Kinston misleading ram descriptions

[slag]

I followed the link stickied at the top of the hot deals forum in order to buy some pc3500 ram which clearly shows on their site as CL2.

Sure, its CL2, but only up to 200 mhz! Its CL 2.5 up to 417 mhz and CL3 above that. This is not PC3500 CL2 ram as described! Its CL2 pc3200 Ram!

I am thinking about returning it and getting my money back. This really chaps my hide.

 

[Salamandar]

If this is true, then this is ugly, but I'm not going to return my RAM !!!!!

 

[Slammy1]

It's been a while since I looked up the specs, but when I did they were 2-3-3-7 at 434MHz. In fact, mine does 2-3-3-7 at 448MHz (asynchronous). Where are you getting this info? You may need to up the voltage, especially on the 865/875 chipsets. I run 2.85V on the P4P800-D. I believe mine is the BH-5 vs the newer CH-5, so things may have changed...

 

[sao123]

Read this article from toms hardware...
http://www.tomshardware.com/motherboard/20030812/ddr500-01.html

We conducted a variety of tests in which we operated DDR400 memory at ideal timings (2-2-6, CL2.0) before repeating the readings at conservative timings (3-3-6, CL2.5). While the variance is measurable, they were voided if the system-clock speed was raised only slightly. A mere 3 MHz of extra FSB speed is enough to outperform the optimized system with run-of-the-mill timings...

but goes on to basically explains that CAS 2 is meaningless on a system with greater than PC3500, because CAS 2 is no longer attainable in stable configurations. 3-4-4-8 is currently the widely accepted fasted timing for dual channel ram PC 3500 & PC 4000.

 

[slag]

Originally posted by: Slammy1
It's been a while since I looked up the specs, but when I did they were 2-3-3-7 at 434MHz. In fact, mine does 2-3-3-7 at 448MHz (asynchronous). Where are you getting this info? You may need to up the voltage, especially on the 865/875 chipsets. I run 2.85V on the P4P800-D. I believe mine is the BH-5 vs the newer CH-5, so things may have changed...

I am running on an Nforce 2 ultra 400 motherboard. at 201 mhz, the spd on the ram defaults to 2.5 and above 416, it goes to cas3 and is 3-3-3-9 if I remember correctly. Thats the kingston hyperx pc3500 ram.

 

[Slammy1]

Hmmm, I know they switched to the CH-5 chips, I didn't know what the impact was aside from some loss in overclockability. My spd runs 2.5 at 200MHz also, I have to set timings manually. I thought it was strange, but didn't pay much attention. I run dual Prime95 no problems cl2 at 280FSB on a 5:4, my systems actually quite stable. I haven't crashed at all in stress testing, and I seem to do more than most (but I don't do single P95's for 24 hours, I do more hard stresses for 4-6 hours like 2XP95 or P95+3dMark03). Quite stable, really.