Kiss cam pulled after complaints it condones sexual assualt

[Exterous]

The kiss cam did not operate during Saturday's game between the Orange and Central Michigan University following a letter to the editor published Friday on Syracuse.com questioning its appropriateness at a time when universities are focused on discouraging sexual assaults. During game delays couples kissing for the camera are displayed on the Jumbotron to entertain the crowd.

"The instances I witnessed at the game encourage and condone sexual assault and a sense of male entitlement, at best. And they are an actual instance of assault, at worst," Port wrote in his letter.

"No one has the right to forcefully touch someone be it a hug, a kiss or a violent rape. I adamantly insist that Syracuse University student government, the chancellor, the athletic director, etc. review what happened last weekend and seriously consider the ramifications of what they are encouraging,"

Granted I haven't seen the videos in question but this seems a bit much. At most maybe ensure the camera operators know to move on if either party shakes their head

http://www.syracuse.com/opinion/index.ssf/2015/09/take_the_poll_should_the_carrier_dome_keep_the_kiss_cam.html

 

[Ancalagon44]

If the kiss cam centred on two males, would both of them be guilty of sexual assault?

 

[PokerGuy]

More politically correct stupidity. The kiss cam doesn't force anyone to do anything. If someone kisses someone else without permission, it's no different if it's on kiss cam or not -- either way it's wrong. I've never in my entire life seen "sexual assault" take place on a kiss cam, only idiot SJWs would think so. The really offensive thing is that we continue to let these overly sensitive SJW PC types determine what is acceptable to do.

 

[Hugo Drax]

America is doomed.

 

[alien42]

If the kiss cam centred on two males, would both of them be guilty of sexual assault?

the kiss cam almost always ends up on two males who are either fans of or members of the opposing team.

if one shook his head no and the other had a bunch of people sitting around him force his face into the others, as apparently happened at Syracuse between a man and a woman, then yes.

 

[alien42]

The kiss cam doesn't force anyone to do anything. If someone kisses someone else without permission, it's no different if it's on kiss cam or not -- either way it's wrong. I've never in my entire life seen "sexual assault" take place on a kiss cam, only idiot SJWs would think so.

so is it wrong, or not?

"During the Sept. 12, game between the Orange and Wake Forest, letter writer Steve Port said he witnessed two incidences on the kiss cam in which women indicated they didn't want to be kissed. Yet, the men nearby kissed them anyway to cheers from the crowd."

 

[DrPizza]

I don't think I'd call it sexual assault. Nonetheless, it is assault.

 

[HumblePie]

LOL so now all kisses are considered sexual in nature now? Guess I can't kiss my 1 year old son anymore because it's sexual assault!

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Administrators, fearing allegations of sexual assault stemming from the kiss cam, have agreed to replace it with the grope cam.

 

[BoberFett]

Administrators, fearing allegations of sexual assault stemming from the kiss cam, have agreed to replace it with the grope cam.

...and place the camera in the locker room...

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

It's cute when it grabs two people who want to PDA each other and really f*cking awkward when it grabs two people who don't. Good riddance.

 

[MajinCry]

It's cute when it grabs two people who want to PDA each other and really f*cking awkward when it grabs two people who don't. Good riddance.

Quoted for truth, milord.

 

[Zorba]

so is it wrong, or not?

"During the Sept. 12, game between the Orange and Wake Forest, letter writer Steve Port said he witnessed two incidences on the kiss cam in which women indicated they didn't want to be kissed. Yet, the men nearby kissed them anyway to cheers from the crowd."

What I assume was a small peck, I would not consider it "sexual assault" yeah, probably not the best thing to do, but I doubt anybody but a SJW would be scarred by such an incident.

 

[maddogchen]

its really awkward when the "couple" in question are actually brother and sister. LOL

 

[MrPickins]

What I assume was a small peck, I would not consider it "sexual assault" yeah, probably not the best thing to do, but I doubt anybody but a SJW would be scarred by such an incident.

Or someone who had been sexually assaulted in the past (~20-25% of women).

 

[BoberFett]

Or someone who had been sexually assaulted in the past (~20-25% of women).

Oh god, here come the phony figures again.

 

[werepossum]

Administrators, fearing allegations of sexual assault stemming from the kiss cam, have agreed to replace it with the grope cam.

+1 Fire up the struggle snuggle cam.

Lord, Americans are stupid.

 

[MrPickins]

Oh god, here come the phony figures again.

(Oh god, here comes another shit-post from BoberFett)

I didn't say 20-25%of women were raped in college, if that's what you're referring to.

I was quoting the relatively uncontested figures that that percentage of women have been sexually assaulted at one point in their lives.

 

[PokerGuy]

so is it wrong, or not?

"During the Sept. 12, game between the Orange and Wake Forest, letter writer Steve Port said he witnessed two incidences on the kiss cam in which women indicated they didn't want to be kissed. Yet, the men nearby kissed them anyway to cheers from the crowd."

