent of more than a third of its daily oil imports, from its Strategic Petroleum Reserve in the event of a Middle East oil crisis, Spencer Abraham, the US energy secretary, said. But he said the decision to fill the reserve from its present level of 580 mm barrels to its maximum capacity of 700 mm barrels had been taken to increase the country's energy security generally, and was not a contingency plan specifically related to any US attack on Iraq.
Speaking at London's International Petroleum Exchange, Mr Abraham said, in the Bush administration's view, SPR oil should be used to counter supply disruptions affecting national security rather than, as President Bill Clinton did, just to smooth price increases.
But he said the Bush administration was only filling the SPR "gradually" with royalty oil paid to the US government for Gulf of Mexico licences and it would take until 2005 for the maximum level to be reached. Nevertheless, Washington announced recently it was increasing the royalty oil being poured into the SPR's Louisiana salt domes from 60,000 to 100,000 bpd.
Mr Abraham said 4 mm bpd was the technical limit for withdrawals from the SPR. The US imports around 9 mm bpd, of which the share from Iraq has sometimes been as high as 700,000 bpd. The energy secretary encouraged other countries to increase their oil stocks "just as a matter of overall energy security".
The Bush administration has long urged its SPR model on other countries, and its fellow European and Asian members of the International Energy Agency are already required to hold oil stocks equivalent to 90 days worth of consumption. Mr Abraham said he was asked by the Russian government for advice on setting up a Russian stockpile.
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Now the way that I read this is that on or about May 8th of 2002 our Bush Administration Energy man - Mr. Abrahan,
is saying that that the U.S. was importing 9 million Barrels of Oil per Day, and of which we were getting oil from Iraq -
which was sometimes as high as 700,000 Barrels per Day.
This was in a timeframe before the war, when the Embargo was in effect, and there was a UN 'Food for Oil Program.
We obtained Iraqi Oil outside of the UN program back then didn't we ?
After bombing the hell out of Iraq and disrupting their supply flow we don't get their oil sent here, it now goes to Asia.
So now we are filling up our Strategic Reserves at higher prices, with the U.S. taxpayer eating about $ 1 million dollars
in cost per day to do so, which further drives up the price of the oil and fuel to the end consumer. We are subsidizing
our own Government program to increase the price of gas to ourselves, for those companies that do business with the
select few business pardners that are interwoven with the Bush Administration's internal working personell.
Here I'll paste it too:
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------05-08-02 The US could draw up to 4 mm bpd of oil, equivalent of more than a third of its daily oil imports, from its Strategic Petroleum Reserve in the event of a Middle East oil crisis, Spencer Abraham, the US energy secretary, said. But he said the decision to fill the reserve from its present level of 580 mm barrels to its maximum capacity of 700 mm barrels had been taken to increase the country's energy security generally, and was not a contingency plan specifically related to any US attack on Iraq.
Speaking at London's International Petroleum Exchange, Mr Abraham said, in the Bush administration's view, SPR oil should be used to counter supply disruptions affecting national security rather than, as President Bill Clinton did, just to smooth price increases.
But he said the Bush administration was only filling the SPR "gradually" with royalty oil paid to the US government for Gulf of Mexico licences and it would take until 2005 for the maximum level to be reached. Nevertheless, Washington announced recently it was increasing the royalty oil being poured into the SPR's Louisiana salt domes from 60,000 to 100,000 bpd.
Mr Abraham said 4 mm bpd was the technical limit for withdrawals from the SPR. The US imports around 9 mm bpd, of which the share from Iraq has sometimes been as high as 700,000 bpd. The energy secretary encouraged other countries to increase their oil stocks "just as a matter of overall energy security".
The Bush administration has long urged its SPR model on other countries, and its fellow European and Asian members of the International Energy Agency are already required to hold oil stocks equivalent to 90 days worth of consumption. Mr Abraham said he was asked by the Russian government for advice on setting up a Russian stockpile.
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Now the way that I read this is that on or about May 8th of 2002 our Bush Administration Energy man - Mr. Abrahan,
is saying that that the U.S. was importing 9 million Barrels of Oil per Day, and of which we were getting oil from Iraq -
which was sometimes as high as 700,000 Barrels per Day.
This was in a timeframe before the war, when the Embargo was in effect, and there was a UN 'Food for Oil Program.
We obtained Iraqi Oil outside of the UN program back then didn't we ?
After bombing the hell out of Iraq and disrupting their supply flow we don't get their oil sent here, it now goes to Asia.
So now we are filling up our Strategic Reserves at higher prices, with the U.S. taxpayer eating about $ 1 million dollars
in cost per day to do so, which further drives up the price of the oil and fuel to the end consumer. We are subsidizing
our own Government program to increase the price of gas to ourselves, for those companies that do business with the
select few business pardners that are interwoven with the Bush Administration's internal working personell.
This is just ridiculous. First you say that Bush was there for oil, now you say that he's not going to USE the oil that he "went there for in the first place." WTF? These conspiracy theories are mutually exclusive. You have to pick on and stick to it.
Or, give up on both of them and admit that you just hate Bush and really don't care if any of it is true.
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Hey DUMBO - This is not about OIL do you understand that.
It's not about seizing Iraq's OIL either !
It's about turning your back on a country that is entering a Civil War -
that is only 750 miles from our Eastern coastline with the closest
point of incursion being the state where Bush's Bubba is the Governor.
It's also about a country so damn poor that there is virtually no future
available to those unlucky enough to have to live there.
It's about how the U.S. involvement - over more that a hundred years, has made that
nation the cesspool of humanity that it is, with the corrupt past leaders that we put there,
and how we forcibly put this one back in the last time, but now ignore because it's not in vouge.
There is 'No Oil in Hati' - nor is there any other precious financial entity to exploit for profit.
Only another dictator that we put up, quite like our placing our 'Designated Dictator' in Iraq.
Oh by the way - back before the Iraq War, we did get more OIL from Iraq than we get now, even with the 'Embargo' in place.
They couldn't sell it to the world, but we kept taking it for ourselves - that luxury is gone.
It's not about seizing Iraq's OIL either !
It's about turning your back on a country that is entering a Civil War -
that is only 750 miles from our Eastern coastline with the closest
point of incursion being the state where Bush's Bubba is the Governor.
It's also about a country so damn poor that there is virtually no future
available to those unlucky enough to have to live there.
It's about how the U.S. involvement - over more that a hundred years, has made that
nation the cesspool of humanity that it is, with the corrupt past leaders that we put there,
and how we forcibly put this one back in the last time, but now ignore because it's not in vouge.
There is 'No Oil in Hati' - nor is there any other precious financial entity to exploit for profit.
Only another dictator that we put up, quite like our placing our 'Designated Dictator' in Iraq.
Oh by the way - back before the Iraq War, we did get more OIL from Iraq than we get now, even with the 'Embargo' in place.
They couldn't sell it to the world, but we kept taking it for ourselves - that luxury is gone.
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