Kindle Fire, Amazon 1 star reviews

[zerocool84]

This comment reminds me of people who buy the crap they sell at Ikea and then bitch when it breaks.

Yes because Amazon is known for selling crap products

The Kindle line is soooooooo horrible.

 

[Zaap]

I don't understand this. It is an ad. You imply that. It merely states the specs and makes a comparison between the two. What is incorrect about the specs? Take note of how many times they use the term "value." When I see value in an ad, I typically take it to mean "compromise." I knew from the beginning that you will be giving something up with the Fire. How could you not, it costs $200. If you don't understand that going in, you will be taken by any ads because you are a fool.

I was merely responding to the idea that the Fire was never advertised as an answer to the iPad2. That's just one example. Amazon's toned it down quite a bit lately, but I recall the first Kindle Fire ads were blatantly insinuating taking on the iPad2.

Point is simply- they now really can't have their cake and eat it too any time they come up short in comparison to the iPad2. They made that bed.

Personally, I know the Fire is a great deal, and I don't really care how it compares to something that costs $500.

 

[Zaap]

Something like 99%(I may be exaggerating here but this is what I feel like whenever I read Newegg reviews) of customer reviews on Newegg are usually attributable to "user" error.

I'm hoping you mean 99% of ill-informed one star reviews? I find that serious reviewers on newegg generally know what they're talking about. And dumbass reviews usually are easily spotted by the number of non-helpful votes.

It's a good idea to ignore the type that reflexively hit the one star rating on any customer review site.

 

[Bateluer]

User reviews are pretty much always 5 stars or 1 star.

This. There's never anything inbetween. 5 star reviews overlook glaring faults entirely, 1 star reviews have a single issue that breaks the experience.

 

[lothar]

I'm hoping you mean 99% of ill-informed one star reviews? I find that serious reviewers on newegg generally know what they're talking about. And dumbass reviews usually are easily spotted by the number of non-helpful votes.

It's a good idea to ignore the type that reflexively hit the one star rating on any customer review site.

Yes.

 

[MagickMan]

For $200 it's damn impressive.

Not compared to getting an Iconia for $211 or an Ideapad A1 for the same two c-notes. There are a lot of good deals out there right now, and a $200 Fire isn't one of them.

 

[thescreensavers]

If I really push my thunderbolt it can get unexpectedly hot, but still not to the point of it really being uncomfortable.

Yea, when I used my blackberry storm at some points I had it up to 48c but I could still hold it. My Dx gets hot too but not as hot as the storm. So its really confuses me when people say that "It was uncomfortable to hold"

 

[Oyeve]

Yea, when I used my blackberry storm at some points I had it up to 48c but I could still hold it. My Dx gets hot too but not as hot as the storm. So its really confuses me when people say that "It was uncomfortable to hold"

Well, it is called kindle fire. Fire is hot.

 

[jaydee]

LOL @Amazon.

"Almost an iPad2 for 40% of the cost!"
"Well what did you expect, it's only $200!"

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

LOL @Amazon.

"Almost an iPad2 for 40% of the cost!"
"Well what did you expect, it's only $200!"

Almost is a key word in that.

 

[Oyeve]

I dont understand the negative reviewers making eink comparisons. Did they not know?

 

[deathBOB]

I dont understand the negative reviewers making eink comparisons. Did they not know?

Reading the reviews, it seems to me that many of the reviewers suffer from moderate to severe stupidity. How unfortunate.

 

[shortylickens]

I dont understand the negative reviewers making eink comparisons. Did they not know?

To be fair, they called it a Kindle, so, I guess I can understand the dismay. It actually is an inferior book reader. The pinch-zoom almost always throws things out of whack, it gets hot, has considerably shorter life between charges, is heavier and not easy to grip thanks to those sexy square corners. For Android lovers who plan to root and tinker this is not only a bargain, but a great mid size platform between the phone and a full tablet or notebook.
For the average person this is an inferior Android experience and not quite right for pure book reading.

 

[JD50]

LOL @Amazon.

"Almost an iPad2 for 40% of the cost!"
"Well what did you expect, it's only $200!"

I'm not sure what you find wrong with those two statements.

 

[darkewaffle]

I think comparing it to the iPad is simply to give consumers a meaningful point of reference. In the tablet arena currently there's nothing as ubiquitous as the iPad, it's what people who think of a tablet sort of 'default to'.

 

[Red Storm]

I don't quite understand the purpose of this thread. Every tech device out there has its share of "1 star review syndrome" where (usually) ignorant people don't know what they're talking about, what makes it so special about the Fire that it warrants mentioning?

If there were no 1 star reviews for the Fire on Amazon, then we'd have something to discuss (shady review moderating, product being that good, etc.).

