kill one, or five?

zixxer

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You are driving a train and a technical error occurs. Unable to stop the tram, you can either continue on your current track, which would cause the deaths of five workmen, whose pneumatic drills are too loud to allow them to hear you, or turn onto a side track, killing one workman working under the same conditions.


What would you do?



 

zixxer

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Okay.. now how about now you are a doctor with five ER patients all of whom will die in an hour without organ transplants. by chance, a man, whom has no friends or family, walks into the office. this man has all the organs needed to save the 5 dying men.

Would you drug and kill him, then use his organs in the 5 dying men?

Why?
 

KLin

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Originally posted by: armatron
Okay.. now how about now you are a doctor with five ER patients all of whom will die in an hour without organ transplants. by chance, a man, whom has no friends or family, walks into the office. this man has all the organs needed to save the 5 dying men.

Would you drug and kill him, then use his organs in the 5 dying men?

Why?

No. Because that's murder.
 

DrPizza

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The answer to your "profound" question is in the title
- in the first case, you're controlling who gets killed.
In the second case, no one is being "killed."
 

IronWing

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Originally posted by: armatron
You are driving a train and a technical error occurs. Unable to stop the tram, you can either continue on your current track, which would cause the deaths of five workmen, whose pneumatic drills are too loud to allow them to hear you, or turn onto a side track, killing one workman working under the same conditions.

What would you do?

Hit the five. No jail time that way. You'll feel bad and get sued either way, but only by intentionally switching tracks do you commit murder.
 

shilala

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1.) I'd jump. They're not pinning that shyt on me.
2.) I'm too lazy and stupid to be a doctor. It mostly depends on how much the guy has in his wallet.
 

Perknose

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Or . . . you are a train engineer posing as a Doctor in an ER. You even have the key to the medecine dispensary. Five pneumatic drill opreators whose particular work conditions have caused them to suffer from premature impotence have pushed their way in and are all demanding large quantities of Viagra from you while meancing you with their drills.

Do you . . . kill one by stabbing him in the heart with a hypodermic needle full of fatally sub-standard Nigerian acne medicine as a warning to the other four or . . . do you search out and slay the OP and be done with all this nonsense.
 

cKGunslinger

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Originally posted by: Perknose
Or . . . you are a train engineer posing as a Doctor in an ER. You even have the key to the medecine dispensary. Five pneumatic drill opreators whose particular work conditions have caused them to suffer from premature impotence have pushed their way in and are all demanding large quantities of Viagra from you while meancing you with their drills.

Do you . . . kill one by stabbing him in the heart with a hypodermic needle full of fatally sub-standard Nigerian acne medicine as a warning to the other four or . . . do you search out and slay the OP and be done with all this nonsense.
Answer: Quit and move to Vegas to live out your dreams of being a transvestite in an off-strip production involving a midget and 3 horses.
 

thelanx

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Haha these two were the exact examples used in my moral reasoning class this semester.
 

IronWing

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Originally posted by: Perknose
Or . . . you are a train engineer posing as a Doctor in an ER. You even have the key to the medecine dispensary. Five pneumatic drill opreators whose particular work conditions have caused them to suffer from premature impotence have pushed their way in and are all demanding large quantities of Viagra from you while meancing you with their drills.

Do you . . . kill one by stabbing him in the heart with a hypodermic needle full of fatally sub-standard Nigerian acne medicine as a warning to the other four or . . . do you search out and slay the OP and be done with all this nonsense.

That was pretty good.
 

BigJ

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In the first case scenario, I'd hit the 5, back up, and hit the 1 so there are no witnesses. Then I'd drive the train off the cliff, watching as I parachute into the canyon below.

In the second scenario, I'd kill all 6 and sell their organs on the black market.
 

JohnCU

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Originally posted by: ironwing
Originally posted by: Perknose
Or . . . you are a train engineer posing as a Doctor in an ER. You even have the key to the medecine dispensary. Five pneumatic drill opreators whose particular work conditions have caused them to suffer from premature impotence have pushed their way in and are all demanding large quantities of Viagra from you while meancing you with their drills.

Do you . . . kill one by stabbing him in the heart with a hypodermic needle full of fatally sub-standard Nigerian acne medicine as a warning to the other four or . . . do you search out and slay the OP and be done with all this nonsense.

That was pretty good.

 

jimbob200521

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would the 5 emergency room patients in the second question happen to be the same five i just hit in the first scenario?
 

DrPizza

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Heyyyyyy,
In the second question,
Since the body parts of the 6th person would be able to save the other five,
it stands to reason that there aren't 4 people needing a heart transplant.

Thus, the solution is simple:
Wait until one of the 5 dies, then use his organs to save the other 4. Duh, it was that simple.
 

Gamer X

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Originally posted by: armatron
You are driving a train and a technical error occurs. Unable to stop the tram, you can either continue on your current track, which would cause the deaths of five workmen, whose pneumatic drills are too loud to allow them to hear you, or turn onto a side track, killing one workman working under the same conditions.


What would you do?

I'd kill you for putting me into this dilemma:)