Kids booted from the (swim) club and told not to return

[her209]

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Creative Steps Day Camp paid The Valley Swim Club more than $1900 for one day of swimming a week, but after the first day, the money was quickly refunded and the campers were told not to return.

the club's president John Duesler issued a statement Tuesday saying "There was concern that a lot of kids would change the complexion ? and the atmosphere of the club."

Let's say the reason was because it was overcrowded. I don't understand why the club felt the need to tell them not to return. Second, what does the President mean by "change the complexion and the atmosphere of the club" if it was due to overcrowding?

 

[OCGuy]

I dont know, but the guy is a big Obama supporter.

 

[fskimospy]

So how long should everyone who posted against the 'racism' in the firefighters thread have to come here and condemn this before they are labeled hypocrites? 15 minutes sound good?

 

[dali71]

Originally posted by: OCguy
I dont know, but the guy is a big Obama supporter.

Wait, I'm confused, I thought only Republicans were racist?

I can't wait to see how this gets spun (or buried).

 

[sandorski]

Hmm, doesn't sound good.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: dali71

Originally posted by: OCguy
I dont know, but the guy is a big Obama supporter.

Wait, I'm confused, I thought only Republicans were racist?

I can't wait to see how this gets spun (or buried).

You're assuming that what OC posted is accurate.

 

[dali71]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: dali71

Originally posted by: OCguy
I dont know, but the guy is a big Obama supporter.

Wait, I'm confused, I thought only Republicans were racist?

I can't wait to see how this gets spun (or buried).

You're assuming that what OC posted is accurate.

I actually did a bit of research before I posted, and it appears to be accurate.

http://www.opositiveprogram.org/our_group.html - Dr. John G. Duesler, Jr. is listed as a team co-leader

http://my.barackobama.com/page...p/JenkintownPAforObama - listed here as the first contact for the O Positive Blood Drive

http://my.barackobama.com/page...t/kathleenmaher/gGxKNf - listed as a project manager for it here

Just to be sure that there wasn't another John Duesler, I did some more research. The swim club scrubbed their website, so no luck there. I did find this 2007 interview with Dr. John G. Duesler, Jr.: http://zonedriven.com/05/14/zo...h-dr-john-g-duesler-jr In the 3rd paragraph, he states, "I sit on no less than seven Boards right now¦our regional disc golf club, with our community athletics association and swim club, peace and environmental activism, and others."

I also found his Twitter account, with this post: https://twitter.com/chocolate_squad/status/1032721901

"Off to a great start Monday. Recruiting new members for our community swim club, finishing my Xocai Web site, and getting an oil change."

 

[sandorski]

Good find. Not sure if he's a racist, probably had to do it to please longstanding Club members, but his choice of words and the fact that he went through with it are /Facepalmtastic.

 

[Ichigo]

Originally posted by: sandorski
Good find. Not sure if he's a racist, probably had to do it to please longstanding Club members, but his choice of words and the fact that he went through with it are /Facepalmtastic.

So he's not racist. He just supports them?

 

[SecPro]

The CNN story on this yesterday said that two other similar organizations had also been refunded their money and had been asked not to return. Neither of them had any minority members.

CNN

 

[soccerballtux]

Most likely they were poorly behaved.

 

[CitizenKain]

Originally posted by: soccerballtux
Most likely they were poorly behaved.

Its cute seeing someone so naive. Life must be full of wonder and surprises if you can hold a view like that.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: soccerballtux
Most likely they were poorly behaved.

40+ years ago, I saw this situation outside of Boston.

Many inner city kids were sent out to camps in the rural areas and their behaivor was outrageous. Many did not appreciate the effort that was made by the hosts and local community to offer them a week away from their areas. Others seemed to look down at the "local hicks" and "Uncle Toms" (the colored families that lived in the town that also volunterred to assist).

Granted that most were from within the Roxbury, Jamaca Park ghettos; but the attitude that they showed to the locals was out of line.

You may have the situation that the majority of trouble makers are minorities and are misbehaving (not follow proper social graces).
If a child is told to stop running or pushing and they keep doing it; when kicked out due to the fact that they do not fit it, is it color vs behaivor?

Or is their behaivor due to their upbringing, which is mainly due to their color?

Either could be argued.

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: dali71

Originally posted by: OCguy
I dont know, but the guy is a big Obama supporter.

Wait, I'm confused, I thought only Republicans were racist?

I can't wait to see how this gets spun (or buried).

Why? WTF does Obama have to do with this? Spin indeed sir and let us know when you stop. :roll: at both of you.