 

[poofyhairguy]

The only way the Fire would have had no 1 star reviews would be if it WAS a $200 iPad.




No wait, scratch that. Someone would bitch about iTunes.

 

[Oyeve]

The only way the Fire would have had no 1 star reviews would be if it WAS a $200 iPad.




No wait, scratch that. Someone would bitch about iTunes.

I lol'ed

 

[shortylickens]

Not compared to getting an Iconia for $211 or an Ideapad A1 for the same two c-notes. There are a lot of good deals out there right now, and a $200 Fire isn't one of them.

http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-Ideapad.../dp/B005UBT7LW

Link to the thing you bought for two hundred dollars?

 

[MagickMan]

http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-Ideapad.../dp/B005UBT7LW

Link to the thing you bought for two hundred dollars?

I'm not doing your homework. There are 7" tablets all over the net for $200 or less, find them yourself. The Fire isn't a great deal at $200, it's mediocre at best.

 

[shortylickens]

I'm not doing your homework. There are 7" tablets all over the net for $200 or less, find them yourself. The Fire isn't a great deal at $200, it's mediocre at best.

What do you mean MY homework? YOUR the one who freakin claimed it could be easily found for 200. Searched all night and the best I could find was 213 not including shipping, which totaled 230.
Where do you find it under 200?

 

[MagickMan]

What do you mean MY homework? YOUR the one who freakin claimed it could be easily found for 200. Searched all night and the best I could find was 213 not including shipping, which totaled 230.
Where do you find it under 200?

You're not "YOUR", FYI.

"Do" or "did"? The Lenovo site had it for $199 a few weeks ago, ran it for that price for over a month, now it's $229. At $230 it's still a better deal than the Fire, as is the NT for $250. Personally though, I'd go with the Amazon Iconia deal, current 7" tablets suck. The res isn't good for browsing, LCDs are poor for reading, and the battery life is mediocre. What the hell are they good for? Answer? Not much, except as a cheap gadget for Angry Birds

After fiddling with the Fire for a couple hours I'm convinced that the Amazon software people are sadists. It's marketed as a media consumption device and book reader... but it's shit for consumption because it's poor with magazines and web use. The battery isn't good for long sessions of book reading, and compared to e-ink, an LCD is crap for doing that anyway. Of course, there's watching video on Amazon Prime in your house, which isn't bad, really. However, I'd rather just turn on my TV, which does that a lot better than a 7" tablet running at 480p.

Again, what's the point? It seems "the point" is that Amazon has latched on to the tablet fad, and that the Fire is a new toy destined for junk drawers all over the country in 6 months. The tablet most people will actually want is the 10" Fire Amazon is selling in 2012 for ~$250.

Like Anand said, wait for Round 2.

 

[Deeko]

The form factor issue is really just a matter of personal preference. Sure, a 10" tablet gives you more screen real estate for browsing and is closer to a magazine's actual size - but when is the last time you slipped a 10" tablet into your coat pocket to take with you?

A 10" tablet is a better "couch surfer", a 7" tablet is a better portable device. Personally - I don't use my tablet at home, I use it on the go, so the smaller form factor is better for me.

 

[MagickMan]

The form factor issue is really just a matter of personal preference. Sure, a 10" tablet gives you more screen real estate for browsing and is closer to a magazine's actual size - but when is the last time you slipped a 10" tablet into your coat pocket to take with you?

A 10" tablet is a better "couch surfer", a 7" tablet is a better portable device. Personally - I don't use my tablet at home, I use it on the go, so the smaller form factor is better for me.

You might have a point, if the Fire had 3G. There aren't that many places I know of that have open and free WiFi anymore. A 7" tablet may be a better portable device compared to a 10"er, but so is a smart phone. And a phone is even better than a small tab in that area.

 

[Deeko]

You might have a point, if the Fire had 3G. There aren't that many places I know of that have open and free WiFi anymore. A 7" tablet may be a better portable device compared to a 10"er, but so is a smart phone. And a phone is even better than a small tab in that area.

Conversely, I'm finding WiFi in more and more places. There is WiFi at my home, at my office, on the busses, at the airports (free a lot more often than it used to be), and in just about every coffee shop, fast place, or similar establishment. Even Home Depot has free WiFi now.

On top of that, tethering is becoming much more common. You can get tethering on all of the major platforms now (well, RIM if you are using the leaked BB OS 7.1, but that won't be too far from official). I know people bristle at the thought of paying for tethering, but if you pay $25 for 2GB from AT&T, and then pay $20 more for an additional 2GB + tethering...well, that's kinda the same as paying $20 for a 3G connection on your tablet, except its more vesatile.

Not to mention the fact that a tablet isn't completely useless without internet anyway - you can still read a Kindle book or play Angry Birds without active data.