Kingston memory and Crucial memory

[ScottyB_]

Does Kingston make good memory?
Does Crucial make good memory?
Is it worth buying it over generic memory with a warranty?

 

[minuteman]

Sorry for the side track of question, but is the corsair/mushkins(Mushkin High Performance Rev3 PC133 SDRAM)worth the extra money I pay for the crucial?

 

[Vegito]

Crucial which is micron which is one of the biggest memory manufactue in the world. High quality. You can't beat it... in term of warranty.. Mushkin is also great but I only got crucial..

 

[ScottyB_]

Is it worth buying the Crucial over the generic though? Also is it worth going form 256 MB to 512 MB on a 1200 Mhz AMD?

 

[Bartman]

I think he just answered your question. Do you want junk, or quality? It's just that simple. As for your question about how much ram you 1200mhz computer should have.. it dosen't matter how fast your computer is, we need to know what your doing with it that matters how much ram you need. Are you editing 30meg uncompressed files in Adobie, or rendering broadcast quality frames in 3d max, or are you playing quake 3 and srufing the web. It's really simple.. find out if your programs are using all your ram and if they are get more.


Bart

 

[ScottyB_]

I will be doing gaming, and I am going to college next fall so I will be doing projects and things for my classes(going into computer science or computer engineering), may be doing video editing down the road.

 

[PCResources]

Crucial is a company that offers stability, even when overclocking.

If you were to ask me, i deliver thousands of systems, each one personally quality checked, i will tell you that Crucial is the best of the best.

Patrick Palm

Am speaking for PC Resources

 

[MCS]

Crucial memory is of a very high quality. It is WELL worth it over generic RAM.

I would say it is not worth going over 256MB - although this is dependent on what you use your system for and also what OS you use (if its Win9x then forget it).

 

[ScottyB_]

Will I notice any difference in gaming in Win ME?

 

[LeStEr]

Go with crucial it is the best, and also they have cool advertisments !

 

[PCResources]

<< Will I notice any difference in gaming in Win ME? >>



Yup, it won't crash... not because of the memory...

Stability, isn't that what we all are aiming for, what is performance and price worth if your system hangs all of the time, even if you are just playing a game... Imagine, in quake 3, you have played for several hours and you haven't saved, then the piece of crap system hangs... Are you telling me it doesn't matter??

However, if you want more FPS, better memory is not the way to go...

Patrick Palm

Am speaking for PC Resources

 

[jamarno]

Kingston is one of the few non-chip makers that runs its memory modules through the same kind of test machine that the chip makers use, and I wouldn't hesitate to buy Kingston. And Kingston is going to start buying entire finished wafers of memory chips and package them themselves.

 

[Kingofcomputer]

minuteman, corsair and mushkin are overpriced now,
if you need to run the cpu at 150 fsb, mushkin's pc150 ram is ok to get for the extra price,
otherwise, get crucial - top quality, big brand, and cheap!!!
forget about corsair - such company who doesn't make own chips, and makes itself like a top quality big brand name - won't be cheap.

 

[PCResources]

Kingstons price comes out of nowhere, no QC, no performance gain... Stability sucks big time.

Kingston ram is the same as the cheapo ram you can buy anywhere...

If stability is important to you, go Crucial (No, i do not work for micron).

Mushkin is another great Ram supplier, and i do like their 150+ modules, almost as good as the 133 Crucial.... Nah, just kidding...

The Mushkin 150+ is state of the art, if you need the speed, go for it..

I still think that Crucial modules are the best though...

Patrick Palm

Am speaking for PC Resources

 

[ScottyB_]

But is it worth the jump form 256MB to 512MB(keeping in mind I just spent most of my savings on the computer)?

 

[ScottyB_]

I can buy it later but I wouldn't be able to brag as much also

 

[GustySoul]

Hey ScottyB,

I upgraded from 256MB -> 512MB of PC133 CL2 (Crucial) on an Athlon 1000MHz not to long ago. The primary reason I upgraded was because memory is at such a good price now and I thought it might go up in the near future.

I actually wasn't expecting much performance gains, but I was pleasantly surprised.