If you kiss someone after they indicate they don't want you to, I'd imagine that would be considered assault. Kiss cam has nothing to do with that. You're not forced to do anything because of kiss cam. As always, SJW's and other idiots want to find something to blame instead of people being responsible for their own actions. Essentially, they are saying "peer pressure will make people do bad things".

 

[Newell Steamer]

If'n she dun wanna git kissed, then whay she at the game?

//spit

 

[PokerGuy]

I was quoting the relatively uncontested figures that that percentage of women have been sexually assaulted at one point in their lives.

Relatively uncontested? Can you provide a source for this?

 

[MrPickins]

Relatively uncontested? Can you provide a source for this?

Nearly one in five women surveyed said they had been raped or had experienced an attempted rape at some point, and one in four reported having been beaten by an intimate partner. One in six women have been stalked, according to the report.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/15/health/nearly-1-in-5-women-in-us-survey-report-sexual-assault.html

1 out of every 6 American women has been the victim of an attempted or completed rape in her lifetime (14.8% completed rape; 2.8% attempted rape).1

17.7 million American women have been victims of attempted or completed rape.

Lifetime rate of rape /attempted rape for women by race:

All women: 17.6%
White women: 17.7%
Black women: 18.8%
Asian Pacific Islander women: 6.8%
American Indian/Alaskan women: 34.1%
Mixed race women: 24.4%

https://rainn.org/get-information/statistics/sexual-assault-victims


Notice that these statistics are for rape (including attempted). I was referring to all sexual assault, the numbers for which will certainly be higher.

 

[PokerGuy]

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/15/health/nearly-1-in-5-women-in-us-survey-report-sexual-assault.html




https://rainn.org/get-information/statistics/sexual-assault-victims


Notice that these statistics are for rape (including attempted). I was referring to all sexual assault, the numbers for which will certainly be higher.

the study..... defines intimate partner and sexual violence broadly.

The Department of Justice estimated that 188,380 Americans were victims of sexual violence last year. Only 84,767 assaults defined as forcible rapes were reported in 2010, according to national statistics from the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

So the FBI reports 84k out of roughly 160 million as victims of sexual violence. That's a stark contrast to the number claimed by the survey of 1.3 million per year. I don't know much about the study referenced, but it certainly doesn't tie out to the actual crime numbers available. The survey was also done by an advocacy group, so one should be highly skeptical of it. I'd take numbers provided by rainn with a boulder of salt, they are an advocacy group with the most to gain from inflated numbers.

Regardless, I certainly wouldn't use that as the basis to say "uncontested". The actual statistics are in complete contrast to the claimed numbers, so I'd say that alone is enough to consider it contested.

 

[MrPickins]

So the FBI reports 84k out of roughly 160 million as victims of sexual violence. That's a stark contrast to the number claimed by the survey of 1.3 million per year. I don't know much about the study referenced, but it certainly doesn't tie out to the actual crime numbers available. The survey was also done by an advocacy group, so one should be highly skeptical of it. I'd take numbers provided by rainn with a boulder of salt, they are an advocacy group with the most to gain from inflated numbers.

TIL the National Institute of Justice and CDC are advocacy groups.

Regardless, I certainly wouldn't use that as the basis to say "uncontested". The actual statistics are in complete contrast to the claimed numbers, so I'd say that alone is enough to consider it contested.

You can't use statistics of reported sexual assaults to determine the absolute numbers:

Some types of rape are excluded from official reports altogether (the FBI's definition, for example, used to exclude all rapes except forcible rapes of females), because a significant number of rapes go unreported even when they are included as reportable rapes, and also because a significant number of rapes reported to the police do not advance to prosecution.[271] As well as the large number of rapes that go unreported, only 25% of reported rapes result in arrest. Many rape kits are not tested.[272] Only 16% of rapes and sexual assaults are reported to the police (Rape in America: A Report to the Nation. 1992 and United Nations Populations Fund, 2000a).[273][274] Factoring in unreported rapes, about 5% of rapists will ever spend a day in jail.[275]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics


Look, I could quibble with you about this all day, but you're missing the main point of my post, which is that there are a substantial number of people who would be "scarred" by being forcibly made to kiss someone without being "SJW's".

 

[alien42]

If you kiss someone after they indicate they don't want you to, I'd imagine that would be considered assault.

bravo for common sense.

Kiss cam has nothing to do with that. You're not forced to do anything because of kiss cam. As always, SJW's and other idiots want to find something to blame instead of people being responsible for their own actions. Essentially, they are saying "peer pressure will make people do bad things".

first of all, NO ONE said that anyone was forced to do something because of the kiss cam. as for why you feel the need to randomly insult a made up group of people like a little child is beyond me. you should try acting like an adult for once, maybe people will take you more seriously.

as for peer pressure, of course people do bad things because of peer pressure, it happens every day in this country.