Kipping: More than just for pullups now

Megatomic

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Doesn't kipping=cheating? No thanks, my pushups and pullups will be done the classic way.
 
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This just never seemed right to me. Glad to see the fitness community is coming around to see this thing as the bad joke it is.
 

momeNt

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This just never seemed right to me. Glad to see the fitness community is coming around to see this thing as the bad joke it is.
So you think the second video is most likely parody? I didn't think so until the kipping krav maga. I'm going to make a gif of that when I get home.
 

Slufa111

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Kipping is a different style of pullups. Kipping pullups is an awesome workout and I do them all the time in my Crossfit workouts! Kipping bench is retarded...
 

momeNt

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Kipping is a different style of pullups. Kipping pullups is an awesome workout and I do them all the time in my Crossfit workouts! Kipping bench is retarded...

What benefits do you get from kipping pullups vs regular form pullups?
 

RearAdmiral

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What benefits do you get from kipping pullups vs regular form pullups?

I am curious about this too. I only use my lower body while I try to do those over hand pullups where you lift yourself all the way up and then push down to lift yourself up. I don't know what these are called. I feel like I'm gaining a ton of strength by just jacking myself up without using any of my lower body.
 

JimKiler

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What benefits do you get from kipping pullups vs regular form pullups?

I am guessing it is the same as burpies, you are using more muscles. But when i saw the kipping pushup, it looked like there was no weight to lift so it really is not a push up anymore.

I had no idea the word kipping existed until 5 minutes ago.
 

Megatomic

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My understanding is that kipping "lifts" you enabling you to do more pullups. Cheating. Do them dead hang or you might as well not do them. IMHO.
 

momeNt

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I am guessing it is the same as burpies, you are using more muscles. But when i saw the kipping pushup, it looked like there was no weight to lift so it really is not a push up anymore.

I had no idea the word kipping existed until 5 minutes ago.

If you told someone to hang from a bar, and without letting go, try and injure your shoulder. They would do a kip instinctively.
 

slashbinslashbash

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AFAIK the main point of the kip is to turn pullups into an aerobic exercise instead of just a purely strength exercise. Yes, you can do more, but that's not the point.

Well, now that I think about it, I guess that being able to do more is also kind of the point. A person who can't do any real pullups, is more likely to be able to do 1 kipping pullup. Even somebody who could do 2 or 3 or maybe even 4 (?) kipping pullups might not be able to do a single dead-hang pullup. (I'm not a Crossfit person, I have never tried kipping pullups, but I have read some about it. I don't know the ratios here. I am able to do 1 (maybe 2 on a good day) dead-hang pullups now, but about 2 years ago I had worked up to being able to do 4.) But it seems that going from 4 to 5 kipping pullups is not that big a deal, but going from 0 to 1 dead-hang pullups could take weeks of training, and going from 1 to 2 can take a long time as well. Basically kipping makes it easier to increment and see progress in your workout, as well as turning it into more of an aerobic exercise with fast movement and engagement of more muscle groups.

The first video is a joke, for sure. The second video... who knows?
 

blackdogdeek

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In the CrossFit world, this is the spectrum of pullup-like movements:

banded dead hang pullup -> kipping pullup -> dead hang pullup -> weighted dead hang pullup

Though there are some workouts that prescribe dead hang or weighted pullups, most workouts will prescribe a kipping pullup. If the workout is designed for metabolic conditioning, then the focus is on continuous movement, and if the participant cannot maintain that level of output at the prescribed pullup variation then it is suggested to scale down to the next level of variation.

example:

complete 3 rounds for time (ie - as fast as possible) of: 400m run + 21 kettle bell swings 24kg + 12 kipping pullups

If the participant can complete the 12 kipping pullups without too many breaks then that is what he/she should do. If completing 12 kipping pullups requires too much rest and too many breaks then he/she should perform banded dead hang pullups. If doing so still requires too many breaks and too much rest then a thicker band should be used. Also, note that if the participant wishes to make the workout more challenging, he/she is free to substitute dead hang or weighted pullups but not at the expense of the continuous movement. Also note that the kettle bell swings may be scaled to lighter or heavier weights for similar reasons.

First video is a joke. No idea about the second video but I think they're serious which just looks plain dangerous.
 

Phanuel

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If you can't do the requisite number of dead hang pull ups, use bands.

Kipping should never be a reasonable middle ground between banded and dead hang.
 

momeNt

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is this serious in H&F?

I didn't realize that the first video had "(Funny)" in the title until after I posted the thread. I thought they were overenthusiastic kippers.

Either way i think it still remains appropriate H&F material, kipping pull-ups are a very popular exercise and there is a lot of debate about whether they are safe enough to be part of an fitness regimen.
 

Megatomic

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Kipping is to pull-ups as Prancercise is to running. I am not going to link to Prancercising here though, lol.
 

momeNt

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Kipping is to pull-ups as Prancercise is to running. I am not going to link to Prancercising here though, lol.

I love seeing the prancercise/dancercise people on the gym treadmills. I don't think I have the balls to do a spin while jogging or any of the neat moves they do. I'd probably fall and hurt something.