But, as MCS has said, it all depends on what apps you are running. I don't play games
very often so I can't comment on that, but is has helped speed up photo editing and
openGL programming for me by quite a bit. The photos I edit are usually 200+ MB though
and GL programming takes up lots of memory due to animation and texturing.


From what you said, it sounds like 256MB is just fine, unless of course you have the extra cash
to spend - memory is really a good deal right now. The things I'd think about are..

Are you running Win9x/ME or WinNT/2000? - WinNT/2000 would benefit more from the extra memory.
(Not sure about Linux or Be and such.)

How soon / How much video editing do you plan on doing? Extra memory definitely helps with
video &amp; audio editing.

If you are going into computer science - you may end up taking some graphics classes developing
ray-tracers and stuff - extra mem helps for that kind of stuff.

And most importantly - Don't plan too far into the future... you'll probably upgrade in a year or so
(if that long) right? By then they may have PC 800,000 DDR SDRAM selling for 0.05 cents a MB?

Hope that helps a little
obispo21

 

[Eug]

Interestingly, for my laptop, it was a lot cheaper to buy Crucial stuff online than anything else.

 

[GustySoul]

Yes I definitely agree. I am considering purchasing a laptop and both Dell &amp; Gateway want
about $1400 for 512MB, while at Crucial you can get 512MB for about $600!

obispo21

 

[Taz4158]

<< Kingston ram is the same as the cheapo ram you can buy anywhere... >>



Uh, you're quite wrong with that statement.

 

[PCResources]

<< Uh, you're quite wrong with that statement. >>



Remember, i test modules every day, and i see where they come from, kingston produces cheapo ram, and they sell their own ram....

Tell me why i'm wrong please.

Patrick Palm

Am speaking for PC Resources

 

[Taz4158]

Well I can tell you I'm a network engineer responsible for an exceedingly large network and Kingston is speced for all our servers and is exceptionally stable and reliable as opposed to &quot;generic&quot; ram which noone in their right mind would put in a server. Now if you're a clone jockey only experienced with Kingston value ram then you're forgiven, if not then I'm afraid your opinion is WAY off the map here. As a matter of fact id using a Compaq server Kingston is the ONLY alternative accepted by any of the larger firms for Ram. I'm talking networks with thousands of people on them depending on it for their living.

 

[pdo]

<<Remember, i test modules every day, and i see where they come from, kingston produces cheapo ram, and they sell their own ram>>

I believe you're quite wrong. They RAM often has Infineon chips on it. And we all know the quality of Infineon. How do you determine that that RAM are cheapo? I have used everything from Mushkin, Crucial, and now Kingston and have no problems. Kingston may not be the best but it's far from generic.

 

[Taz4158]

The guy's just way off base here, not sure how he could be quite so wrong but he did it.

 

[PCResources]

<< Well I can tell you I'm a network engineer responsible for an exceedingly large network and Kingston is speced for all our servers and is exceptionally stable and reliable as opposed to &quot;generic&quot; ram which noone in their right mind would putr in a server. Now if you're a clone jockey only experienced with Kingston value ram then you're forgiven, if not then I'm afraid your opinion is WAY off the map here. >>



Well, i build the machines, i design the network and i setup the network... so what does that make me...

AND i analyze HW every day, not ONE memory module goes through without being checked and tested, and i can tell you that your opionion about &quot;generic ram&quot; is WAY off. Kingston RAM is sold by brand name and by generic sources, it IS the same, the same ram and the same QC.

You work with networks, i work with hardware, let me do my thing and i will let you do yours...

As a network engineer you are not qualified to determine the quality of a ram module, as an EE i am. And i tell you, Kingston ram is NOT as good as Crucial or Mushkin.

I bet that if i ask you if it would be a good idea to use anything else than Intel CPU's in your network, you would say no, no wouldn't you??

And if i were to ask you if the generic ram that you have used gave you any problems, you couldn't answer that question, now could you, you never used it, did you?? Well until you have something worthwhile to add to this thread like &quot;i have now tested generic ram, and found that the kingston ram was more stable&quot; maybe you should just not argue.

Patrick Palm

Am speaking for PC Resources