 

[BarrySotero]

From what I read the club knew they were renting to minority kids. Members got tight because they joined a private club that was essentially turning public by renting out to large groups. I suspect when person says the group altered "complexion" of club they meant to say the group changed the character of the club (private vs public etc). Tempest in a teapot here.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: CitizenKain

Originally posted by: soccerballtux
Most likely they were poorly behaved.

Its cute seeing someone so naive. Life must be full of wonder and surprises if you can hold a view like that.

Maybe he's just not being stupid. Two other groups were kicked out who weren't minorities.

Is life so plain and easy for you that if it involves minorities it must be racism although its happened- twice- to non blacks?

Most likely they were being little terrors and got booted. Maybe you are proposing that blacks should be held to a lower standard of behavior? Racist!

 

[soccerballtux]

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider

Originally posted by: CitizenKain

Originally posted by: soccerballtux
Most likely they were poorly behaved.

Its cute seeing someone so naive. Life must be full of wonder and surprises if you can hold a view like that.

Maybe he's just not being stupid. Two other groups were kicked out who weren't minorities.

Is life so plain and easy for you that if it involves minorities it must be racism although its happened- twice- to non blacks?

Most likely they were being little terrors and got booted. Maybe you are proposing that blacks should be held to a lower standard of behavior? Racist!

I'm just speaking from experience Citizen. Calling experience racism is (liberalism).

In my experience, Mexican children are very well behaved-- their mothers are very, very strict. It made tutoring them in reading a breeze-- I absolutely loved it. They were thankful to have the help and enjoyed having someone older to hang out with.

 

[NaughtyGeek]

I live in the area and know what the fees are for these clubs. If I was a paying member and a group of 60 children of any race, religion, background started showing up, I'd be asking serious questions of the board members. Understand, the members of these clubs are the owners and they elect board members to oversee operations. Someone made a big mistake granting memberships to groups in this fashion and it sounds like said individual had to backtrack that decision due to member outrage. Of course, because there were minorities involved it really must be a racial issue. It is certainly being portrayed that way, it wouldn't be news otherwise. Gotta keep them peoples on there sofas riled up about the injustices going on in the world otherwise they may see where the true problems lie.

 

[spittledip]

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider

Originally posted by: CitizenKain

Originally posted by: soccerballtux
Most likely they were poorly behaved.

Its cute seeing someone so naive. Life must be full of wonder and surprises if you can hold a view like that.

Maybe he's just not being stupid. Two other groups were kicked out who weren't minorities.

Is life so plain and easy for you that if it involves minorities it must be racism although its happened- twice- to non blacks?

Most likely they were being little terrors and got booted. Maybe you are proposing that blacks should be held to a lower standard of behavior? Racist!

Good call

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: soccerballtux
Most likely they were poorly behaved.

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Most likely they were being little terrors and got booted. Maybe you are proposing that blacks should be held to a lower standard of behavior? Racist!

Nothing in any of the articles I have read indicated the kids were acting out so I don't know where you are getting this information from.

 

[her209]

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Twelve days before the Creative Steps campers were shown the door, Wright said The Valley Club hosted four sixth-grade classes from Rydal East Elementary School in Abington. Only two of the nearly 80 kids were minorities. One of them was Wright's 11-year-old son, Marcus.

 

[CitizenKain]

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider

Originally posted by: CitizenKain

Originally posted by: soccerballtux
Most likely they were poorly behaved.

Its cute seeing someone so naive. Life must be full of wonder and surprises if you can hold a view like that.

Maybe he's just not being stupid. Two other groups were kicked out who weren't minorities.

Is life so plain and easy for you that if it involves minorities it must be racism although its happened- twice- to non blacks?

Most likely they were being little terrors and got booted. Maybe you are proposing that blacks should be held to a lower standard of behavior? Racist!

You think that would have been the first thing they guy would have mentioned when explaining why all these kids couldn't swim in his pool. Instead he mentioned he didn't like the complexion change from having a bunch of black kids in the pool.

 

[mshan]

"I worked here for about a month and I really liked the people and the place was always clean and organized, but I can tell you that the surrounding community is generally racist. The management of the club was surely under pressure from the majority of their customers, and no, I'm not excusing them at all. This is not uncommon is this particular community... you will find the same thing in local bars and stores. African Americans followed, neglected or otherwise harassed until they leave). I wish I could give them a higher rating, but there's no excuse for racism in these supposedly enlightened times."

Comment from google maps link that was previously linked.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: Ichigo

Originally posted by: sandorski
Good find. Not sure if he's a racist, probably had to do it to please longstanding Club members, but his choice of words and the fact that he went through with it are /Facepalmtastic.

So he's not racist. He just supports them?

...or just wants to keep his job. More like an Enabler than a Supporter. Since you/me Posted more info has been added to the situation, so it's possible that Racism has nothing to do with it.